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Lawn tractor update
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Andrew    Posted 06-30-2003 at 20:17:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for all of the advice on lawn tractors. It all helped a lot. I decided in the end to go with a John Deere. They have a new series this year called the "100 series", which are actually affordable without losing quality (basically, it's their "Scott" brand re-done and updated). I took a look around elsewhere, but couldn't find anything for the same relative price that matched what JD was offering. I ended up going with the L120 - 20HP B&S with a 48" deck. About the only thing I wasn't that impressed with was the completely encased barings on the deck, but it seems it's not that common anymore to do it the other way - and quite a bit more pricey to get a deck with that feature. It gets here Wednesday. I tried to get it here today so I could go riding on Canada Day, but they weren't going for it. I just hope it arrives with a good 'ol hick JD mesh-backed ball cap. :-)

markct    Posted 07-01-2003 at 09:59:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
lower priced without losing quality? personaly i think JD will stick there name on most anything these days, was once a name associated with quality, but today i think that is slowly changing, no ones fault but deeres, i cant say i have ever owned a deere tractor, had a few lawn tractors that were JDs but they wernt any different than any other cheap mower, glad i hadnt bought them new, just picked them up from different places cheap. the one thing i own that truely is a JD is my old JD hay rake, its never given me a bit of trouble too. but personaly i dont think that ya should make the association that deere means quality, it just means a common name more or less, the only thing they make in this country anymore are tractors in the larger HP ranges, big farm tractors, all the rest come from who knows where

Andrew    Posted 07-01-2003 at 10:53:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
All of the reviews I read and checked always had JD up at the top. I did shop around, and for the money I spent, I'm confident I got the best deal around. A couple of places I visited (Kubota, Toro) just gave up when I said I was considering the 100 series from John Deere and told me to go get it. They can't compete. The guy at Kubota said that they Kubota is either going to have to get out of the smaller lawn tractor business or come up with something new to compete. I also went to Sears, but the most comparable tractor I could find there was only a couple hundred dollars cheaper (in worthless, Canadian dollars) and it wasn't near the quality of the Deere.

As I mentioned, I am keeping my old Toro Wheelhorse (about 15 years old). My plan is to start tinkering with the engine, fix it up, and get it going again. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, which makes it really hard for me to get tractors used, so I'm hoping that by playing with the Toro, I'll be able to buy used (cheaper) in the future..

John    Posted 09-01-2003 at 11:59:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I purchased a L120 about two months ago. The first time I cut grass it didn't cut all the grass.

I contacted the dealer where i purchased and they told me to bring it back. After a week I got it back and it was cutting worse.

I took it back the second time and after a week and half I got it back, but it is even worse.

I have to go over the grass two or three times to get it all cut.

I have a Sears craftmans 14hp mower and I can cut the grass in 2 hours and a half and it cutrs the first time around.

It takes me almost 4 hours to cut it with the L120.

Please let me know how yours cuts.


Tom A    Posted 07-01-2003 at 05:52:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
congrats!! Hope it does a good job for ya, and lasts you many years.

Would you please give us some feedback on it after you've had it a few months? My experience has been stuff is either totally problem-free when new and only develops probbies when it gets worn; or it has some problems early on that get corrected with relative ease; or--like my stupid Cub Cadet--it is riddled with problems and never really gets much better. I'd like to know what category your Deere turns out to be in for when I'm in the market next.

congrats again!

Andrew    Posted 07-01-2003 at 10:54:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Will do. The discussion boards here were really helpful in making the decision so I feel I owe it to keep things updated..

Jimbob    Posted 07-01-2003 at 04:09:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bought the JD L100 & could not be more pleased. You are corrct in that the 2002 year Scotts was updated to the JD 'L' series. This includes an updated hydrastatic drive system & other improvements. As with my lawn tractor, I will replace the deck bearings with sealed units from Detroit Ball Bearing when they are worn out. The mower deck is very nice for wet grass as it does not clog up easy like some other models. The JD 'L' series steering & handling is also nice.

The B&S 20hp engine is of superior design as well. I like these engines & prefer them to the Kohler OHV designs. I have not heard one negative item on all the internet site about the newer B&S Intek engines. That statement is not true with Kohler in that some Kohlers backfire when shut-off after operating for a while & the Kohler vertical shaft engines only had a lifter issue in that air would get trapped causing a tick, tick, tick sound. Kohler has resolved the issue. Kohler does manufacture a durable engine, no doubt. I simply like the B&S better.
Enjoy your new tractor, great choice.

Andrew Cheyne    Posted 07-01-2003 at 10:57:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the information. The B&S engine was something I was a little bit worried about. I had actually been hearing better things about the Kohler engines.. probably luck of the draw. I think I was a little bit worried as my old tractor has an 11HP B&S engine in it that is giving me nothing but trouble. Then again, that tractor has been mowing 2.5 acres for 15 years now.. I guess it's allowed to be a little bit tired!

Be happy with your BS!    Posted 07-01-2003 at 11:09:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
My Cub Cadet has a Kohler and while it runs very well, parts are pricey.

For example, the fuel pump failed at 101 hours (warranted through 100 hours...coincidence or fabulous engineering??). A metal tab inside had broken, I could have replaced it for a few pennies but the part is not available separately. Only sold as a complete pump assembly--$76!!

I've got a lot of equipment with B&S engines, most but not all are old and well-used. Never had a problem with any of them, always been able to get parts reasonably.


bob ny    Posted 07-01-2003 at 04:02:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
our tractor club is raffeling off a jd l-100 this sept at our show and i got to pick it up at the dealer it is very impressive i don't think we paid as much as you did but the name alone is good for ticket sales. oh weah i also picked up second prize an electric gator for kids ( have to essamble itday) good luck on your new toy

It better...    Posted 07-01-2003 at 03:19:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Come with more than a ball cap if they charge what the do here for em...

Salmoneye, who is still using his 13 year old AgWay that cost $25 delivered...

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