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Pole shed lifting
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old fart    Posted 07-05-2003 at 06:38:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Any good ideas to support a smaller pole shed when a person lifts it up. Also is a person safe to plant poles in the ground next to existing poles to fasten to when it is lifted. The shed is 30x40 and in good condition other than the base of the poles are getting bad and would like to raise it up about three feet. Can not afford the big dollar crews. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Have a great weekend, looks good here in northern Minnesota.


DeadCarp    Posted 07-05-2003 at 07:06:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well you're going to need some beams and blocks to support it either way, and they're not free and the poles aren't the problem, the bases are. The poles don't need to be treated, only the part that's near ground level, right? So why not just replace the bases? I'd go around and work like 2 at a time, lag a good sturdy plank to the inside maybe kneehigh to carry that weight, nail some temporary 2x4s on the poles above it, get some weight on that, whack off those coupla poles and be free to fiddle with what's left. leave the plank long enough to block where you'll have room to replace the bases, pour mud bases or whatever you want. I'd consider mud bases like setting 12-inch cement blocks on a mud footing and putting straps in the grout. If you want wood again, as long as you add long splice plates to both sides they'll behave.


DeadCarp    Posted 07-05-2003 at 07:10:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh shoot - NOW i read the part about lifting it 3 feet :) Oh well, can you get by with raising the door height instead of lifting the whole shed?


oldfart    Posted 07-05-2003 at 08:30:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
DeadCarp- Thanks for the ideas, The treated part above ground I never thought of, definitely makes sense.We are blessed here with a deep frost line and it has moved some of the poles out of place besides. Thanks again


Les...fortunate    Posted 07-05-2003 at 06:54:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you cross brace it to make it as rigid as you can and it's already a good rugged structure, you ought to be able to safely cut the poles off, one by one and jack it little by little, one pole at a time. What are you going to set it one when you're all done? I'm assuming you don't particularly want to raise it up much. Are you going to put sono tubes under the poles? If so, just make some cribbing and do them one at a time. I don't think it would be dangerous unless you jacked it way out of shape.
If you're going to replace the whole poles, you're on your own. That's out of my league.


old fart    Posted 07-06-2003 at 11:21:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks everyone for the ideas, Question what is sono tubes?


old fart    Posted 07-05-2003 at 09:09:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Les, my plans originally were to put a pole along side of each one app. 6ft above the height of where the old pole would be cutoff, plus the depth that I would go down in the ground. Then I planned to bolt the old poles to the new ones when I was done. My thought was that I could use a cable or two around both poles and use that as a sinching (sp)device as I jacked it up. By leaving it with a little slack I think it would bind on the cable so a person could move down and jack another spot. Your cement tubes might be a better idea in the ground and base the poles off that. Need to check the cost of tubes and look into it. Thanks for your ideas.


Les    Posted 07-05-2003 at 10:34:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a pole shed that my son built a couple of years ago. It's about the same size as yours. There are a total of 6 poles. Three of them are old utility poles which are set in the ground(I work for an electric coop so I have a good supply) and the other three on the eaves side are set on sono tubes.
Unfortunately, my son didn't make sure it was square and the upper left hand corner is out a good foot and a half. Now he and his wife have split, she has the house and he's not around to finish cobbing up a roof for the corner that is screwed up. Hopefully I can hire a handyman to cob something up before it starts to rot.
It sure is great to have a nice big shed. It's for firewood but I also have two of my tractors in it right now because there's hardly any wood in it. The roof is about 18' at the high side and 9' on the eaves side.


Capp    Posted 07-05-2003 at 14:09:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you got tin on the roof you could take a piece of it loose and put your poles in the ground what ever way you choose, and then get two floor jacks and raise up each corner a foot at a time, then secure the pole to the roof, let the jack down and go up another foot. Be sure and secure it good before you let the jack down. Then you can put the tin back on and there you have it. Take care.
Capp


Clod    Posted 07-05-2003 at 17:37:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
To add to the confusion..Do any of you use track jacks and chains? That is the typical thing to do around here.Long bolts to bolt oak 2x10s hold the poles and you can set blocks under those as you raise it.


Clod    Posted 07-05-2003 at 17:39:51       [Reply]  [No Email]

These jacks


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