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What type of goat..?
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Tina-NY    Posted 05-23-2003 at 14:06:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Once we are moved to our farm I really want to get a goat or 2. I had a goat when I was a kid and we used her for milk at times but I dont know much about them. I want a goat that will be gentle around kids and be able to get along with horses and other animals. What breed would be best for a novice goat person? Thanks for any breed suggestions, I want to start researching now.


markct    Posted 05-25-2003 at 15:50:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
i have 2 fainting goats and they are very gentle with kids and stuff,my 2 were bought from a place that had them in a petting zoo so they are very used to kids,and they are darn funny to watch when they faint too!!


Redneck    Posted 05-25-2003 at 03:10:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is off topic a little but yall that have goats already had better keep an eye out for thieves.There has been several stolen around here in the last few weeks.From brush to milk goats,low dollar to high,so who knows why.


cowgirlj    Posted 05-24-2003 at 08:14:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Tina
How about a Knubian?(Flop-Eared) We have one. She is very gentle. You can lead her around with a leash. Knubians are supposed to be good milkers as well, but we got her as a horse pal when we had a horse laid up and confined to a box stall. She gets along fine with our mini donkey, turkeys and chickens as well. The only weird habbit she has, which isn't really a bad habbit, is she stands against walls and hangs her head over backwards and looks at the world upside down.


jimbob    Posted 05-24-2003 at 20:32:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
We have a lot of Knubian up in our country. I have two coming our way next week.


Bud in NC    Posted 05-23-2003 at 16:10:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ever seen a "fainting goat" in "action"? They're neat guys for pets - small and frendly - cheap entertainment, too! I've had both hips replaced twice, my "boss" just had her first knee replacement done - I've explained that having fainting goats is "cow tipping" for cripples...
Look them up on the 'net - they're fun.


Tina-NY    Posted 05-24-2003 at 06:47:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I must say that at first I thought you were just pulling my leg LOL. After doing a search I did come up with a lot of info on then. They do seem to be gentle, sturdy, commical critters. I dont know if fainting is a good thing or bad thou considering we probably have large predetar animals they might someday need to run from. A good amount of top pasture we have is up on a hill which is very private and secluded, I think there may be coyoets up that way. I wouldnt want to be out looking for them to find something spooked them and they fainted to became an easy meal for something ya know. I guess we could just keep them down nearer to the barn pastures with my horses but I want weed control up in that hilly pasture. Maybe we will just have to get a couple different types of goats LOL....


Bud in NC    Posted 05-24-2003 at 07:28:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This area of western NC is loaded with coyotes - someone who doesn't have live stock or pets must have made the decision to re-introduce them to this area. So far we haven't lost a fainting goat to them. We have lost several calves to them, though. We don't go to the back section near the creek without some sort of gun now. One neighbor was on his tractor when he realized he had 6 of the things following him around his pasture during the middle of the day - that ain't a good sign! Horses in the pasture and a wicked electric fence seem to protect the goats. Naw - their fence isn't hot...they'd keep fainting and barbque themselves before they could get off it! The perimeter and everything but their fence is hot. It's tough mowing with them in the area, too - have to keep getting off the tractor and dragging passed out goats out of your way. They are amusing, though. Some of the history I read sums up your fear of being a coyote meal - they kept them with the sheep and when a coyote or wolf showed up, the goat would faint, be eaten and the sheep could make a get away. Don't know if it's true or not...sounds like the occupational hazards of fainting goats has decreased somewhat in modern times, though.


Louis. C    Posted 05-23-2003 at 14:47:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Try www.goatworld.com lots of good information on all types of goats. You can also by and sell.


Tina-NY    Posted 05-24-2003 at 06:48:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
thanks for the site, there is a wealth of info there and I learned a lot just poking around.


Tom A    Posted 05-23-2003 at 14:43:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Tina:

We've got mostly grade alpines, with one registered saanen, one registered oberhasli, and one nigerian dwarf. All are great with kids, and our mule and donkey and at least tolerate the cats and chickens.

All goats have personality. I think the important thing for "getting along" is socializing them from the time they're young. If you can get a goat that is/was hand (bottle) fed from early on it will most likely be good with folks, even bucks when not in breeding season. Look for somebody who really takes care of their goats and you'll have a nice one. That said, I wouldn't recommend a buck for a family goat although wethers make nice pets (just no milk!!).

Our Saanen produces vast amounts of milk for a goat. At her peak milking cycle (from about 2 months after freshening to about 6 or so) she gives a gallon daily. Right now, she's 13.5 months into this lactation and is giving a full 1/2 gallon every day. Our alpines are decent producers, too, but not quite in the same leaque. We've never bred the nigerian dwarf, but they were bred for gentleness and production on small amounts of land and feed. I can vouch that she is very sweet and gentle, just don't know about production.

There are several good beginner's goat books..."Raising Goats the Modern Way" I think is the one we started with, and I'd recommend it.

good luck,
Tom


Tina-NY    Posted 05-24-2003 at 06:57:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
The goat, Whinny, we had when I was a kid was pure white and mean as all heck to everyone but me and sometimes other smaller kids, dont know why but she hated adults and especialy men. We didnt get her as a baby thou and I dont think she had an easy life before coming to us. I remember my step dad yelling all the time for me to get my damned goat before he put her on the roasting pit, she loved to run him up trees LOL. I want to make sure that whatever we get is not like Whinny LOL. Since we plan to have some other farm animals plus I have horses I want to make sure they all get along too. I will see about ordering that book, I need to read up on thier health issues and stuff also. I would love to be able to get some milk but since I am betting I will be the only one that likes it it might be a hassle to even bother but we will see. Thanks for all the info...


Tom A    Posted 05-24-2003 at 11:02:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
My guess is that before you had her, Whinny had been mis-treated by a man or men. They don't forget easily. Valentine, one of our goats (the Nigerian) was given to us by a lady who loved it but her husband hated it. Valentine would not come near me for quite awhile after we got her, but would come to my wife. One day I caught her and brushed her winter coat out, probably for the first time in her life...took awhile, but you could see she loved it. Now, she comes running to me whenever I come in the barnyard, so they repay kindness with kindness.

As far as milking goes, we've found that how you handle the milk makes a big difference in taste. If you cool it quickly and keep everything very clean, you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between goats milk and whole milk except for a slight extra-creaminess in the goats milk...certainly no flavor difference.

Tom


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