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My big window AC quit
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Lenore SE Texas    Posted 06-02-2003 at 06:43:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well you might know, we are having the hottest May & June in recent history,
my AC decides to quit on me.
So I am looking for a replacement.
It has to be at least 24,000 BTU (2 ton) or up to 30,000.

My old one was a GE and it lasted 13 years.
I think that is pretty good, isn't it?
Anyone have any experience with different brands?
Were they good or bad? Any information would be helpful.
A person cannot live without AC here in south east Texas 9 months out of the year.

I saw a Frigidaire advertised for a good price but dont know anything about them.
I live in an older house and cant afford to put in central air,
so another window unit is my only choice. HELP!!


Linda    Posted 06-03-2003 at 01:04:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
My last small window air conditioner from Walmart isn't worth the money. It's the first and last Goldstar product I'll buy. The fan pushes the cool air about 12 inches and that's it.

I checked at the Best Buy store in the city last summer and they had a good selection of brands I recognized as having been around for a long time, and the prices weren't bad, either. Their selection was better than Home Depot, Walmart and Kmart. It could have been the time of year, though, as our old air conditioner gave out in the middle of the summer.


RayP(MI)    Posted 06-02-2003 at 18:35:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I was a young feller, I worked for a major manufacturer of home refrigeration appliances. I was on final inspection the day that they decided to clean out the repair shop. Counted twenty-three different brands on the line that day. 'Nuff said? Many, many brand names aren't even built by their trade-mark manufacturers, just built to specs. House brands... obviously by contract manufacturers. There are only a few manufacturers of compressors, for example. They are used in many brands.

About twenty years ago, a neighbor friend called me and asked if I wanted an air conditioner. When I arrived he said it was in the garage - it was - all over the garage! I gathered the parts, took it home and determined that the fan motor bearings were worn out. Further research lead me to find that the fan motor was a special capacitor start, and expen$ive. Went to my friendly electric motor shop, found a regular fan motor that fit for about $20. Has been used every summer since - works great. (A GE, by the way.)


Clod    Posted 06-02-2003 at 18:51:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
To the guy from MI.I enjoyed reading your informative post also. I think a company by the name of Roper makes many items.Succh as rireing mowers,Air conditioners and some other appliances for anyone who wants to stick a brand on them.


DHunter n NOLa    Posted 06-02-2003 at 17:13:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lenore, I have had a whole bunch of experience with window type air conditioners with rental property for the last 20+ years. I'm surprised that the GE lasted for 13 years...they're not very good units. The very best window air conditioner on the market for the price is the Whirlpool. The price is relatively low because they make so many of them. They make A/C's that are sold under a lot of different brand names like Kenmore, and now even Maytag. You may be able to have the old one repaired as 'bill b va' suggested but the mechanical efficiency of the new units is so much better than the old ones that you would be much better off just spending the $450 or so and get a new one.


Clod    Posted 06-02-2003 at 17:56:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I liked your answer.i was all for the whirlpool myself.


bill b va    Posted 06-02-2003 at 10:56:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
have some one check out the old one if you haven't already done so . 80% of air conditioner problems are electrical . except for the compressor the electrical problems are inexpensive to repair . example mine quit last week . problem contactor . new contactor $22. 13 years is not old . the gas never wears out but can develope a leak . i have a freezer that is 36 years old and doing fine .


hay    Posted 06-02-2003 at 09:39:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
it is hot for sure here in SE Texas. and awful dry too. no rain for more than a month. anyway, i bought a large (17,000 BTU) FRIEDRICH a/c this spring and it is the worst pile of junk i ever had. it absolutely will not cool when it gets hot outside. that is the last one of this brand i will purchase. going back to sears and get a decent a/c. the last sears lasted more than 11 years.


Clipper    Posted 06-02-2003 at 08:23:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Check out the models offered by Panosonic...I have a big one for my business and it does a great job-quiet too...


Lenore    Posted 06-02-2003 at 09:51:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes Fredriech used to be the cream of the crop.
I have heard other horror stories about the newer ones, so they are not on my list.
I saw two that look good
a Frigidaire 25,000BTU for $500
and a Whirlpool 24,000BTU for $450.
I dont know anything about either brand.


Jimbob    Posted 06-02-2003 at 06:58:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
You may be better off with two new 7000 BTU unless you are cooling one room. A used A/C unit unless only a few years old are a 'crap shoot' if they will last any length of time. Newer units usually use less energy, look at the Energy rating tag. Home Depot, Kmart & Walmart are good places for discount purchasing. I found the best deal at Home Depot for larger A/C units


Clod    Posted 06-03-2003 at 07:48:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
There could be some units that would be built well.Then there are things tha cut their lives short.Such as varible voltage and surges.Or maybe the thing gets full of trash so that the air will not go through the fins. I know a guy who moved to the country and rented a nice house that had a building some 80 feet from the house.He put two new deep freezers in there that he just moved.They both failed.His wife had them hauled off and bought two more new ones.But they didnot work .The problem was that the long wire was not large enough.


Lenore    Posted 06-03-2003 at 08:17:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I really thank everyone for the input.
It really has helped me feel more confident in making a decission.
I have pretty much decided on the whirlpool.
The little Sears window unit I got recently is wonderful.
So if as DHunter said, Whirlpool makes Sear's Kenmores, then it should be real good.
A friend told me she has a larger Kenore and it works great.
So thank you one and all for the information; it really was helpful. :-)


Maggie/TX    Posted 06-03-2003 at 11:26:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Lenore!:) Something was said that triggered another thought about air conditions. The last time I had mine serviced, the service guys took it out of the window and put it on a picnic table outside. They sprayed some kind of cleaner stuff all in it (maybe Greased Lightning or some such) and then got the garden hose with sprayer attachment (hard stream) and hosed the whole thing out. Then you let it dry real good and put it back in and it worked like a new one. They do get clogged with gunk and can and should be washed now and then.


Clod    Posted 06-03-2003 at 13:25:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
I used the big jackhammer compressor in the shop.I ran the hose in here and blowed all the fins sideways.It cleaned it out though.


Clod    Posted 06-04-2003 at 06:50:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
I like to modify things.>> On the airconditioner for windows,This is my latest.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could put 5 LEDs on the AC to know what it is doing.This could save 60 dollar trips by repairmen.each LED takes a resistor.A LED and resistor cost less than 15 cents.A LED is LIGHT EMITTING DIODE.Like the one on the PC shut off switch. But you can get them brighter bigger and several colors.So you hook five LEDs to an air conditioner.On the front panel.Two for the hot wires to compressor hook to the input terminals to tell you the relay sent 110 volt to one terminal and 110 volt to the other = 220 volts.S if you see those lit.The compressor SHOULD be runnning.If only one is lit.You lost one 110 volt supply.But if you watch these you get an idea of how much you light bill is going to be.The compressor uses the current more than fans.If these two fail to light when you turn the thermostat to cold.The relay is suspect. Or thermostat is faulty. But you have one LED for thermostat voltage so that would say good thermostat if it is lit.THAT was three LEDS. So you hook # 4 to the fan motor supply wire that blows toward you inside the house.You hook number 5 to the supply wire at the fan motor that is blowing outside at evaporator. 5 LEDs will tell you a lot about your AC. BUT you can have one to tell you >>>LOW VOLTAGE! This would have the resistor and a ZENEIR diode> 30 Cents .This one (you choose voltage on those as each has whatever you want) Maybe choose 110 volts.This would remain lit as long as the voltage stayed above 110.If it dropped below 110 the LED would go out.That is about when the motors burn out too.Or maybe 100 volts?

So ,,The low voltage LED..You can have a buzzer if you like that buzzes when you have low votage.You need a small relay (all this stuff is cheap at Radio Shack) When you hear the buzzer.You can worry about the cost of the burned out compressor motor.The compressopr motor and compressor is built into one sealed unit because the freon cools the motor to cut cost of COPPER.


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