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'Queer eye
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Cindi    Posted 07-28-2003 at 06:24:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
for the straight guy'.

This is the title of a new 'make-over' show. Granted the name got my attention, but isn't it politically incorrect to use the word 'queer', or is it okay when your tryin' to get the attention of a mass viewing audience and make lots of money. In my opinion, if it's not okay to use, it should not be okay to use even if you are gay and are okay with it for the moment, because it might make you famous.



shane9    Posted 05-19-2004 at 06:43:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Massachusetts become my favorite state on May 17.


Rich MI    Posted 07-29-2003 at 08:33:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
As far as whether or not it is right or wrong, wouldn't it be nice if the world was that simple?

Don't start the religion thing either because there are arguments for both sides there.

As far as whether it is learned or genetic, one can only GUESS unless they have lived the life.

As far as whether it is an illness/abnormality, who cares, we don't treat people who are born with physical abnormalities different or disrespectfully so why would be treat people who are not sexually "normal" differently.

The people who you see on TV and in the media are the freaks who like the spotlight and who want to be heard, you would not be able to identify "normal" gays and lesbians based on sterotypes.

Also, most gays and lesbians do not want you to accept them or teach your kids about them or watch them on TV... Nor do they want to walk hand-in-hand, make out or show affection in public (they don't want to see it from you either)...

What they (we) do want is for you to be treated with respect.

and I also don't watch that show. They found the "queeniest" fags to put on there...

also, fag, gay, queer, homosexual... none of these offend me but I would prefer it if you refered to me as sir... who I am sleeping with is none of your business.


BJ in PA    Posted 08-25-2003 at 10:58:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Queer Eye...for a minute there I thought this had to do with a problem for those with Bad Eyesight!

I don't have to be judgemental (even if I humanly am)...but Our Maker has already made it pretty clear where he stands on the issue, considering He is the Law in the Universe...."men lying with men" is a detestable thing in his eyes....(whether anyone believes this or not doesn't matter, does it?) It's His opinion...

I think it will all get straightened out when his judgement day comes into play.

Just because a society is reaping a certain amount of rewards now, doesn't mean that there isn't a Judgement Day in their future....
hmmmm, is that judgemental too?


Ladyhawk    Posted 07-28-2003 at 17:33:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL glad to see they are telling it like it is.. I am sick and tired of beating around the bush to spare feeling. Face the Truth!


Dave Smith    Posted 07-28-2003 at 16:26:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A rose by any other name is still a rose.
That goes for being politicly correct also.
Dave


Ron/PA    Posted 07-28-2003 at 11:20:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just typed a long response to this and could not post it. I swear I removed everything that could have been a problem,,,,
Finally I just gave up, I can't keep up with the thought police.
In short, I don't care what they do, I don't have to like it, and I don't have to approve.
I'm tollerant, but judgmental.
Later
Ron


Maggie/TX    Posted 07-28-2003 at 08:10:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi, in the world of advertising, whatever works to get the attention of a mass audience and makes lots of money is a good thing.

In the real world, it is not an acceptable word for a straight person to use to describe a gay person, as it is considered derogatory.

It can be used by one gay person to another if used in a joking way, kinda like how people of color can joke with each other and use the "N" word and get away with it, but a white person sure can't do that.
JMO


Ron/PA    Posted 07-28-2003 at 06:39:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
I can honestly and proudly say that I have never watched one reality based tv show. I can pretty much assure you that I will NEVER watch this show! Being a bit of a self proclaimed homophobe I cannot imagine a good reason to devote that much of my way too short life consuming cranial garbage. LOL
Later
Ron


bill b va    Posted 07-28-2003 at 08:43:40       [Reply]  [No Email]

no one will ever convince me he- shes or she- hes are right in the head .


Maggie/TX    Posted 07-28-2003 at 09:51:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My opinion is that everyone is created the way they are for a reason and it is not up to us to understand it, but to strive to treat everyone with equal respect as long as they treat us with equal respect.

Of course, I've had the opportunity to study the subject from a personal standpoint, as I have two cousins who are gay and the very best neighbors we've ever had are a female gay couple. The neighbors are more "straight-laced" in their lifestyle than 3/4 of the straight folks I know.


Cindi    Posted 07-28-2003 at 10:10:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't 'judge' anybody based on their seksual orientation, but I do beleive that the lifestyle is a learned one and not a biological. If not in 100% of the cases then at least in 99% of them. I don't judge them, but that does not mean that I agree with them.

My babysitter is a prime example. I knew her for five years before she announced that she was a lesbian. She dated guys the whole time I knew her. She was overweight and shy and had trouble with meeting people anyway.

The next thing I know she's dating a woman and in a relationship. Here girlfreind is also overweight and shy. I don't know if she's truly happy or just beleives she is, but I had to tell her that I had a problem with it. I don't want her and her 'girlfriend' coming to visit.

If I stand there and smile happily and pretend that I have no problem with it then I not only am I a hypocrite but I send a message to my kids loud and clear that I think it is okay for two women or two men to be together and I don't. I can't help it. That's the way I feel and I refuse to change to suit whatever the current societal expectation is.

I have no hard feelings towards gay people, but as long as I am rasing children I have to stand behind my beliefs, unless I want my daughter to bring home a girlfreind or my son a boyfreind. If God intended for men to be with men and woemen to be with women then we would have reproductive systems that are a lot more complex than they are now. I do better in a don't ask don't tell environment.


shane9    Posted 04-17-2004 at 11:22:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
god? there is no gad.


Ray    Posted 10-08-2003 at 07:39:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I read all the replys up to this date. Everyone said something I could relate to but Cindi drew the base line. I beleive in live and let live but I also have to think of my kids and grandkids first. I don't want "gay lifestyle" to be an example for my kids to follow. As a boyscout I looked up to my scoutmaster and wanted to be like him. My parent enchourged me to follow his lead. It could produce unrecoverable harm for a young person to view homosexualls as a rolemodel in life.


Salmoneye    Posted 07-28-2003 at 08:57:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
I too agree they are a sandwich shy of a picnic...But they don't scare me or really cause me any real loss of sleep...

But then I am from Vermont...Land of 'Civil Union'...And land of leave me alon and I'll leave you alone...

Well...It used to be that way...Dang flatlanders...


Lenore    Posted 07-28-2003 at 07:43:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am charter member of that club, too.
I have not watched one reality show either.
I also have not watched any of the "talent" shows either.

I also only use the word homose+ual not gay or queer. I understand that the word homose+ual is not politically correct now. Of course that is not a surprise. The truth is not polically correct!
It evidently is a sensorable word on this board also. :-)


Cindi    Posted 07-28-2003 at 07:48:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well I am a member of the 'can't condemn unless I've seen it' club. I watched a few minutes of it yesterday, and it was okay but I got the feeling that the gay men were laying it on a little thick. It's not a bad show. Not something I would watch religiously though.


BadMoon    Posted 07-29-2003 at 00:23:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A couple of days ago, I was watching a rerun of Columbo on the BRAVO channel. They kept interrupting the show with these gay show commercials. That did it, I won't watch BRAVO no more. A year or so ago A&E had Sandra Bernhart hosting a show for a couple of weeks, She kept hinting/promoting gay ...... At the end of the second week, her final day, Her special friend came out on stage, they kissed a couple of times right on the mouth at the end of the show. I don't have to watch that crap-Haven't watched A&E since. BadMoon


shane9    Posted 04-17-2004 at 11:12:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
don't watch tv at all.sit down in manure.


Aprille    Posted 06-04-2004 at 03:06:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love Queer eye..everything about it is cute and funny..I wouldn't change a thing..


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