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Cindi    Posted 07-22-2003 at 09:10:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
a case of the dirty behind. I've lost five adults and one baby. I just got back from giving them their second round of pncln and ivomec. This started when we turned them out in the grove. Any other suggestions? Seven out of ten are showing the symptoms. One seems to have pulled through, is much more active, but still has the squirts.


rachel    Posted 04-30-2008 at 16:20:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i have a 5 year old paint who has this problem, well sort of. he has normal stool but will squirt or dribble liquid out of his rear. some days nothing other its all the way down to his toes. did anything help your goats or was it nothing like my problem. this has been going on now for about a year on and off. thanks rachel


screaminghollow    Posted 07-22-2003 at 20:24:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hard to say, diet, coccidiosis. I don't think poisoning would give them the "squirts." As I recall, the treatment for coccidiosis is oxytetracycline. I get some 18% medicated calf starter and give it to em. It's the same medicine they give calves for scours. It is not the same organism that causes coccidiosis in chickens, although related, chickens can't give it to your goats and vice versa. Some farm supply stores carry gallon jugs of pink "bismuth" medicine. Sort of an shopper club size Pepto Bismol, which will also work on some goat ailiments. Just that Pepto is so expensive for goats. We had a similar thing happen when we last rotated pastures. Three or four (of the twenty) got the poops ad very lethargic. We put them in the stall at night, and turned them out for gradually longer periods of time and all made it, Took about four days.


farmerwilly    Posted 07-22-2003 at 20:23:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
go to goatworld.com there u will find a link for goat911 anybody with goats should have this link in their favorites....they have a staff that monitors it 24/7 and will email u back shortly....id stop the wormer ivomec they dont need the strain of that at this time....any anti diarea med like pepto will work couple spoons...get some vit a in them too..... goat 911 will help but give them all the info u can in first sending....good luck


Be Phlatt    Posted 07-22-2003 at 12:24:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
This site may help you !Hope you get it under control.


Greg    Posted 07-22-2003 at 11:52:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Cindi,
Try greatgoats.com
They have a forum that deals a lot with sick goats.

Greg


RichZ    Posted 07-22-2003 at 10:24:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yikes, Cindi, this is terrible. I know you've had problems with getting vets to come over to your farm for goats. A vet would be your best bet, but I know you may not be able to get one to come over.

A lot of things could cause this, such as toxic plants, a sudden change in food, infection, parasites.

If your vet won't come over, would he/she at least agree to let you bring over some fecal samples? That would probably be the best place to start. I would do that immediaitely.

Are there any other symptoms?

Rich


Cindi    Posted 07-22-2003 at 11:22:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
You're right Rich the vets are too busy here. I will see about bringing in a fecal sample.


The thing about it is....    Posted 07-22-2003 at 10:24:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
The whole purpose for establishing this herd is to have them run the grove and clean up as much as they will. There's no way to identify and eliminate every weed that might cause them distress.

I know it sounds hard, but I only know of one way to acclimate them to the area, and that's by trial and error, on their part.

If I put them back on pasture then they are pretty well useless for the purpose they were intended. I guess the real question is, if they have eaten something that makes them sick, I'm assuming they won't eat it again. But to treat them for gastric distress, is immodium pretty much the solution? Every day that passes I am more inclined to think that this is less of a 'bacteria' and more of a 'bad weed' situation.

When I was out there this morning they were all eating and all drinking, except one juvenile nanny who seemed in pretty bad shape.

What other way is there to teach a goat what is good to eat and what is not?


plant poisoning is rare    Posted 07-22-2003 at 10:33:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
in goats.

It does happen, but not often because of the way they eat...a little of this, a little of that and they do normally learn.

Having all your goats get sick at once, suddenly, is not normal and not something to be trifled with.

They won't "learn" or "acclimate" if they're dead.

Goats are great brush clearers; mine have done wonders here.
But yours isn't a normal situation, and a vet call is probably the only way to find out what the problem is and fix it before you have no animals left.

Tom A


Greg    Posted 07-22-2003 at 09:57:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We had one a couple of week ago that got too much grain and it gave her the squirts too. I have found that if their diet changes too fast or they get too much of something that they donít get often this can happen. Just like people they can dehydrate quickly and become ill.
I went to the store and bought a big bottle of Imodium and gave her two tablespoons and two more four hours later. Put her on straight grass hey and the next day there was a big improvement. She was normal by the third day. I would run this by your vet before trying it just to be sure that there is not another problem. Body temp is a good thing to find out too before calling the vet. You know what that means.

I have found that if we want to graze them we need to work in to it slowly over a couple of weeks for their bodies to adjust.

Let us know how it goes.

Greg


Tom a    Posted 07-22-2003 at 09:45:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi:

probably time to call a vet if you've had that many losses already and potentially more coming. Would be helpful to have goats' temperature known before you make the call, as well as rough feel for respiration. Any gut sounds? The more you can give the vet, the more possible they can advise you without even coming out.

I've never had a goat with the squirts, even when I bought one that was very badly infested with worms it just got kind of blobby poops, like a horse.

Since this was sudden on-set and affecting almost the entire herd I'd say they probably all ate something bad...it is possibly either a plant or other poisoning (any chemicals laying around?) and probably without quick and proper treatment you'll lose more.

good luck,
tom


Jimbob    Posted 07-22-2003 at 09:39:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I water-hose clean my animals rears every few days (chickens excluded). Pigs don't care, dogs do not care for it, rabbits & goats real unhappy.


Annie in KY    Posted 07-22-2003 at 09:32:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
That sounds like a big loss. Sorry to hear that. I'd look into identifying any toxins out there, maybe plants or another source of poison.


Ivey    Posted 07-22-2003 at 10:01:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't keep goats, but a neighbor of mine, after losing all his goats, came and asked me what would kill them, (plantwise) that was growing in the woods where he had them. Well the list got pretty long, bracken, laurels, bloodroot, wahoo tree(euonymus)etc. He had picked a pretty bad spot to raise goats, turned out. It would be a good idea to know every plant where they're pastured.


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