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Drinking Pond Water
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Robert    Posted 05-01-2003 at 08:39:18       [Reply]  [No Email]

I have a spring fed pond, no run off goes into it. The water is very cold and clean, and in the "old days" it was our only drinking water. There's a pretty good out flow from it year around no matter how dry the weather gets.

As you can see, my shop is next to this pond and i'd like to pump the water out of the pond for washing cloths, drinking, and bathroom duties. I also have a shower in the bathroom in there.

The problem is, there's fish in the pond, and i also see ducks, geese, and muskrats in there from time to time, and i'm sure they don't "get out" to go to the bathroom! So, how am i going to "inexpensively" use this water for my purpose??? Any idea's???

Thanks,
Robert


Robert    Posted 05-03-2003 at 07:01:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for your coments!!

I guess i'll end up putting a water line in from the house, as i have a big cement box in the ground there, and a 2" flowing well into the box from the bottom. I then have a pipe into the house with a pump in the basement to pump out of the box what i need.

I guess i'll just pipe this water to the shop, as the overflow from the box shoots out a 2" pipe that never gets used. What i'm saying is i'd never use that much water if everything in the house and shop were running together. The water is the best i've ever tasted too.

I guess i was trying to use the closest water source, as it's ocer 300' from the house to the shop.

Thanks again,
Robert


Hal/WA    Posted 05-01-2003 at 17:06:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love your setting! Wish I had a body of water that lasted all year on my property.

I would certainly use water from the pond for everything except drinking. You could filter it a little to get the big stuff out, like sand and organic material. But it costs quite a bit to deal with possible bacteria and other microbial contamination. And it only takes once to really make a person a believer in drinking only safe water--giardia is probably the most common problem, but there could be all sorts of others. They can make you extremely sick. A friend of mine got giardia on a backpacking trip and lost 40 pounds in 2 weeks and wondered if he was going to die!

How much water do you drink? It seems to me that it would be pretty easy to bring down a couple of gallons from your house, or even from the grocery store that you KNOW is safe. Or you could boil the water you plan to drink. With the possible exception of a shower, all the rest of the water could be used as it comes from the pond.

Another thought: Have you considered using the geothermal heat in your pond to heat your shop? Unless electricity is extremely expensive where you are, I bet you could heat (and cool) your shop at very low cost using a geothermal heat pump. The outside coil would be placed under water, prefferably near the springs for greatest efficiency. Good luck!


Ron/PA    Posted 05-01-2003 at 12:30:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Robert, I think you may be surprised how many "Public Water Supplies" are resevoirs, orrrr, very large ponds, some are lakes, and most have fish in them.
I'm with Salmoneye on this, at the very least you want to test, and then run through a U.V Light. After that you can filter for particulates, or minerals as needed.
Later
Ron


Fawteen    Posted 05-01-2003 at 13:50:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Those "Public Water Systems" that rely on surface ponds also treat the heck out of that water.

Here in Maine, the big concern with drinking surface water is Giardiasis, (beaver fever).

But, if you filter and treat it as outlined in the other posts, you should be fine.


Leslie    Posted 05-01-2003 at 09:37:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Just a side note, our son 24 yrs old just came down with camplyobacter from drinking water from a clear,cold spring. He was positive it was clean since there were no farms on either side nor animals pastured anywhere nearby-closest farm was over 1/2 mile away. He ended up in the hospital, had a 10 day stint of antibiotics and a $540 hospital bill. The county health department was notified since it can come from contaminated food at restaurants but the tests came back that it was the contaminated water from where poultry-in this case wild turkeys-had used the area around the spring as a toilet.
The gas,bloating,pain and bloody diarrhea were really bad. So just be careful if you plan on drinking it.
Maybe you could have it checked by a lab for any hazardous 'bugs'.


Salmoneye    Posted 05-01-2003 at 10:08:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
There are inline UV units that will kill any bacteria in the flow through them...They are extensively used in industry and in my case, for maple sap storage...

DISCLAIMER: I have no stock in this company and I know no one that works there...Just good prices compared to most UV units I have seen...


Ludwig    Posted 05-01-2003 at 09:53:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm with Leslie on this one, test the water and then filter/purify to the test. Getting sick is not worth saving money.


Errin OH    Posted 05-01-2003 at 09:17:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
A neighbor here in Ohio had a system where a spring feed a collection box and then was pumped to the house (no fliters). Mabey you could tap the spring and route it to a collection box? I think the box was about 4'x3'x30" deep. Covered, with pump house close by. Overflow ran down to the river.


TB    Posted 05-01-2003 at 08:45:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Is the spring seperate (away) from pound or in the pound?


Robert in W. Mi    Posted 05-01-2003 at 09:41:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are lots of springs all over in the bottom of the pond. You can see them in the winter, because the ice over them looks differently.
Also, some fine sand comes out of the springs, and even some staining like iron comes out of some too. The water taste very good, and nothing settles to the bottom of a jar if you let the weater in it set.
That's why i like the idea of getting the water away from the actual springs, but then again there's the fish ect.. problem.
Robert


DeadCarp    Posted 05-01-2003 at 20:36:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'd drink any spring water i could isolate, even if it had to settle out first - don't use a wooden catch basin cuz gophers dig thru & drown - had a couple bad experiences with pond water tho - wouldn't want to drink that without boiling it no matter how clear. - here's a thought - why not setup a solar still (like 4x8 feet) by the shed and let the sun evaporate it, then store it in black plastic barrel and warm some? No energy used that way :)



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