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Need source for utility poles
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Lynn Kasdorf- Leesburg, V    Posted 07-09-2003 at 11:00:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm trying to build a large tractor shed on the cheap, and would love to find some green treated 20' utility poles. I'm thinking these should be significantly cheaper than 6x6 pressure treated poles from the lumber yard.

Of course, when I tried the "front door"- calling the phone company service dept, they checked and transferred and came to the conclusion that they cannot give them out any more due to health concerns.

There are so many of these things around, there MUST be a way to get a few, either new or used. I need a "back door"...

Anybody have a clue where to start?

Thanks.


screaminghollow    Posted 07-10-2003 at 11:58:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
We have Verizon telephone up here, I called the company and was told no, not available. The got to know my neighbors, one is a forman on a telephone company repair crew. I get lots of 10 to 12 foot long pieces for fence posts, hitching rails, landscape timbers, etc. Costs me a few cases of beer per year. Got 20 or so piled next to the barn right now. Trouble is, the've been shortened by drunks' automobiles.


Charles(Mo)    Posted 07-09-2003 at 16:40:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
I work for an electric cooperative, and I change out poles all the time. Like it was stated below, the property owner gets first dibs. If they don't want them, we haul them into the office. We give them away free of charge. When we change out poles that are in the woods, like forestry land, we just leave them lay. Been doing this forever, never been a problem.

Charles


Larry 8N75381    Posted 07-09-2003 at 16:20:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Lynn,

I got the pole I needed for a temporary electrical hook up from Southern States in Front Royal. It looks just like the one that belongs to the power company, that is in my yard with a yard light on it, just shorter because I didn't need the height. Think mine was 25 feet. Your local Southern States should be able to get you as many as you need.

People need temporary electrical poles all the time. They are put up during construction as a place to put the meter/breaker box until the permament structure is built. If you can't get one thru your Southern States, ask at an electrical supply house where the electricans get their temporary poles..

Regards,
Larry


Les...Hehheh    Posted 07-09-2003 at 12:38:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I got some corkers right in my yard waiting for the right project.
Whoever said forget the phone company is right. They are scared to death of liability so they take all their removed poles, chip them and burn them (so I've been told). I work for an electric cooperative. For the most part, it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time. We do not charge for them. If the landowner whose property they were on wants them, he has first dibs.
Put an ad in the local Pennysaver/Shopper. You might find somebody who is hoarding them, hoping to sell them to somebody like you.


VADAVE    Posted 07-09-2003 at 11:50:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Forget the phone company. Try the power company that is where I got mine to build my buildings. I was able to choose creosote or green. What you are getting are poles these crazy Northern Virginia drivers hit. Be careful though those green poles split real bad. I prefer the blackest creosote poles I can get, better rot protection, then keep em dry and the dirt surface and they will out last the metal.


buck    Posted 07-09-2003 at 11:42:58       [Reply]  [No Email]

To be honest with you I would bite the bullet and use material that is approved for construction. Sooner or later you will have to deal with the disposal of the used utility poles either with the sale of your property or when they ultimately fail. I recently had a very difficult time getting rid of some used cross ties. To tell you the truth I do not want anything on my property that is considered a hazardous material


Red Dave    Posted 07-09-2003 at 11:24:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Around here all the older poles were treated with creasote preservative. Nowadays, creasote is banned and the utilities have to use something else.
They have to follow the waste disposal laws or face huge fines if they get caught doing otherwise. If they give you a pole, they still own all the liability that may arise from that pole's use, including any contamination that may leach out of it, forever. If somebody claims that a pole released a contaminant 25 years from now, and could prove where the pole came from, the company may be on the hook for liability. The utility may win or lose the case, but they would still have to bear the cost of litigation no matter what. Companies have been burned by this over and over and most will no longer take the chance on it. At least not officially.
If you know someone who works for the utility, you can sometimes find out where they put them after removal and obtain them "unofficially". There are getting to be fewer and fewer employees willing to risk their jobs by being "good guys" though. I'm not saying any of this is "right", or as it should be, but it's how things are.
By the way, I work for a utility.


DeadCarp    Posted 07-09-2003 at 11:21:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ask around wherever they're replacing the old poles, they usually offer them to the landowners for like $10 each. Some guys buy them and have spares :)


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