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Portable generators
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Buck    Posted 08-20-2001 at 08:58:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Am wanting to buy a portable generator for back-up power. Any thoughts on what might be a good one, would like to keep the price as low as possible. Thanks.


Ron Muse    Posted 02-26-2002 at 10:24:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I know a man who bought a 3oo amp welder and generator nnew 2 yrs ago it has 10 hrs. on it. He gave 8200 for it but i bet he would sell it much cheeper. If interested get back thanks Ron


G Taylor bearings    Posted 08-31-2001 at 12:20:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Buy one with ball bearings in the alternator not sleeve bearings.
The sleeves wear fast & allow the rotor to hit the armature ruining the unit.
A voltage regulator is required too. A cheapy like Coleman varies from 145V at no load to 105 at full load.


Marty Palange    Posted 08-21-2001 at 11:17:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Harbor Freight has a 10 HP 5kW unit from Homelite for $440.


Hogman    Posted 08-24-2001 at 03:16:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Homelite's as junky as coleman.60 years agone they were among the best.
A main consideration is how much actual use will it get. Keeping fresh gas by running it often or in a storage status but prepared for quick return to service.
I expect there are a lot of generaters setting around with tanks full of rotten gas and rust which will never run untill a lot of cleanup and repair is done.

ust a thought


Gary    Posted 08-21-2001 at 05:06:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
First thing you need to do is figure out how much power you need. Then find out if portable is even an option. Also what do you consider portable? How portable, Portable as in towable on a trailer or portable as in carryable by 1 person?
Also what is your budget, Everyone wants the best price on purchased items.


Greg D.    Posted 08-20-2001 at 19:34:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]

If you don`t have the desire or need for the option to have a welder, why pay the extra cost of having a welder gen-set? Just get a generator and not part with as many $$$$$.
Hank is correct about adding up the wattage, however you MUST take into account the start up load that each system will have. It will draw more power to start a motor than to run it, this will be the number you need to consider.
We run on emergency power of 5KW and surge of 6.5KW. This will cover everything in the house except the whole house a/c system.
I`m sure there are a TON of generators collecting dust all over this country that people would LOVE to part with.


Whizz    Posted 08-21-2001 at 04:43:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree on the 5KW unit. We have one we picked up cheap about two years ago due to all too frequent weather related power outages. 5250W with 6500W surge capacity. It handles everything we need including our well pump (the main reason we got it). Most of the major brand names will do the job if properly maintained and deals can be had for under $600.


Franz    Posted 08-20-2001 at 19:33:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
There are currently a shipload of generators flooding the military surplus market, and you can't get more bang for the buck.
Colemans has them fairly cheap, asn so do a lot of other surplus dealers. They also have the rebuild kits, going for next to nothing, and if you buy a machine, the rebuild kit is dam cheap insurance.
You can do a search for pto driven and belt driven generators with any search engine, and get more information than you can digest, as well as a good deal of knowledge.
Buy yourself a machine that runs at 1800 rpm, not 3600, if you want one to last.
If you buy a yuppie surplus unit, make sure it not only runs, but makes power too, a lot of stored machines need to have the residual magnetism renewed.
Whatever you do, DON'T BUY GENERAC!!!
Also, watch out for the units that don't have a bearing at the back of the generator, those crap out real quick.
There is an outfit that sells conversion kits for propane, and they make one for almost any machine.


M.R.    Posted 08-20-2001 at 19:10:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
If I was looking for a portable gen-set in the 8-9 KW range, I would check out the portable welders [like Miller Bobcat 225 NT, Hobart Champion 10,000, Lincoln Ranger 8] as these will likely have the most bang for the buck.
New these will run around $2,350 -$2,755, and the propane option aprox $200.00

We put a 200 amp. Square D transfer switch in for power outages and if I remember corectly it ran $465.


Also if wishing to run them on propane, will need to derate them aprox 10%.

If interested this site may be of some use.


Salmoneye    Posted 08-20-2001 at 10:05:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I agree with hank, but if you have a tractor, I would be looking for a PTO driven model.
More output for the same price usually...


IHank    Posted 08-20-2001 at 10:20:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Good point Salmoneye! What's not been said here is that the buyer needs to tally up the loads s/he expects to take care of with a portable generator.

Doing so is simply going around the place writing down the wattage rating on stuff they want to operate, then add up the numbers. A fridge & freezer, a microwave, a TV set, and some lights, will come in well under the 6 Kw that is about the biggest common portable unit.

If they need more Kw capacity, for electric, stove, space & water heating, and farm equipment, the higher Kw tractor mounted PTO unit is definitely the way to go. Big snag here in Iowa is them things are rare as hens teeth in the ads. About the only time a good used one shows up is at a retirement farm sale. IHank


Jim(MO)    Posted 08-20-2001 at 11:42:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I see PTO units listed on eBay occasionaly. Don't track them so don't know what the going price is. Most things on eBay go pretty high, plus shipping.


IHank    Posted 08-20-2001 at 10:01:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Buck- Watch the newspaper ads. The Y2K scare flooded the market and them units are trickling back out for sale as city people get tired of stumbling over them and having them take up space in the garage.

Also, after every session of bad weather there's a surge in generator sales. Not long after the weather problems settle down those units also show up in the classified ads.

Keep in mind that most of 'em were purchased with a credit card on the spur of the moment and the owner is trying to recover as much money as possible to pay down the credit card bill, in addition to getting rid of a dust collector and storage space taker.

Most of 'em are low hour units and the biggest problem with 'em is stale gas in the tank and some have gummed up carburetors. Good luck and happy hunting, IHank


Mudcat49    Posted 08-20-2001 at 09:44:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
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