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Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:14:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A friend wants to move to upstate New York or elsewhere in the northeast. Dead set on getting a Yurt. Does anybody have any experience with them? What brand, problems, etc. Thank you.

teepee would work better    Posted 02-26-2003 at 12:06:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
hold the heat. them plains injuns lived through stuff you NYers never dreamt of. but they et their youngens. thets wot i wus tolt.

bob ny    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:47:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
i hate to bring this up but town,county and state zoning might want footings to be below frost level and construction to be 2x8 or better
the price should climb when they get through

Salmoaneye    Posted 02-26-2003 at 11:20:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dunno about there, but here in our town, the second you do all that stuff it will be long as it is a 'temporary, movable structure', it won't even show up on the tax rolls...

Ludwig    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:18:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Isn't a Yurt where you build a hut sort of thing out of sticks straw and animal dung?
I've lived my whole life in New England and never seen one...

I'm serious here, quit grinnin!

Homesteader    Posted 02-27-2003 at 14:51:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I seriously considered a yurt for my home for a while.
Did a bunch of research and finally came to the
conclusion that I could build a real honest-to-gawd post
& beam cabin for about the same amount of money.
Just didn't make sense, to me, to spend that much for
what's really just a big tent.

Still, to each his own! .

Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:30:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Actually a Mongolian thing. They were mostly round it seems and easy to put up and take down and move. Try I think that's it. 2 here in our town in northwest CT. Never see anyone around to ask about them.

Salmoneye    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:55:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am bored today...

I logged some time at the site you mentioned before you mentioned it...Seems sound enough but your friend will need the options for snow/high wind up here...If I am remebering my basic geometry correctly...A 30' Yurt would be somewhere slightly over 700 square feet with 13 foot at the peak...Not bad for less than $10K...Might even keep it in mind for a sugar shack shape, though I would probably build my own...Somehow LOL...

Not bad? HUH?    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:13:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I built a 70' x 16' hay shed addition for under $2,000. AND supported my local sawyer some. Thats about $1.79 sq. ft. That Yurt thing is something like $14.28 a sq.ft. Must be one heck of a profit in Maple syrup up there Salmoneye. M.D.

Salmoneye    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:27:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yeah well...You have a point...

And I did say that if I used the design idea, that I would build my own...

Salmoneye, whose latest project was a 11x12 'greenhouse' for less than $200, and $70+ of that was the clear PVC roof panels...

now your talkin-    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:43:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
thats more like it... Mike

Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:10:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The lady he's seeing now has a couple acres here and said he should get a small one and put it up there. That to me sounds like the right thing to do. At least if it isn't the solution to his housing you have less time and dollars into it. And if it gets too cold you can walk 100' into the warm house!

Ludwig    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:52:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Huh, wild. Never seen one before...

Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:57:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The ones here look like round tents basically. I'm not convinced that is the way for my friend to go yet. And I hate to have a friend buy one and not enjoy the experience.

Ludwig    Posted 02-26-2003 at 09:58:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Is your friend planning to live in it full time? I guess as a tent for short term shelter it'd be okay, but it seems like it'd be a nightmare to heat in the wintertime for any real duration.

Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 10:06:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes, he wants to live there full time. They have insulation kits and all but..... I know it's not much warmer in upstate NY then NH or VT etc. and probably as much snow. I think I'd rather stick build a little shack for probably the same price when you're all in and done.

Ludwig    Posted 02-26-2003 at 14:28:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm kinda keen on the cordwood building idea. This summer when it warms up I'm going to try some experiments with it. Then at some point we need a shed by the camp so I'm thinking to use cordwood walls, just whatever kind of wood I find on the farm so it'll be cheap.
You get thermal mass with cordwood and also insulation of a type. Should work pretty well.

Randy    Posted 02-26-2003 at 15:11:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Have seen the cord wood building in a few articles. Looks quite interesting. Good luck with it and let us know how it turns out.
We're going to sell our 50 acres in upstate NY this year and look for acreage with a house on it. The little lady just doesn't have the faith in me to build us a place of our own. This is where we really miss our fathers. Hers was an electrician and mine a carpenter. We could just sit at home and let them enjoy themselves!

Ludwig    Posted 02-26-2003 at 15:50:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well my wife and I put a porch on the camp last summer, then in the fall with Dad's help we put a roof over the porch and reroofed the whole camp. I figure building the shed is the next step in our learning process.
Gonna do the first two courses with concrete block for ridgidity and water resistance. Then 8" long wood pieces. The top course of block will have a piece of wood over top braced underneith on the inside to make up the difference. I bought the "Cordwood houses" book by Rob Roy, theres a similar technique in it that somebody used to reuse a foundation.

More Cordwood...    Posted 02-26-2003 at 16:03:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Below is a link to Daycreek...

Great site...Guy is building a multisided, multilevel cordwood house and documenting the progress weekly on the site...

He also has done a whack of research and has loads of links to others in the CordWood world...

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