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Wisconsin engine on a baler
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Tom A    Posted 04-29-2003 at 04:45:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Just bought an old NH 66 baler with a Wisconsin 2 cylinder engine with electric starter.

Previous owner says when last used (2-3 years ago), the engine ran well once it started, but that it was very hard to start...he said the magneto needs a rebuild but he really recommended switching to a coil.

Over the next few weeks I'll be cleaning up the engine and have 2 questions, one general one specific:

1) Is the starter probably 6 or 12 volts?
2) Any special things or peculiarities I should be aware of on this engine? (I know engines fairly well, but have never seen a Wisconsin before)

thanks in advance for any and all help!

Tom


magpie    Posted 04-30-2003 at 08:40:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I hope you get your starting problems ironed out. Once you get used to an engine driven baler you will never go back to a P.T.O. drive. My father had a baler with a 2 cyl wisconsin it worked fine, he used to pour motor oil through the carb to store it for the winter. Seemed to start O.K. the next year. I have used new PTO balers as well as worn out ones, none of them work as good as an engine drive.


Hey Tom,    Posted 04-29-2003 at 13:58:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Congrats on the baler. I know from experience that they are hard to start. It is a coil. Make sure the fields are clean. Use emory paper.
Let me know how it fairs. Looks like that boy of yours will get a workout when he comes home to belly up!!!
Mike D.


Fawteen    Posted 04-29-2003 at 06:46:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
I fail to understand why so many folks are mystified by (and consequently, afraid of) magnetos.

There's a real good reason that race engines use them in place of distributor/points/coil ignition.

Take the mag to a good mag shop and have it rebuilt, make sure the engine is in good tune with fresh gas and a properly adjusted carb, and it should start like a charm.

My old F14 is a crank start/magneto ignited engine, and unless I have a dumb-a$$ attack and flood it, it starts good, year-round.


Dave 2N    Posted 04-29-2003 at 11:36:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Totally agree with what Fawteen said. Get that mag rebuilt, make sure that all else is up to snuff and you'll be happy with the mag.


JD-Tractor in NY    Posted 04-29-2003 at 12:02:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dave I have extensive exp. w/ wisconsin engines the charging system is most likely a coil behind the flywheel it is going to be 6 volt and you may go thru the proverbial H#&^%* finding a dist for that engine. That engine and parts are no longer being made.


Ron/PA    Posted 04-29-2003 at 05:30:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom, since you are dealing with a Magneto, odds are it's 6 volts, unless you see some sign of a conversion ie; an alternator instead of a generator. As far as converting to a coil, I'm not sure why, a magneto makes 12 volt conversions a snap. With a Magneto, your ignition and charging systems are normally totally seperate.
Check to see if you have a shop in the area that works on Magneto's if you do, and it were me I'd prolly just stick with what's been working for years,
Now about wisconson's on balers,, we had a 66 for alot of years, and yes they are just about the most miserable engine I ever tried to start in the spring, however after that it was usually an easy starter for the rest of the year. We finally found that we did as well, using the big fly wheel to crank it over (two hands and 1 foot) but we could start it quicker that way than with the electric starter.
Good luck
Ron


Salmoneye    Posted 04-29-2003 at 05:02:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
As you probably know, the starter doesn't give a darn if you put 6 or 12 volts to it...Many 12-volt conversions out there with the original 6-volt starter giving years of reliable service...

I would fire it on 12 and let the mag take over and see how it goes...Just don't crank forever...15 second bursts with 30 second in between will give the starter a chance to cool off...worse thing is that you will have to convert to a coil and then you can do it 'right' if you have to...


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