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Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:04:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
CINCINNATI (AP) - A Crest toothpaste ad during the Grammy Awards on Sunday night will be in Spanish, the first by Procter & Gamble Co. in a prime time, general-interest national broadcast.
The ad for Crest Whitening Plus Scope features a young Hispanic couple but will have an English tag line.

Hispanics are the largest and fastest-growing minority group in the nation, and the ad is a continuation of P&G's efforts to reach a Spanish-speaking audience.

WHAT!!??
If Proctor and Gamble is under the impression that America is a country who speaks spanish as a first language then they are sadly mistaken. I have no problem with spanish/eastern/german/etc immigrants but this is America and Americans speak english. It concerns me that this will become a trend. Why should natives of their own country have to read subtitles to understand what they are seeing on their television screens? It is just me or is this wrong? Is it wrong to expect immigrants to learn the language of the country they have chosen to call new 'home'? As it is, half the time when I get correspondence home from school it is mistakenly sent in spanish.


donna    Posted 02-24-2003 at 16:33:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
your not overreacting but if we do nothing they think we don't mind. as for me i'll hop of this great chat just long enough to email crest and give them an earful or maybe i should give them a mouthful.maybe if enough people blasted them and told them we're switching brands they get the hint. nothing destroys a pearly white executive smile than a plunge in corporate profit


Donnie    Posted 02-25-2003 at 01:34:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
No you are not over reacting.


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:27:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Randy    Posted 02-24-2003 at 16:42:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
They are a business and out to make money. They do demographic studies on this. If you owned stock in the company and they told you we can make money for you if we do a commercial this way would you say no? Don't take it so personal it's business. And you also have the right to support the competition. Nice this America, we have choices!


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:31:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



donna in wv    Posted 02-24-2003 at 17:33:04       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i agree we all have a choice and i also believe that if we never voice our complaints when we feel something is wrong or just unfair then we get exactly what we deserve


Farmwench    Posted 02-24-2003 at 11:32:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes, Cindi, you are overreacting. You've got your drawers in a knot over one commercial that would require you to read a few lines at the bottom of the screen to follow the gist. This is not a big sacrifice for an English speaking person to make, either in this country or abroad. If it bothers you, don't watch the commercial. You say you don't watch much T.V., so it will hardly impact your life in any significant way. If you are morally offended, don't buy the advertized product.
I enjoy seeing small signs like this that indicate a tiny bit of cultural diversity creeping into everyday American life. But then, I'm one of those liberals so many contributors to this board are so afraid of.
Here's a little different perspective: Texas (and California, and New Mexico, and Arizona, and Colorado, etc.) was Mexican territory and Spanish was the official language for hundreds of years before it (ahem) became independent from Mexico. If folks in Texas don't want to learn/understand/know how to speak Spanish, maybe they didn't chose wisely, when choosing to live in a state with such a rich Spanish history.
I really enjoy your stories of family and farm mishaps, misadventures, and excitement. I just don't see eye to eye with you on the immigrant bashing issues.


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:20:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Cindi    Posted 02-24-2003 at 11:50:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's okay. I don't expect everybody to agree with me and I remember you farmwench. How ya been? Anyway it's not the ad, it's the big picture. What happens when Kimberley-Clark and J M Smucker and AT&T and GOD FORBID Coke and Pepsi, decide they are being left out. It's gonna be a far cry from one commercial. Check with me next year and PLEASE tell me I was wrong. You can't have kids in school in the US without being constantly bombarded with culture. As far as Texas and New Mexico go, I get it. But what about Florida? Read on, there's lots of folks from all over the country having probelms with language barriers. When you have to do business with the public you should speak the native language of the country you live in. I have met doctors for Christ sakes who can't pronounce names of patients or their meds. "Teek wan tahm dee" That's 'take one time a day' for those of us who have learned to translate. It's out of hand, girl, that's all, If this doesn't become a trend within six months, then I'll kiss your...well, I'll make a public apolgy on this forum and say....I over reacted. have a good one...good to hear from you again.


Ludwig    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:03:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Florida was also Spanish, a good chunk of California was too.
Lousiana territory was French and that includes a good 1/4 of our country. We got Alaska from the Russians and almost nobody speaks Hawiain(sp).


Yah but...    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:58:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
I Live near the largest concentration of French speaking people on the continent...But I am still getting instructions for everything from lawn mowers to pizza sauce in spanish...

This makes sense how again?

Salmoneye


Maggie/TX    Posted 02-23-2003 at 21:00:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi, I don't think you are overreacting at all. I like your style, you're a born activist. This is America and the language here is English. Immigrants should be prepared to learn the language in order to get along or go back where they came from. And when we see something that strikes us as very wrong that is going on here, we have to have the intestinal fortitude to stand up and say, "That's enough of that stuff!" Right on, Cindi! :)


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:52:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Cindi    Posted 02-24-2003 at 04:50:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maggie...thanks..I could say the same for you.


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:55:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Sid    Posted 02-23-2003 at 20:05:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree I worked with a man from Mexico he was a good worker He knew very little English . He was here legally and was working for his citizenship his wife also. He and his wife got terribly upset with the publice school where they lived because the school wanted to use spanish speaking teachers to teach their kids. His wife said if we want them to be taught we will go to Mexico


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 12:58:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Pitch    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:49:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
In the Netherland they make all prospective citizens learn the language and culture before they take the oath. Would be nice if they would do it here. This language stuff hits me kind of personally. My family has been on this continent since 1634 however I married a girl whose family emigrated here from Poland in 1952 in fact my wife is the first one in her family to be a natural citizen. Anyway the family moved into a Polish enclave in a small north eastern city and her mother and father could barely be understood up until they died in the late eighties. My wife attended Catholic school in a Polish church so she had no formal education in english until the ninth grade when she started public school. As late as fifteen years ago my oldest daughters Christening was conducted in Polish and a second time in broken english by a priest (MILs nephew )that had just come over. To this day my brother in laws and I resist her family gatherings because Polish is the language of choice. After 25 years I have picked some up and can understand enough to get the gist of their conversations.
Just my opinion but if you are going to live here celebrate and keep your heritage but when you are conducting business learn the language and customs.


MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK    Posted 03-02-2004 at 13:03:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Gerrit - Patria's husband    Posted 02-23-2003 at 19:56:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It is my opninion that every immigrant should learn the language of the country where they are immigrating to. Being an experienced immigrant myself ( I am Dutch; I lived in Germany for 13 years and I am fluent in German; Now I live in Puerto Rico and I am learning Spanish and it won't be long before I am fluent in Spanish ) I know that this is the only way to adjust to one's new country.
If immigrant refuses to learn the language I think they should go back to where they came from. An immigrant is a guest and should respect the culture and learn the language.
In the Netherlands the government tries to get immigrants to learn about the country and learn to speak the language, but the success of this program is not very encouraging. Large groups of immigrants simply refuse to assimilate.
It happened to me, not too long ago, in a bar in Amsterdam - my home town - that the waiter did not speak or understand Dutch; he only spoke English. I was really annoyed by that. I mean, I speak English but in my own country I want to communicate in Dutch!
Anyway, I think it's a matter of mentality. If you know what you're doing when you immigrate, you'll learn about the culture and learn the language!


Mr.Mathole Padan    Posted 03-02-2004 at 13:06:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FORM Mathole Padan
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH-AFRICA.
TEL NO:27 83-358-4448
EMAIL:MATHOLEP@YAHOO.CO.UK
URGENT FUND TRANSFER
Dear Sir,

I write you from my office table through e-mail in anticipation that it will be strictly confidential and such will introduce myself to you. Being the Chief Accounting Officer,Department of Energy and Mineral Resources here in the Republic of South Africa, I write to solicit your sincere assistance in order to redeem an investment interest currently being held under trust with the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources.
The said investment which is now valued at USD37Million was originally purchased by Mr. Nicholas Riggs and leased in 1984 to Noble Gold Miners Investment.At maturity of the contract in May 1999,several attempts were made without success,to contact Mr.Nicholas Riggs or any of his relatives in whose favour the cash value for the redeemed investment could be made.
As the head of accounts in the department,I have with my director general carefully initiated the process of filing a claim for the money with the hope of having the fund transfered abroad for investment on our behalf and we are hopefull you will agree with our intention to arrange payment of the claim in your name.
We require that you let us prepare and file the claim for the money from this department indicating your name as the appointed beneficiary of the fund.Upon approval of the payment of this claim,you will be paid thirty Seven Million United States Dollars (USD37Million),and since the money will be transfered directly into your bank account,you will have the responsibility to ensure that we receive our share of the money which we have decided will be 80% for possible investment in your country at your supervision while you will keep 20% as your personal commission.Expenses incurred will be deducted from our share.
I have to assure you however,that we are to make the payment of this fund possible provided you are ready to meet with us and give us a very strong guarantee that our share of the fund will be secured in your hands and that you will not betray our trust in making the transfer of the fund into your bank account.
This is a very safe and risk-free involvement as it is not prone to any enquiry since we are all active partners and will not want to loose our
positions in government and department.
We demand that you keep this transaction very private and confidential in view of our personal involvements.Full details of the procedures for the claim will be provided as soon as we receive your response and acceptance to be part of this agreement.
We expect the immediate indication of your interest in assisting us through phone or e-mail.
Kindly adopt and treat accordingly.
Best regards,
Mr.Mathole Padan,
(Chief Accounting Officer D.E.M.R).



Ludwig    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:47:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think its real easy for us to say "you should be more like me" but I've never been able to learn a second language. I took two years of french in highschool and another year in college and can just barely be stupid with it. I think it'd be real hard for me to pick up another language especially one so wierd and hard as english.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:27:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
As long as you stay in the good ole USA, that shouldn't be a probelm, right? Or maybe it will be eventually.


Mudcat49, BUT CINDI!    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:35:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
If we didn't have wetbacks who would we get to pick oranges??


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:49:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
And to the person with the wetback comment, really not nice.


Mudcat49    Posted 02-24-2003 at 05:04:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Who let the liberal in here?!!!!!
Randy you shouldn't open your mouth about things you don't know about, you need to come to Florida and see the trouble the wetbacks have caused!!!!


Mudcat49    Posted 02-24-2003 at 05:04:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Who let the liberal in here?!!!!!
Randy you shouldn't oben your mouth about things you don't know about, you need to come to Florida and see the trouble the wetbacks have caused!!!!


Randy    Posted 02-24-2003 at 09:02:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
In the first place you don't know if I know about the problems the influx of people from other countries have made. You think that by name calling that helps? People have caused problems EVERYWHERE, not just for you. And by name calling you perpetuate the problems. The reality is that I do feel bad for you that you have so much anger. Sad that we do this to each other. That said, please enjoy your day.


Mudcat49    Posted 02-24-2003 at 10:12:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope I don't have any anger for people from other countrys. I reserve my anger for A$$holes like you!!!


Ludwig    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:05:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually I'm with Randy on this one, name calling doesn't help anybody, and its definately not going to get me on your side.


Randy    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:04:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Even after I tell you to have a good day you have to be hostile. I have only treated you with respect, I expect the same from you. We can all have different opinions, maybe even 2 can be right. Enjoy your night.


Stan fm ETenn    Posted 02-24-2003 at 10:44:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Lay some anger on me, too. I agree with Randy. When we lower ourselves to namecalling we make it much more difficult to improve the situation. We'll all get angry, but we don't have to call names. Peace to all!


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:44:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
My problem is not with our immigrants, it's with the failure of them to learn to communicate. I have lots of spanish customers, and was struggling to learn spanish and a little bird who comes in here occasionally one day reminded me that I was not doing them any favors by making it easy for them. Teach them she said. I have adopted that policy. If I lose a sale because I couldn't speak spanish, they lost what they came for becuase they couldn't speak english


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:06:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Being in business to sell stuff perhaps you should learn to adapt. They will just buy from someone else. Maybe learning a different language isn't just making it easier for them but also bettering yourself. Knowledge is power.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:22:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maybe I should but I refuse. People tend to buy whatever is the best price.


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:35:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm not sure if they buy so much by price here. I have a landscaping business here. Real wierd area, an hour or so from NYC. Heavy influx of weekend people with more dollars then brains. And on weekends I speak mostly Yiddish! Enjoy your night Cindi, time to go.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:38:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nice talking to you. Landscaping is tough work. Best wishes to you and yours.


Ludwig    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:22:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes.
Its one commercial, and the tag line is in english.
Face it, P&G doesn't give a dang about you but frankly they don't give a dang about anybody or anything but money. If they think they can make some more money by running one commercial, or even all comercials in spanish thats what they'll do. The hispanic section of our society is the fastest up and coming group around with developing buying power and few brand loyalties. Marketers have seen this before with other groups and plan to cash in.

You want to really make a difference? Unplug the TV you don't need that idiot box anyway.
We don't have cable and where I live if you don't have cable you might as well not bother. We have maybe 50 movies we watch, but I spend some time on the computer, I read, I snowmobile, we talk, play cribbage or listen to the radio. My neighbor thinks I'm nuts and can't believe I can be informed without TV. The first year was kind of tough but 3 years later its not so bad. Even if I had basic cable alone I've saved $1080 in just 3 years...
We were house sitting last week, they have DirectTV, over 200 channels. I got bored with it, watched maybe 2 hours a day and that was mostly while taking breaks from snowmobiling or plowing out from the 25" of snow, or rebuilding my extra sled...


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:47:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Perhaps instead of being angry at a company for trying to make money one could always better themselves with more knowledge. I.E. learn a second or third language. If you owned a company would you not try to sell to all different people?


hey randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 18:13:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
i would like to share with you the bumper sticker i seen the other day" speak english or get the h&ll out of here"


Ludwig    Posted 02-24-2003 at 08:28:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hmm, very mature...


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:13:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not big on the 'roll over' policy. If I moved to Mexico one of the first things I would do is learn the language if for no other reason than to avoid being taken advantage of. Learning a new language is a whole lot simpler when you are living in the country that speaks it. It's called immersion learning and is the most effective way to learn.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:02:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't think the hispanic people will benefit by being beleagured with commercials like the rest of us. If I need diapers, toothpaste, I buy what's on sale or the product that I have tried and like. Commercials do ZIP for me. The problem here is encouraging non-english speaking people to think that it's okay that we can't understand a dam* thing they say, because we will accomodate them. You may not live in an area of the country where it's a problem but a lot of folks do. Try being a teacher who has to communicate with a parent about their child, and they don't speak english. Wait til you have to learn that second language that is so hard for you so that you can function in THIS COUNTRY.


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:16:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I live in Ct, big influx of immigrants. Worked with a man from Brazil, he spoke no English. I learned to speak Portuguese. Thankfully I did or I would have missed the friendship of the nicest person I have met.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:25:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
But what happens when he runs into the next job, guy, who isn't prepared to learn portugese? You've got a great new freind who still can't order a cheeseburger at Burger King.


Randy    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:37:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
After 9/11 he got scared and left. Went back home to be a farmer actually. Coffee and pepper plants.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:39:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL! I don't blame him.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:51:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have over three hundred vhs tapes as I am a movieholic and that's where I get most of my entertainment. I watch maybe three hours of tv a week mostly news and TLC or DISC, but I visit the AP news release daily and that's where I heard about this. I don't think I want to ignore this for some reason, as I do most other stuff.


kinda    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:28:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
makes ya think of what the indians had to put up with huh


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:53:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
The indians put up with a lot more crap than a simple language barrier.


cornfused    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:27:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your right on with this one Cindi. I bet if I move to France they will all learn English so I can get along. Who knows, they may even join in support of this country!


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:36:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
What really rubs me the wrong way is if you notice, the local spanish channels on television do not provide english subtitles. They are for spanish speaking people only!


cornfused    Posted 02-23-2003 at 15:02:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'll stick my neck out here but I am getting real sick of "minorities" clammering for equality in everything and then turning around and making sure everyone knows they are different! When is the last time you saw "white" history week? How about a "caucasion" cultural festival? In my opinion, and I am still entitled to it, Jesse Jackson and the like are the biggest racist and biggots alive. If you want to be treated like the white, middle class American quit flaunting in my face how different you are and start being color blind! Why can't we be like on these boards----you don't know if I am black, white, or plaid untill you meet me or see a picture, until then I was just another human being.


Maggie/TX    Posted 02-23-2003 at 20:52:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Amen, Cornfused! You are absolutely right!


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:22:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know what you're saying equality should swing both ways.


swing?????    Posted 02-23-2003 at 17:58:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
now we got swingers in here jeeze whats next girl?


Short Round    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:03:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like your comment Cornfused, you are right on.


bill b va    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:21:03       [Reply]  [No Email]

money talks ... if the majority of the audiance don't understand whats being advertised there won't be much sold . they may just drown in their own shutt which could be a good thing .


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 16:20:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
But....if the rest of the audience feels the way I do they stand to risk a lot more losses than 'potential' sales. They stand to risk established sales. Mine anyway.


Taylor Lambert    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:20:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
THeres a new plant goin in Alabama, I operate heavy machinery for a living since im laid off i went put in my application and they called me to see if i could operate a crane. They let me go to work unloading trucks with a moblie crane. All the Iron workers are Mexican, no problems with that except theres 1400 out of work Iron workers in north Alabama alone that were raised there. I made it throug the day unloading trucks loads of beams. I quit after trying to figure out where they needed the steel set what needed to be seperated, and i dont know enough Spanish to say anything worht knowing. None of them knew universal crane signals I ended up making them leave since i had to get off the crane every time to rig the lines right. It kinda aggravates me because i have a friend thats a good iron worker and he cant find a job to save his life and they hire all these folks that arent even Citizens to work for minimum wage. THe best part about the plant they want to bring in there own folks to run it after its built. I guess im ranting now but it burns me up sometimes.


Jimbob    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:14:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I appreciate the USA being a 'land of opportunity', however I have noticed some of the foreigners do not care for learning US customs & the English language. I know hispanics have been harvesting crops for years in Michigan when others did not want to do it- very labor intensive. We will see where it all goes, if you are 'white', you just may not 'fit-in' in some areas now & in the future.


Cindi    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:22:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
IF this is a successful sales campaign you can look forward to tons of spanish ads in the future. I am sending an e mail to P and G to let them know that I will not use their products anymore.


kraig WY    Posted 02-23-2003 at 14:10:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Got to agree with you Cindi, I believe pandering to minorities does nothing more the increase racial problems. We need to stop the Espanic this, African that, Asian whatever. We are either Americans or we arn't. You pamper kids in school with their "native language" then they get out of school and try to get buy in the business world where English is used and wonder why they can't compete.


A-FARMALL    Posted 02-23-2003 at 23:06:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
CINDI, AND EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO BE UPSET ,WHETER IT BE WHITE ,BIACK, AMERICAN INDIAN,OR WHATEVER U ARE, ALL STAND TOGETHER AS ONE GROUP AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE GOVERMENT AS FOREFATHERS BEFORE US DID FROM THE BRITISH, WE ARE NO LONGER A FREE COUNTRY AS SOME OFU DREAM WE ARE, WE ARE LIVING JUST AS THE PEPOL OF GERMANY RIGHT AFTER HITLER TOOK OVER , THEY HAVE TAKEN EVERY PRIVLAGE THEY CAN FROM.TO ALL OF U WHO FIREARMS TAKE SPECIAL OF THE NEW PATORIT LAW THAT THEY GOING TO PUT PLACE NEXT YEAR, IT WILL GIVE THEM THE TO ISSUE A FEDRAL WARRANT ON EVERY REGISTERD GUNOWNER IN OCUPPIED AMERICA TO SURRNDER YOUR FIREARMS OR GO TO PRISON.


Cindi    Posted 02-24-2003 at 04:48:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I guess it's a very good thing that not all are registered. Maybe 2 or 3 out of.....thirty! Lol!


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