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To All KY Landowners please read
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Kathy    Posted 02-19-2003 at 10:48:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I hope this is allowed, if not please have the moderator delete it.

I became aware of a bill now in the House judiciary committee( HB96) to change the law regarding hunting dogs & tresspassing when retrieving them.
Please contact your representatives and voice your opinions either way.
I spoke to our local sheriff and our insurance company. IF
this Bill passes then you wouldn't be able to limit who could come onto your property if they were retrieving hunting dogs-day or night and also as the landowner you would still be liable for any injuries the 'legal tresspassers' suffered while retrieving their dogs and you'd be open to lawsuits they brought. Even if they lose you're out the time and money to defend your right to limit access on your own land.
I'm opposed but each person should read it and make up their own minds.
Here's the Bill, the Hotline 800# and the website.
HB96
SECTION 1. A NEW SECTION OF KRS CHAPTER 150 IS CREATED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:
This section shall apply only to hunters engaged in hunts which customarily employ the assistance of dogs. For the purposes of this section, "prohibited lands" means any privately-owned property for which the hunter has not received permission to enter. When the chase begins on other lands, hunters may enter prohibited lands solely for the purpose of retrieving their dogs. Hunters retrieving dogs shall not carry firearms or bows on their persons or hunt any game. The use of vehicles to retrieve dogs shall be allowed only with the permission of the landowner

KY Legislative Hotline: 1-800-372-7181

KY Legislative Website: www.lrc.state.ky.us


Redneck    Posted 02-20-2003 at 02:34:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Folks had better stand up for their rights before these bushwhackers take them all away.Politicians have and always will be a bad joke!


Donnie    Posted 02-19-2003 at 22:54:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How do you suppose to owner will get the dog if he don't go get it? Most places the dog's owner has to be escorted by a deputy sheriff to retrieve a hound that has wandered or hunted onto private property.


Kathy    Posted 02-20-2003 at 07:21:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Donnie, it's not getting the dog that's the real problem, it's the fact that the landowner will lose any say as to when & where the dog owner goes as long as they are 'looking' for their dogs.
I have no problem with someone getting their dog off my property(even though a well trained dog should come when called) but I feel that the property owner should give permission instead of having no say in who,when or where a hunter goes.
What about injuries and theft? Without any say in who can come on my property I have no way of stopping people from going into open barns, through my gardens or in the machine shed where they can get hurt then sue me.
Just some things to think about. My dad taught me that the reason hunters get a bad reputation is because some act like they own everyone's property which makes it bad for the good,respectful hunters. It's not that hard to ask for permission and who knows you may make a friend in the deal.:)


Redneck    Posted 02-22-2003 at 11:19:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like she said!


Salmoneye...Um...    Posted 02-19-2003 at 13:25:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Um...

As far as I can find on the internet, HB96 affects, Section 1. KRS 164A.709 and pertains to:

"AN ACT relating to prepaid postsecondary tuition contracts or accounts"

If you could please verify that the bill is HB 96 and give us a link, I would be greatly interested in reading about this...


Kathy    Posted 02-19-2003 at 16:33:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey SalmonEye, I finally found the actual link, the KY legislative website isn't exactly user friendly. LOL!!
Here it is, the bill in in the Judiciary so that's why it wasn't listed in the regular session.
Hope this works,Kathy
http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/03rs/HB96.htm


Salmoneye    Posted 02-20-2003 at 03:41:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dunno what to tell you now that I have read the actual bill...

Of course...so far it is only a Bill...If you feel that strongly against it, you have every right to organize a coalition against it...Write and call every state rep and senator you can get ahold of...Tell all your friends to do the same...

They work for you...Sorta...

;-)


screaminghollow    Posted 02-19-2003 at 12:25:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Most states have a law limiting liability to those engaged in recreational pursuits, such as hunters.
Old English common law, provide an exemption from the trespassing laws for those hunting badgers and foxes because ridding the countryside of such vermin was good for society. IE the hounds and pack of wealthy horsemen could tramp all they wanted through your fields. Fortunately, modern trespassing laws have pretty much gotten rid of that old exception.
I'd right your state representatives and voice an objection. Odd but up here in Pa, if if a dog is seen running in the woods outside of small game season, it usually ends up dead.
Here in PA, folks have a right to enter your property even if posted for such purposes as they believe you would consent to. Such as retrieving wounded game, putting out a fire etc. Such a loop hole leave a large gap for trepassers. But we have a law limiting the liability to trespassers who enter for recreational purposes such a hunting, hiking, etc. Your still liable if you set a trap for them or intend to injure them, but for instance if you know of an open mine shaft, once you are aware the trespasser is there, you have a duty to warn them. A big bunch of crap.


Jimbob    Posted 02-19-2003 at 12:01:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Time to add wire & an electric fence charger! Post a sign telling the hunters to look for the 'wet spots' where the dog contacted the fence.
(Boy, I got a 'wild hair' going on today. Hey, I have not seen sunshine for a few weeks).


Farmer wantabe    Posted 02-19-2003 at 11:15:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Looks like Kentucky is trying join the socialist movement too, wish you luck in your fight to preserve the rights of property owners. We used to have a lot of trouble with racoon hunters and dogs. Seems the darn dogs allways ended up over on our place and treeing coons. "had to shoot the coon 'cause the dog treed it" was always the excuse. Well don't you know when dad finally tired of the situation and shot one of the dogs the hunters got all haired up. Said it wasn't the dogs fault. Dad said "I know that it wern't the poor dogs fault but it aint legal to shoot you". Funny thing was the dogs suddenly got smarter after that and quit treeing coons on our side of the fence, hmmmmm. That was 30 years ago and different times, probably go on trial for animal cruelty now. Heck of it was that dad would give people permission to hunt, IF they asked before they trespassed.


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