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Raptor    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:00:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bought some ground in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma, to get away from cities, people, and noise. The plan was to move there in another three years, looks like that's been shot to he!!.

A couple of guys bought the place across the dirt road from me, and joy of joys, have started a moto-cross/ATV race track.... I could spit gasoline. They expect 3-4 THOUSAND people there EVERY week-end. Don't mean to begrudge anybody of the right to use their land, but I damn sure don't want that next to me. Nothing I can do about it. Guess I'll sell my ground, and try again.


Alvin NE WI    Posted 02-25-2003 at 19:25:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I go along with what Old Sarge said==get a bunch of chickens, pile the shutt close to the road. In the summer when it is hot the chicken stuff heats up real good and has a very nice sweet smelling , unforgetable , unforgiven oder..

Brad in IN    Posted 02-25-2003 at 09:54:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know, I was raised on a farm and decided I needed to go back to the country. I don't make my mortgage payments and work my farm, just to have a neighbor do something on their property that affects property value.
I won't stand by and let someone knock 40% of my property value, because of their trashy ways. Sorry, you can't take two 20 year old mobile homes and tape them together, and clal that proterty rights. Sorry, you can't start a salvage yard yard on a whim, and tell me tough luck. I will have something to say to white trash costing me six figures in my home's value.

If some don't like it, move to Appolachia.

135    Posted 02-25-2003 at 13:01:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Every liberty has a corresponding respondsibility, think about it...........

Okie-Dokie    Posted 02-25-2003 at 06:49:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
From a REAL fourth generation backwoods Okie: Why don't you all go home? Just go back to where ever you came from and take your city ways with you. The ones that create all that noise and polution with the ATV's and you all that have recently discovered the quiet peaceful country life here in Okla. Just go on back home. If we need you, we will let you know. Thanks.

Farmer (white trash) Wantabe    Posted 02-25-2003 at 13:18:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Gee Okie Dokie, yer nicely worded post sure makes me feel bad for posting my heated responce below. Gotta go now, have to finish the hog house I'm building out of two 68 Chevy Impalas and duct tape. Sure hope it don't drop the neighbors property value too much, sure hate to see them lose that retirement place in AZ they dream about. LOL

Spence    Posted 02-25-2003 at 00:12:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's a good idea to keep an eye on the local papers for the area you have land. Re-zonage and meetings for land use where owners are allowed to object to proposed land use changes, are posted by the county in the ads sections of said papers.

Farmer Wantabe    Posted 02-25-2003 at 05:09:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think the best plan for zoning would be to zone out anybody who wants to tell others how to use their own land, or just line em up for a firing squad. Geez!! I get tired of people moving into the country and they no more than show up and they jump on that bandwagon of telling everybody else what to do with ther land. If it werent for us greedy, profiteering type land owners you'd all be stuck in 100 story high rise apartments. Please expalin to me just what exactly makes you special? I 'spose in this case you would try to make some case for noise? Well let me tell you Mr, I don't like the damn noise from your yuppie mobliles peeling up and down my road. I don't like the fact that I am afraid to let my youg kids get the mail for getting run over. I dont like the fact that the population of yuppie dens has made city water a sewer neccisary AND I am paying for it. I don't like your city raised morals thinning out the country folk atmosphere around here. In short, I dont like you being around PERIOD so take your holyer than the Lord himself, self-serving socialist BS and stick it. If us farm owners were socialists like you we'd all lined up years ago and you wouldn't be out here to complain to start with!! I don't blame people for loting off their frontage land, it's their darn land, not mine. You can build your yuppie dens too, it's your darn lot, or "farmete" or "horse ranch" or what ever you call it. BUT QUIT TELLING ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY LAND ONCE YOU GET HERE!!

Pheew, I feel better.
The non-socialist, free market, free country, Farmer Wantabe

Spence    Posted 02-25-2003 at 17:24:04       [Reply]  [No Email]

I'm all for what you say, I was suggesting the problem is the poster wasn't alert enough to what is going on around his property.

Most people assume all they have to do is buy the land and sit tight for that cloudless day 15 years from now when they'll retire and start a hog farm on the 50 acres. Trouble is things may become
very real-estate volatile around his land, with people liking the scenery and start opening up bed-and-breakfasts and tourist interests for example. If the guy with the 50 acres suddenly realizes he's in the middle of a building project, the county will usually side with existing and established residences in making the final decision. The ones already established usually carry the most weight. There is nothing sinister in this reasoning by the county. People living on their land have wells and septic systems. So they have an interest in assuring children and everyone will not get diseases from polluted waters that the 50 acre guy may cause.

So your right it's unfair, but the time to complain is when the guy asks permission to start a B&B. That's when you tell the county nothin doing because your opening a hog operation one day (put it in writing too and send it registered mail, so they can use it whenever a case may surface concerning adjoining property). Doing so sends up red flags as to your intent, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
You gotta watch what the next guy is doing and what he wants, or you could get trapped.

Maggie/TX    Posted 02-25-2003 at 09:14:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your rights to do as you please with your land end at your property line. And my rights to do as I please on my land start at MY property line. If what you do on your land are causing noise pollution or air pollution or some such, then you are overstepping your boundaries and infringing on MY rights. I think that is what this whole thread is about, isn't it?

rapto    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:13:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes Maggie it is. Thank you for seeing that.


Farmer Wantabe    Posted 02-25-2003 at 10:32:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maggie, Read Brad from Indiana's responce, that is what riles me, but what riles me more are the people that jump on the socialist bandwagon in the name of the good of the people when the bottom line is they are only looking out for their own well being, aka their given rights to rising property values. Tell me, what does a person's property value mean to them IF they plan on staying? Not a thing. These people are not caring people of the land. They are simply investors, they invest a smal amount to have a few acres and take it as a right to look over my 160, my crops, my stock. Then they try to stop me from dividing my land so I my profit in order to secure their own investment. They are the ones on the sly, not me and when backed in corner the real people come out as with Brad. Sorry to ruffle your feathers Maggie, I like ya. FW

Maggie/TX    Posted 02-25-2003 at 13:04:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ohhh, ok, it all becomes clear to me now. I thought you were replying to Raptor. I agree with your point of view, then. We moved where we're at now to get out of city limits to avoid many things, among them city rules and regulations like zoning. Soon as we moved here people started moving in all around us, bringing their citified ways and budding juvinile delinquents with them. First thing you know, some of the more mouthy of the newbies petitioned county court for a new law that we can't shoot on our property. Then some of them started talking about starting a Homeowners Association. I told them real quick that not only did I think it was a bad idea, but that I would fight them every inch of the way if they tried to start any cockamamie Homeowners Association.

Fawteen    Posted 02-25-2003 at 07:34:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Seems to me the feller said "I don't like what my neighbor is going to do with his land, so I'm selling mine and moving on."

Where's the problem with that?

If it's okay for you to do what you want on your land (and it certainly is!) then isn't it EQUALLY okay for me to sit on my land and b!tch about it?

Farmer Wantabe    Posted 02-25-2003 at 10:19:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Fawteen I was replying to Spence and his "go to the zoning board" answer, not the original post. Rapter has it right, buy enough to get away from your neighbors or go back and make new plans. People coming out, moving in beside us and bitching all the way to the zoning boards about their new neighbors is a bunch of crap. And yup, you and me both have the right to complain all we want,isn't that a whole lot different than standing on yer side of the fence holding a zoning code book and telling me what to do on my land?

Duke Black    Posted 02-24-2003 at 16:52:59       [Reply]  [No Email]

Scott Hansen    Posted 02-24-2003 at 16:08:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Bummer! I really do not know what I would there a noise ordinance?

AAArrrrgh yourself    Posted 02-24-2003 at 15:10:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Another post from somebody who wants to tell other people what to do with their own land.

walt    Posted 02-24-2003 at 15:08:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Parking. $5.oo a carload..

Jimbob    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:53:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
What a pain! I have heard stories of this. Perhaps you can open a party store that sells discount beer among other items, show a good 'bottom line' then sell at all at a huge profit.

Brad in IN    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:49:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had the same cottin' pickin' problem. I owned my place for ten years; way out of town, and peaceful. Then ABATE of Indiana, bought 300 acres on the next ridge and made an off-road park. They also have an anual "Boogie" each summer, which brings thousands of dregs (and a few normal people) riding through the countryside to attend this.
I actually didn't mind the major event. I can deal with a few days, but to have off road vehicles running every weekend is nuts!!.
Unfortunately, it is just across the county line, and that county proudly claims to have no zoning regulations. A housing addition is adjacent to the property, and they're paying for it.

Old Sarge    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:14:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If it is zoned Agricultural Crop land they can be stopped. I'd check with the County Commission that permitted it to be built.

Old Sarge    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:16:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Or better still go into raisingg broilers, you know Chickens. You can probably get as contract from Tyson.

If all else fails fill it up with pigs.

Randy    Posted 02-24-2003 at 14:12:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Or start a campground for all those people!

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