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Cindi    Posted 07-12-2003 at 11:52:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I want to set up a holding tank for water. For when the power is out or some such thing, for my animals that don't have access to the pond.

I want to collect rain water in it and then when I have to water them by hand I can just turn a valve and fil tubs for them. How does water keep in a containment system like that? Dose it have to be treated? How long will rain water be good, if the tank is sitting in the sun?

Is there an expiration date on rain water? The tank will be designed so that it ALWAYS collects rain water, and will have an overflow system. Anybody know anything about this?

Ludwig    Posted 07-13-2003 at 19:43:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do a google for "rainwater catchment" and maybe one for "cistern".
This stuff is getting more common as a way to not need a well. On Bermuda for instance all their water is caught rainwater as theres no source of groundwater on the island.
Your cistern will have to be shaded from the sun, the heat from sunlight will promote algae growth. Clod's right that skeeters will also be somewhat of a problem, but thats not insurmountable.
I presume you'll be catching off the roof, in which case you'll also want some sort of system to discard the first few (five maybe?) gallons of water to get rid of contaminents.
Then you'll need a filter of some sort. For drinking water folks usually use a UV filter, but since this is for animals and for when the power is out I'd guess a cannister filter of some sort would probably work.

Unfortunately this is not likely to be a cheapo proposition, figure $2500-$3000. It'd be cheaper to pump up from the pond with a handpump. I can't imagine you've got much lift from the pond to where your animals are, your state's pretty much flat right? If the height is low you can put your pump up at the waterer, if theres some slope put it down at the pond. Get one of those crank over fluid transfer pumps from Northern Tool. Should work great. Maybe cost $100, probably less.

Blue Duck    Posted 07-13-2003 at 05:55:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
NO NO NO NO NO...DONT USE CHLORINE!!!!. I only say that cause I cant stand the thought of putting in a chemical that is good for bleaching out your clothes. Your best bet would be to go to a health food store and get a bottle of FOOD GRADE Hydrogen Peroxide (30% H2O2) not the medicine cabinet stuff. I super oxygenates the water and kills bacteria, and other junk as well as preserving your water. Use this wasrt on your plants too...youll see s mirical. Also you may want to add a screened basket filled with charcoal (you can get this charcoal from a pet supply store that carries fish) to your water intake pipe. Good luck with your sistern.

masoud    Posted 12-29-2003 at 12:25:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
production technology of h2o2 in iran and buy machinery h2o2

Ludwig    Posted 07-13-2003 at 19:47:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually h2o2 denaturates the protiens in the bacteria, essentially it eats them.
I can't see how you could "super oxygenate" with it, super hydrate maybe... The extra o2 would just gas off.

The amount of bleach you'd use to treat drinking water would be relatively small, like 2% or less, and frankly about every municipal watersupply there is uses a clorination system of some sort. If you think its wierd to use something that could bleach clothes, remember you're trying to KILL bacteria and virui, you want something deadly.

Clod    Posted 07-12-2003 at 11:58:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
They will get things in them mosquito larve? You know,,Dogs get heart worms from the rainwater in cans and bowls..I bet there is a treatment for it..Clorine was used by the Army..It didnt kill me (yet) .Cisterns on houses get several problems like that.So you need to hope an expert drops in here.Im just telling you to be aware.

Cindi    Posted 07-12-2003 at 12:04:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's really only August through September or October that we run the risk of really severe lightning damage to the pump or extended power outages. Even if I just collect it until an emergency comes up an then dump some chlorine in it. I just need to have a plan B. Something besides toting water by hand from the pond. Nothing will set your teeth on edge faster than carting water to a pig and dumping it in a tub only to have him dump it out to roll in it. Grrrr.

Clod    Posted 07-12-2003 at 12:11:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lady,,This is the 20th Century ( I think?) Anyhow.. Do not tote water in a bucket.There are pumps, and garden hose is cheap.Hogs have no respect for human labor,,They are doing that just for grins. Makeor buy you a pump.Your backbone will not easily be replaced by ordinary surgeons

Cind    Posted 07-12-2003 at 15:06:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
yep yep, good advice.

Clod    Posted 07-12-2003 at 15:45:09       [Reply]  [No Email]

Look at this..A solar powered water pump.Im sure a car batt is near.Better is boat battery.But if you use your head you can save your back.Solar cells need only a diode to prevent the battery going dead at dark times.But you can use a vehicle and cables to run a 12VDC pump to water pigs.

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