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Mud Phobia
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Cindi    Posted 06-20-2003 at 14:25:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
A little known fact about my already warped personality is that I have a phobia. It's stupid and dumb but it is just as phobia-ish as the fear of heights. It's the fear of getting stuck in the mud. The lengths I will go to to prevent getting stuck in the mud are generally more damaging than getting stuck in the mud ever could be.

Maybe I had a severe mud trauma as a child, I don't know, but the thought of sinking down into a boggy mire, alone in my truck and helpless to move forward gives me the cold sweats, and every day that passes it's gets muddier and boggier around here.

I just came back from the grocery store. It's been raining all day. The first 3/4 of a mile of dirt road leading back to the house was relatively fear free, but when I hit our section and saw what the bottled water guy did to it with his big old heavy truck, my knees started shakin'.

Oh Lord. Well there was only one thing to do. Hold the wheel straight, floor it, and don't stop until I hit the yard, or sink. So I did that, a little too enthusiastically I might add as I made the prettiest rooster tail I've ever seen, mostly because it's the only one I've ever made. I just got started going good when the neighbor's big red dog came a runnin', probably wondering what all the engine revving was about...

"Oh Lord, doggie, you need to not get in front of me because I am not gonna stop, I will plow you into the mud and not bat an eye doing it."

He stayed safely on the side watching as I slid to the left, slid to the right, did a couple more little rooster tails, and about halfway I'm sure he heard me shriek in terror when I felt the wheels start spinning and losing traction.

I'm here to tell you that it was a white knuckle experience. Fifteen feet from the gate I knew I was home free and I started giggling insanely.

"I made it! I made it!" I whipped into the yard and threw it in park, dancing a jig on the vinyl seat. Whew. Good thing I bought plenty of groceries, because you couldnt pay me enough to try and go down that road again. Not anytime soon anyway.

markct    Posted 06-21-2003 at 12:44:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
yea i know what ya mean about fear of getting stuck, i aint that affraid of getting stuck, have been many times and in many vehicles. just last week when baling hay i managed to sink my ford 8000 tractor up to the axles in mud, and thats pretty deep since the tires are about 6ft tall, after that whole mess everytime i came to a wet spot i just held the differential lock down and prayed till i felt the tires not slipping anymore and then had a sigh of relief once i was thru

Um...    Posted 06-21-2003 at 04:26:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I guess us Yankees need to give y'all some muddin lessons, eh?

First off...NO ROOSTER TAILS...If you are flingin mud, then you are just spinnin your tires...Either get a more agressive tread pattern and learn to use a lower gear or stay out of the mud...When you break traction, you are done...

Sure...Sometimes you can get up to speed, and 'skip' across a muddy spot, but that is not the 'correct' way...The real challenge is to be able to drive for miles in the mud (or snow) under control and in comfort...

A few things to think about...You DO have 4WD, right?...Think (as someone else mentioned) about getting two sets of quick connect chains for your size tires and practice putting them on BEFORE you need them...Think about a rear differential locker for your rig...Mud is a whole lot easier to handle if you do not lose traction with one rear tire at the wrong time...Think about recovery systems...Two 25' lengths of chain and a 1-ton come-along can get you out of most places you get into...A winch is even more betterer (and faster)...A high-lift jack can work wonders too...

Trust me here...Getting stuck in the mud is nothing...Heck...We do it for fun on purpose...My wife and I had to walk 5 miles back to the 'road' once and then 7 more to the nearest phone cuz I did not heed my own advice above...Ran into a small bear and a cow moose on the way back...One of our favourite adventure memories that would have just been filed as another day of 4-wheelin if we had not gotten stuck...Getting unstuck was another adventure the next day...


Salmoneye, who has mud in his veins and whose other car is a Jeep CJ with 31/10.5 tires named "Clifford The Big Red Jeep"...


Cindi    Posted 06-21-2003 at 09:40:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Salmoneye, my biggest drawback is finanacial. I have priced those fine looking mud eating tires but I can't afford them yet, and no I do not have four wheel drive either yet. It took me two years to get from a family minivan to a pickup truck of any kind.

I know I do it all wrong, but specially the rooster tail part. I just looked at the stretch of road before me and had to get thourgh it as fast as possible.

The one good thing though is that I don't inconvenience anybody but us as we are the only ones who drive the really bad stretch. We're last on the end of the road. Ther rooster tail part is at the very front, there is a los spot that needs a drain pipe because it holds water.

Ludwig    Posted 06-21-2003 at 09:51:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Salmoneye is right to a point, but I figure down south you don't really need 4wd. A differental locker would go alot further for $300 instead of the cost of 4wd. Up here a locker can be a problem in the snow and ice.
Also I'm guessing you've got no weight in the back of the truck, so you're starting at a tremendous disadvantage...

Slow down, you keep hitting that mud fast and you'll break something, and that something will be EXPENSIVE. Which would you prefer, stuck in the mud or broke down in the mud?

You know the only way to get over this. Thats it, get stuck a couple times on PURPOSE! Yep, put that truck into low gear and idle it into that bad spot fully INTENDING to get stuck. Then get it back out. Do it yourself, get out your jack and a piece of 2x8, put the 2x8 on the ground and jack the truck up, then get out your other pieces of 2x8 and put them under the drivewheels and drive out. Then get stuck and do it all again. Once you've gotten good at recovery getting stuck won't be nothing.

Ludwig is right...    Posted 06-21-2003 at 11:59:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
If all you have is a 2WD pickup, then get it stuck and unstuck till you are comfortable with it...Then get yourself some weight in the rear end...They sell 'Tube Sand' up here...It comes in an agressive plastic mesh bag with a poly water proof bag inside that with the sand inside both...They weigh 70# each and are flexible...Some people put them right on the wheel-wells in the back where they push straight down on those tires...I usually have 4 in my pickup in the winter...I drove my 86 Dodge 2WD all last winter and seldom spun my tires...

And you only need 2 agressive tires...In the back...And they are not that expensive...You can get agressive no name 235/75 R15's here for less than $100 for a pair at Tire Warehouse...Or you can look for a pair of used name brand for even less at times...


Clod    Posted 06-21-2003 at 07:41:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'll have to hand it to you guys up north..If you guys come down to the Gulf coast area and there is ice or snow on the roads ,(Which happens only once in a blue moon)You take your life into your hands if you get on the highway and mingle with the rest here,We get downright dangerous.

Salmoneye    Posted 06-21-2003 at 09:28:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Funnier than all heck the first tiny snowfalls here...Seems as though everyone (read FlatLanders there) forgets how to drive over the summer...By Christmas everyone gets back into the swing though, and remembers all they forgot...Towtruck guys love the first few storms...Tis their bread and butter and their 'Christmas Bonus' all in one...

Any time you want to try mud, head up here during Mud Season which usually is in full swing by the first week of April...All the backroads turn to bogs...For the best snow driving come in February, after the January thaw...Of course, here in Vermont...You can get both experiences within a matter of hours if you are lucky...


Ludwig    Posted 06-21-2003 at 09:54:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
We were going ice fishing one day in Feb one year and the temp came up to 65! All the dirt roads turned into slop and you drove palming the wheel lock to lock with the back end of the truck kicking out to each side. On the lake I got the job of driving the 4wheeler because I was the only one with a gentle enough touch on the throttle to get it moving. We'd pile the whole crew on the racks and some would push the sled and it'd get moving with much scrabbling. Even without the sled it was hard to get moving and you'd better have some momentum for hills!
It was fine fishing in our teeshirts too.

Jimbob    Posted 06-20-2003 at 21:12:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
For what it is worth, 'mind over matter' type thinking does not work on strong phobias either.

My friend could walk sttel beams 20 stories in the air- no problem. One day, can't figure out how this could happen, my friend is walking the steel & sees a rat on the other side also wanting to cross. He had a rat phobia. He collapses on to the beam & it takes an hour to talk him back. That is how strong a phobia can be.

Clod    Posted 06-21-2003 at 08:01:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jimbob,,I find that interesting what you said up there.Some people are extremely brave in one area and fear takes possesion of them in some other situation.One man might fly a fighter jet and live on the edge of disaster thinking nothing of it but yet afraid to swim in muddy water.When I was younger I sand blasted offshore oil platforms walking out on 2 1/2 inch pipes 80 feet above the pipes below like an acrobat.But now I get a strange feeling just looking off the ledge of a high building. I guess when I was younger the older guys caused me to think I was invinceable and could do anything they did.It just took awhile to find out that fear, sometimes ,Is a healthy emotion that contributes to long life. OH BOY~~ The boss just called,,,Got work,,

Jimbob    Posted 06-21-2003 at 12:31:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am somewhat afraid of heights, but not a phobia. Still can not figure how that rat got up top of the Ren-Cen (now GM headquarters) in Detroit!

DeadCarp    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:13:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well you got away with that one - i once had a theory about melting thin ice on tar but lived out west then. Well, years later one winter nite back here, we were returning the few miles from my sister's in Mom's Buick and i got brave. Heck we're going about 10, within walking distance of Mom's, this thing has an automatic floor shift so reverse is handy, it's only a little sleet and there's nice dry tar a fraction of an inch under that - warm tires should get thru that pronto right? After briefy explaining my theory, i hit reverse and punched the throttle. WRONG! I tell ya it was like steering a dam hovercraft thru that lonely intersection - the whole car just drifted wherever it wanted, Suzn's laughing her buttoff and we're about to enter a mailbox across the street! (we did - i don't think the guy was up!) So be careful with those experiments :)

Ron,    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:26:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had to laugh at that one.

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:33:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bet DC was not laughing at that time. That is a strange feeling ,,out of control skids.YIPE!!! HERE WE GO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey,,Im going to skid over to that haystack and get some shuteye guys,,Good night,.

ron,    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:46:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
take care, rest well.

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:50:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ok,,Same to you guys,,You folks get here late in the night..Are you shore im not talking to a fleet of hoot owls?

WallSal55    Posted 06-20-2003 at 18:48:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't believe you are alone in your mud phobia.
We would sell Christmas trees far out in a grove. Folks would get stuck in the mud, when thawing temps would melt snow.
They practically scream, "What are we going to do?" They didn't think there was a way out.
"Simple, my dad's gonna pull ya out w/the

Clipper    Posted 06-20-2003 at 17:59:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Get yerself a team of mules and a wagon....I can see you giving some cop heck cause he's writing you a ticket.....heh heh heh

Ron,ar    Posted 06-20-2003 at 15:55:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't you live in Florida? Seems to me ya ought to be used to mud close to the coast.Hope ya'll don't live close to the swamps.Lotsa mud there .

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 18:09:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
A set of mud chains on the back tires makes a muddy road more fun,,If you can steer it away from the ditches.But it likes to go where ever it wants if no ruts are there yet.

Cindi    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:17:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I NEVER get used to it becau it's only a few months out of the year when it's really bad. Tropical season is getting wound up and it will be this way pretty much on and off for the next two to three months, which gives me a nine month hiatus from bg hel*. Last year at picking time it was pretty wet but that is not the norm. Jill is due home any minute and I fully expect to have her come in the house barefooted with mud up to her knees, having had to leave her truck at the end of the road. Sigh.

Cindi    Posted 06-20-2003 at 23:15:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
What was I thinking. Walk? My daughter? When she was five minutes late on her curfew I got nervous so I got out the tractor and went looking. Sure enough, there she was at the end of the road, her 'yota pickup half in and half out of the ditch. Picked her up and tenderly drove her home, clinging to the side of the tractor.

"I didn't think you'd come!"

"I wouldn't leave my baby girl out here in the mud."

And to think she offered to 'drive me' through the bog earlier becuase she knows of my phobia. Let me do it mom I won't get us stuck. Need to teach that girl a thing or two about rooster tails.

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:29:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
had a model A stripped down coupe.It looked sorta like a hotrod .We chizeled the top off to make a convertable,Took the bumpers off,the fenders too.My pal and I was going down a muddy road to the river to fish,There was a tree ahead and ruts ran on both sides but my front wheels took the middle ruts.I slamed the brakes on but it just went faster.The radiator and fan collided when the tree slammed into it.We walked five miles back to the highway then about ten more to the house.I eventually learned to drive in mud.The walking part is the best teacher.

you know what they say    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:32:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
walking ain't crowded!

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:41:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
If they say that where youre from ,,They have done a fine study on this subject.I have thought it over and find they are totally correct.

Ron,Ar    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:24:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I sorta know what ya mean about leaving the vehicle at the top of the hill. Lived in Broaddus Tx once, so far back we had to pump daylight in. It was not a question of "are we gonna get stuck" it was "where are we gonna be stuck this time". Wife and kids called it the trauma center.

Clod    Posted 06-20-2003 at 19:45:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mud roads made a short trip an adventure.Often no fenders on the old hoopies and the mud went straight up then down on the passengers..That was not so bad,,But driveing down a road that had cattle previously was not the way to get compliments of you new perfume when you got to the drugstore.

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