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Clod    Posted 06-15-2003 at 09:10:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have lived where there was no electricity avalable,nor water or any utilities.The roads were for fourwheel drive in the wet season.I can live that way but in time you find a need for some things that is better served by some of the modern conveniences.For example,Can you get online with your PC ? Is there a phone wire nearby? Can you get online without it being charged long distance?Because I often get into technical things or hobbies and PC has much of the information and sources of parts and tools I need.Otherwise I would have long drives to big cities.Also,Can the delivery truck find you? I had deliveries by UPS trucks when I was doing things.Many hobbies or trades I get into ,you cant buy the specialized items even in fairly large towns so I mail order.UPS will deliver most anywhere but might leave the package with a neighbor down the road if you are not home.Then you might appreciate honest neighbors.I have had A few that were not.Unless you plan to live off the fat of the land you need communications and reliable transportation that runs economically and you can haul some of the larger things you wil need from time to time.Most of all,You need a way to make MONEY.Things you need daily or weekly often cost more away from the cities.Gas and groceries.If you buy land and you are not familiar with the area.You better find out how high the water gets on that property in the wet season.Unless you are a Cajun from south louisiana and like to hunt frogs and crayfish.You might buy a wooded area and think after clearing the trees and brush it will dry from the sunshine.It wont.The best plan is to get a big dozer and dig a large pond so you can use the dirt to build the high areas you hope to spend time in the wet season.Hauling in soil (enough) is expensive.Often one moves to the "country" to get out of stupid restrictions made by those who make a career of restriction production.But these days they are everywhere.There are millions of restrictions,rules and regulations.So you might check those before you put your money down. If anyone has alergies or alergic to certain things of nature(Im not) but some say they are,,So see about that item ahead o the move.If you buy land with the idea to clear a forrest and make all the improvements yourself,Count the cost before you do.I have done that myself.Be prepared for a lot of work and expense.I have cut hundreds of trees with a chainsaw.This makes you very sturdy unless you saw a leg off or saw a tree down on yourself.If you do,You may need medical assistance.You should investigate that out before you require it.If you have a large number of trees you may as well rent a dozer because you will run short on help.Unless you have a lot of free time to do it all yourself.One of the items you need most often is a tractor with a three point hitch with several impliments.You can even make many of those if you have a welding /cutting rig.You can never have too many tools around.Then when the fun times come,Fishing/hunting or outdoor cooking.You may have an oversupply of friends.But often ,if you are lucky,Those friends can assist you with information or loan you a tool you do not have.In the gang of friends you colect.Make sure one is good at outdoor cooking because you consume a lot of energy when you have more land to take care of and more fishing and hunting to do.But if you have to drive to the big city to earn a decient paycheck you spend much of your life on the road.The time seems past that you can make your living from the land.Unless you build some sort of factory.But I only know from my own experiences.


Willy-N    Posted 06-15-2003 at 13:19:22       [Reply]  [No Email]

Well we did it but it took 6 years to finish! No street lights, no freight trucks but UPS makes it to the place. No mail box, dirt road, 12+ miles from a small town. This was bare land and I had to bring in the phone, power and that was a lot of money too. Cost over $8,500.00 just to get the lines in (much more nowdays) not counting the service or hook up materials. You spend time snowed in during the winter but that's OK. Now that I got the buildings & fences done I have to maintain them. Just mowed all the fence lines to day for fire season, hate to have to replace the fences due to a grass fire. Lot of work to build a place in the country. Just getting everything to the site is a job. If you forget a .29 fitting it costs you a 30 mile drive to go get it. We built 3 of the buildings and finished the insides on the rest ourselves. Did all the electrical, plumbing and water systems to save money. Dug all the fence post by hand (around 300+ = a 900' deep hole!)and strung a lot of barb wire to fence the cows in. Nice part is after all the hard work you get to reap your rewards living in the country and I would not trade the place for anything now that it is done. My back and hands got real sore doing it but this is the last time I will build a home site. Now that I am in my 50s it takes longer to do and longer to heal! Is it worth all the work? You bet it is! When your finished you can look back and say a job well done and now for some time on the porch, right after I paint all the buildings with wood sideing again, more mowing, fence repair and another winters worth of wood split and stacked!! Yes the job never ends in the country but that is what keeps you healthy. Don't need to go to the gym to keep in shape either. Mark H.


Clod    Posted 06-15-2003 at 13:36:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
That looks like a fine place you have there Willy.I dont know if you are the one from Washington state or Michigan,The one from Washington has a Dodge power wagon,I saw pics of here.That post driveing thing is not my cup o tea these days.I did that a few years back near Lerado in the rocky country. It would be best for the back to use hydrolics on the back of a tractor or small dozer. A fence can run a long ways if you count length by post pounded.Speaking of gyms.I had to move a friends furnature and refrige,stove ECT,Twice in a year.I seen he had an execise machine and weights.I thought of just letting him do the heavy stuff,I never do that kind of thing because I can find chores with exercise built in them.Mowing in those rocks?? Im from flat mud land here.But a boss took a brush hog up near Austin years ago,Those old folks said ,You cant use a screader here.He didnt understand what they meant.The blade came off and stuck in a tree nearby us.They said.We told you to use a sickle mower.So? What do you use there to mow with Willy?


Willy-N    Posted 06-15-2003 at 13:46:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'M the one from Washington with the Power Wagon. I use the cows for mowing the place but for the fence lines I have a JD Riding mower that works great for getting close and under it a little on both sides. By keeping it cut the fire won't get hot enought to hurt the wire temper, coating, posts and ruin the white fence by melting it. I do have a Massey Ferguson 125 to do the rest of the work with and a few other toys like weed eaters, push mowers, snow blowers, hydraulic wood spliter and such never to many power tools to save work with. I used to live on the West side of the state where it rains all the time but like the dryer weather now. Mark H.


Clod    Posted 06-15-2003 at 13:57:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is a neat old Power Wagon you have Willy. Do you have to take it to the dealer to have the spark plugs changed? Just a woofin ya! I had a Firebird that the airconditioner box had to come out to get number 8 plug in and out.Those early engineers knew that some guy would want to work on those machines one day so made things you could work on with normal handtools.You live even west of Tacoma I guess?It is beautiful up there in that state.I even liked the rain there,,But the snow was a bit deep for me.Dont slide that Power wagon off a mountain pass.I saw you had better tires than the original design for that truck.They were very dangerous on icy highways. I might go down to Picadilly and get some home cooking.You may not have that near you.It is a cafeteria.I burned my food in the stove.I can cook better outdoors than inside for some reason.


Willy-N    Posted 06-15-2003 at 14:07:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I live about 60 miles South of Canada and about 300 miles from the Pacific Coast or 160 miles from the Idaho border. I do have better tires for the Ice and Snow around here and they will get tested this winter. Already tried climing some 45 deg rocks went up no problem in low range. Mark H.


ClodHello Lenore look her    Posted 06-15-2003 at 14:12:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is a good place to be owner of a FWD Willy.Theres a place call Bremerton? Or something like hat near you? I was going to go for food.Lenore turn on MSN messeger! Yahoo quit!


Willy-N    Posted 06-15-2003 at 17:55:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tacoma and Bremertom are on the West Side (Western Washington) of the Cascade Mountian Range and I am on the East Side of the Range in what they call Eastern Washington but it is a great place for haveing a 4X4 lot's of areas to drive around in. Mark H.


magpie    Posted 06-16-2003 at 13:37:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep Willy I know what you mean about a great place for 4 wheelin. My uncle who used to live in S.E. oregon, him and I used to chase antelope with a jeep, it was what they call high desert country, sagebrush, rolling hills a few juniper trees. Of course we had no rollbar or fancy fat wheels or hotrod engines. We just had a great time, I jumped out once I thought it was going to roll, sure got scratched up. I suppose the environmental authorities would take a dim view of that nowadays.


Clod    Posted 06-15-2003 at 18:12:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh yes,Near the Idaho border I think.Have you tried to cross those mountains,I think called Yakima pass? Those are high up there.You are certainly in the country out there.You have a nice state there.I felt real healthy there when I was younger and ran several miles a day.I could climb up those mountains then .These days I avoid speed bumps in the roads.


Willy-N    Posted 06-15-2003 at 19:41:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have went over 4 of the Passes in the Cascades and they are nice drives. Little tricky in the winter and you better have your chains and some emergincy food and stuff just in case you have to wait for the plow to open it up again. Mark H.


Clod    Posted 06-16-2003 at 05:48:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Morning Willy.. You have a nice day there on the farm.Oh yes..That engine in the Dodge power wagon is the same one they had in the 48 Plymoth Coupe i think.Those were the best sounding cars with a spilt manifold and Hollywood mufflers.Nothing else ever sounded near as good.


Lenore    Posted 06-15-2003 at 11:18:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have lived out of town,
but I guess not offically far enough to be called "the country".
In Texas distances here are so different,
living outside a big city like Houston is considered "the country".
Living in a small town like I live in (approx. 6,500) is considered country.
I drive 45 miles into Houston and consider it "going to town".
If you live far out like you speak of, Clod,
it can end up being more expensive than living near a small country town.
My son, Hog Hunter, bought some uncleared land 9 acres,
and it has cost a lot of time and money to get it livable.
He got laid off from his plant job shortly after he bought it.
So his wife, a nurse, is working,
and he is doing manual labor working on his new property,
using his serverance package money to do sewer lines, septic tanks, light poles and meters, etc.
It has not been cheap for sure.
I am sure they will love it when it is all done though.


Clod    Posted 06-15-2003 at 13:05:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure they will love it when it is all done though.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Well,,Does it ever all get done?


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