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Need gizmo help
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DeadCarp    Posted 07-03-2003 at 19:39:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've run into a slight problem and decided there must be a million easier ways to solve it, so here goes: I (almost) have a little garden tractor sized backhoe built, and want to mount it on wheels. Like behind a trailer or something that i can park and forget about. As a working unit, the thing will be 4 inches off the ground and need the axle (or at least a wheel) way up front. Of course, i'll be towing it down a road eventually, so i'd want to haul it at least 8 inches off the road and need the axle kinda under the backhoe itself. So far i've thought about using a sliding axle on rails ... any better plans?
To recap, while in operation the thing will be supported by the outriggers and whatever wheel is toward the front. While being towed, the front can be carried by a ball hitch and the back by wheels.
BTW, it WILL have hydraulic outriggers if that helps ------


screaminghollow    Posted 07-04-2003 at 02:52:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
how much towing down the road? if only occasional, you could try a removeable tongue which mounts under the hoe end of the thing. maybe a reciever hitch sleeve in that four inch space. I'd put two holes for the pins. then instead of the piece that slides in with a ball, make a piece that slides in with a hitch socket. it will be a removeable trailer tongue and your wheels won't have to be moved at all. Whenever you want to move it, slide in your tongue, fasten with the cross pins and hook up.


JDK    Posted 07-03-2003 at 22:25:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
My thoughts tend toward a jacking axle,as found on farm equiptmnt such as hay conditioners,haybines etc,wheel spindles are mounted on"legs" at end of "axle beam",which is rotated hydraulically or with screwjack(s)to raise or lower both wheels,therefore raing or lowering the unit.


buck    Posted 07-03-2003 at 21:36:52       [Reply]  [No Email]

Well you really don't have to move the wheels at all. It is just a matter of weight distribution. With the hoe in working pisition it tips to the rear and supported by outrigers and the two tires. In a towing position the hoe is turned forward putting the needed weight on the tongue/hitch portion. Sounds like a nice project. What will the total weight be.


DeadCarp - weight?    Posted 07-04-2003 at 15:02:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
the backhoe is supposed to weigh about 350 pounds, haven't chosen the motor and pump yet so i'll have to wait to balance the thing. The rest is my weight, fuel and frame -- maybe 1000 pounds running.


Clod    Posted 07-03-2003 at 20:11:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I dont really understand the explanation yet.But do you notice the 18 wheelers sliding fifth wheel?That design works..But I will try to read this again to get the exact idea you have put forth.You dont do like I have done #1 Weld axle width with only hubs on,,not remembering the rims set in closer to frame.>>#2 Not perfectly toed in.


Clod    Posted 07-03-2003 at 21:00:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Get heavy wall pipe..One slides over the other.attach axle to outside pipe that slides.The longer welded to frame pipe allows the shorter axle pipe to slide ,Then drill holes for position locking pins.Use the bucket of the back hoe to move the axle when you adjust position. Well,, ?? You asked for suggestions.


DeadCarp - picture    Posted 07-03-2003 at 21:06:51       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here's something like i need :)


Clod    Posted 07-03-2003 at 21:35:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are you going to have springs on the axles?You might run into stability prob when you are digging.But Im sure you would find a way around that.The cheap solution seems to be a pipe over a pipe so the axle can slide.With springs you raise the heigth .You must know a great deal of tricks already to get your drawing placed here.That is a trick I wish I was capable of.Keep us informed of your progress.That kind of thing is interesting to me..Got a job in the morning ..Have a nice 4th pal..Night yall.


Why Not...    Posted 07-04-2003 at 04:39:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just make the outriggers tall enough to lift the whole axle (tires) off the ground...

Or will that make it so you can not dig as deeply as you are designing for?

Salmoneye


DeadCarp    Posted 07-04-2003 at 15:07:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well the outriggers could lift the tires off the ground - would be okay except when digging deep, and that leaves me needing stability up front yet.


Salmoneye    Posted 07-04-2003 at 17:06:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hmmm...

A couple of the trailer hitch jacks off of boat trailers?



DeadCarp    Posted 07-04-2003 at 04:10:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wasn't too hard to post the picture - well first i drew it in paint and named it.

Once you have a picture in your computer file, you need to get it on the net and the Photo Gallery does that. So then i just sent it to the photo gallery by following the directions. Once it showed up there, i clicked the right mouse button, then clicked "Properties" and copied the web address (everything from http on thru the file name) that showed up there.

You guys have a great 4th too - unless you had a 5th on the 3rd. :)


Clod    Posted 07-04-2003 at 20:16:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks DC..I know how now..Lenore put the island fishing camp there to teach me how.The wind didnt like the camp there so it flew away. Keep us posted on the machine.


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