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dg    Posted 03-28-2003 at 06:25:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ok, I own a piece of property that I had hoped to retire on. Got to talking to the older gentelman that I lease to run his cows on it. He told me before I do anything I needed to check on water. I did and was told by the state that my chance of having a productive well was slim to none. Talked to a local driller and he seems to believe I'd have water at my location, no gauranties of course. There are wells north and south of me within a couple of miles. The state says I'm on the edge of the aquifer. Do I take the gamble on paying for a dry well or sell the place and start over? As I understand it there wouldn't be a fee for a dry well but because of the questions they will not drill under that contract. The gambles all mine.


dg    Posted 03-28-2003 at 14:25:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks to you all. A lot of good advise. I do believe in devining rods but Im not too sure about the well witching which I know has nothing to do with witch craft. The name originated by the name of the tree the best forks were cut from. I've used devining rods to locate under ground pipes. Something to do with the magnetic field of the earth, it does work but I don't know about water. I do have my heart set on the place. The cows are watered by a couple of surface pounds, I planned on digging more but if I can't come up with a way for house hold water I don't think I'll put anymore money in it. I do have a dry branch on one side of the place. I don't trust the state, it's like they don't want me to drill a well. They make it sound like if I ain't on this aquifer (which they say I ain't) I can't have water. I'm on the east end of the county and they say I'm right on the edge of it but there are plenty of small towns to the west of me and they get water. According to the maps they sent me all them people would be high and dry. Thanks to all again, a lot of good info.


Pitch    Posted 03-28-2003 at 14:01:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with the dowser folks. I bought a piece of property and folks around said that water was real spotty. I can't really dowse myself good enough to tell how deep and how much but I can tell if it is there. I think most anyone can do it at least as well as I can. Get yourself a couple of coat hangers and bend them at 90 degree angles so one end is about 4or5" long and the other end about 18 Hold them loosly in your hands straight out in front of you. Now no kiddin try this trust me hold them like I said and walk towards your toilet they should start to either move together or apart and move the opposite way after you cross over it. QUIT LAUGHIN AND JUST TRY IT OK If this works for you grab your hangers and go out and walk your property if you get any hits check around with people and they should be able to point you a real dowser to back up your findings. I did this and the dowser found a real good spot just about where I found it and we got an artesion at 68' there is still no garauntee but it is better than nothing.


Pitch    Posted 03-28-2003 at 14:02:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
P.S. Try not to call them water witches as some take real offense at that because they consider their talent a gift from God.


Red Dave    Posted 03-28-2003 at 11:29:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are many old 1700's & 1800's era places around my neck of the woods that didn't have wells until the last 30 years or so because the water table was too low for the old hand-dug wells. As the old folks (or their heirs) sell out, most have wells drilled because today lenders will not loan money on property without water.
Those places used cisterns which were fed by rainwater from roofs. House roofs are good, barn roofs are bigger. Some would use both if the buildings were close enough. Many today have cisterns as backup to weak wells. It can be done, but you have to have enough sense to manage it. No car washing, lawn watering, leaky toilets etc.
You would need to give some thought to the type of roof you have too, since it will affect the quality of your water.
I've used cistern water and it's fine for toilets, clothes washing, showers, etc., but I wouldn't drink it.



slim    Posted 03-28-2003 at 11:14:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
On HGTV or DIY I saw a house that caught all its water from rainfall. It flowed to a very large storage tank. Afterward it was treated and usable for drinking water. I think they also had a swimming pool. I don't think I would rely on a system like this for lawn irrigation or largescale animal watering in addition to the house. The program said it worked fine and was very reliable. It seemed a little expensive though.

slim


Ana    Posted 03-28-2003 at 10:10:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Perking is no problem---nothing around here passes a perk test---too much clay! We just have to have a lagoon instead. And it had to pass government inspection---that you have to pay for. As for a well, my dad was a driller and he always said there was water everywhere, just some of it was very deep, some of it wasn't good enough to drink. We had a farm without water once, put in a cistern tank and caught water off the roof. Filter it and pump it to the house---tasted better than city water. If you get a loan from a bank though, they might not go along with it. AND I think you are supposed to get the water tested these days by some government agency. Rules, rules, rules.


Gary, Mt. Hermon, La    Posted 03-28-2003 at 09:18:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well let's see, they can directional drill for oil, why not for water? I'd ask and explore all options, especially if I had my heart set on the place.


kraig WY another option    Posted 03-28-2003 at 08:28:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I as well as most others in this are haul water. I have a well but it has too much gypson. I buried a systrum, or a large water tank in the ground and haul water from town. I use a 450 gal tank in the back of a 3/4 ton pickup. The average family uses 200 gal of water per day.


Ludwig    Posted 03-28-2003 at 08:22:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
The others are right, #1 get a perc test for septic. Better to find out now you'll need some crazy work done for that than later. A failed perc doesn't mean you can't have septic, just means its harder, more $$.
Then get a dowser, deviner, water witch, whatever they call 'em where you are. If your in New England I'll do it for a good meal. I've always found water, trouble is sometimes its deeper than you'd want to hear about. Yes I can tell with some athority about the depth.

Yes I catch alot of crap because I'm young, but never get any crap after the water is where I say it is. Interestingly getting my ear pierced seems to have helped my sense, its easier now than ever.

Ask around at the well drillers in your area, they'll know somebody who can do it.


jeffrey Marlowe    Posted 02-22-2007 at 05:54:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am looking for some direction as to where best to drill a new
water well on my property in southern rhode island. The parcel
is 12 acres but the existing well on the property is 380 ft deep
and draws approx. 1 gpm. Anyone able to recommend a dowser
with a credible reputation that I can contact?


Catfish    Posted 03-28-2003 at 07:25:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
How is he getting water for the cows to drink while they're on your property , Creeks or streams ?..........If you have one of these chances are you'll have water for well.....


Clipper    Posted 03-28-2003 at 07:22:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
All depends on how bad you want to retire there. Have you considered using a water witcher? We used one for our property and he marked 3 locations for water. The driller nailed good water 125 ft. down and we have never run out of water-that was 16 years ago....


Salmoneye    Posted 03-28-2003 at 08:17:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thought I was the only one that still believed in Water Witching...

One of my Uncles is a dowser...Saw him pulled off his feet once...Dang apple branch cut right through his skin too...That well came in at 80 foot and 30 GPM...

I can't do it for spit...


Lazy Al    Posted 03-28-2003 at 13:04:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are you sure that's the whole truth nothing but the truth so help you henry
Right off his feet huh?
Al


Salmoneye    Posted 03-28-2003 at 17:04:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ayuh...

All I can say is what I saw...Dunno no more, no less...And I saw the blood in his palms...He has tried with metal rods and stuff...Can only do it with a 'green' apple fork...

I have tried numerous times and have never been able to get a hit on anything...no water, electric or buried pipes...

I have seen my Uncle do all three...I can't explain it...Or in my 'scientifically' trained mind even begin to fathom the forces at work...

But I do believe it...sorta a faith thing...

Kinda like believing in God, doncha know...And I have a hard time with that...

But I'm still trying...


Sam Rayburn Middle School    Posted 02-26-2005 at 12:46:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My Middle School students have recently read
about a "witching stick" and just a bit about its
history in Germany, England, and the U.S. Is
there a site I can use to find out more
information about this tool? My mother grew
up in the Depression Era in Arkansas. She
heard of the use of water witchers but not in
her family. Thank you for any assistance you
can give my students and me. S. Ruffino



Ron/PA    Posted 03-28-2003 at 06:35:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not sure how that works, Here in central PA my driller says he "can" get water anywhere, no guarantees how deep or how much, but he will get me water.
Also no guarantees on the cost.
Just a second thought, if you stay, and before you spend $ to get water, make sure you can support a septic system, alot of properties have been bought only to find out that the land won't perk.
Later
Ron


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