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Tree Stumps
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SamMI    Posted 08-26-2001 at 06:49:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Short of hiring Excavator/Backhoe, has anyone any advice on accelerating the deterioration of stumps. I've been told that drilling holes and keep filling the hole with fuel oil will speed the process. All sugestions considered. Thanks.

Mike Taylor    Posted 08-28-2001 at 14:47:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Several years ago I found a product called "Stump Rot" at a hardware store. I used it on a 12" maple stump sawed down to about 2" above ground level. Drilled 4 or 5 holes in the stump, poured the powder in, and in about 1 year the stump and all the roots were rotted away. It had enzymes of some sort in it. I later tried it on an Oak stump and it worked just as well.

SamMI    Posted 08-27-2001 at 05:32:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey Folks; Thanx for all the reply's. The dynamite sound effective but; I found that the cost of it probably equals the cost of hiring an excavator. Since I ain't in no hurry, I'll try the sugar and the salt idea. Up here in Northern Michigan where we are overun with the deer it is illegal to bait them. However I can always tell the game wardens the I am decomposing stumps.

scooterhead    Posted 08-28-2001 at 02:43:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
you got the idea now Sam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MikeH-Tx    Posted 08-27-2001 at 05:05:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sam, what I did is similar to what IHank mentioned hearing about. Mid winter, I took some logs and built a fire around the stumps, and just let it burn all day. I could do about four at a time. The coal bed kept going for a week or so and when done, the stump was gone. It actually burned it into the ground a little.

Don't recommend this for ground to be plowed, but for ground to be mowed, it works great.

hay    Posted 08-26-2001 at 17:22:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
i sure wish someone would have told my uncle about these stump removal techniques. we DUG the dumb things out by shovel and ax. although i can say that when digging them out it makes a clean job and nothing left underground for a plow to hit. sure was awful hard work though.

scooterhead    Posted 08-26-2001 at 13:37:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
If its close to a area that deer are around cut a large hole in the top with a chainsaw and pour in a bunch of loose salt . After the salt gets into the wood the deer will eat the stump into the ground .

Denise    Posted 08-26-2001 at 12:32:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Both my sons credit their muscles to many years of stumpin. (and the neighbor girls could hear and always came out to watch em work...) We would dig all the dirt away and they would chop roots all the way around. Of course it was handy to have a truck to give it a good jerk and drag it back to the firepile - done in a day. When they were just to big to jerk out - we cleaned up the yard of all branches and when the fire got going good used the trunk to burn out the stump- took us 2 weeks of campfires on the biggest one we did.

phyllis    Posted 08-26-2001 at 12:12:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have heard that you can do the hole drilling, like Hank mentioned, but pour on, and in, LOTS of sugar. It is supposed to cause the decomposition to go faster, feed the micro-organisms that do it, and it won't poison or hurt anything.

IHank    Posted 08-26-2001 at 15:58:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Phyllis- I like the sugar and accelerate the natural decomposition idea.

I'm gonna try the trick with a can of real old Draino that needs to be disposed of next chance I get.

The bacteria killing effect of the lye and salt peter and other chemicals looks to me like it would slow things down instead of speed up decomposition. I'll try the draino on one, the sugar on another, and the salt on another, this fall. I doubt if there'll be any observable results for a year or so. I'll post the results but it'll be a while.

The salt and deer idea sounds good. But, I'm not sure if they're hard up enough for salt licks around here to do the job. Will have to try it and see.

My favorite is the idea of setting an open ended steel drum over the stump and dumping a bag of charcoal bricks in and let it burn. Like Burrhead sez, no clean up. IHank

ShepFL    Posted 08-27-2001 at 15:30:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
If the sugar don't work then the sweet smell will surely bring in the bears. They can do the work for you while trying to satisfy their sweet tooth. Or so I am told.

Waiting for this to happen this fall.

phyllis    Posted 08-26-2001 at 16:30:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I just wonder, if the sugar thing works, along the same line, why not just put a pile of manure, leaves, etc. on top of the stump and make a compost pile that will give you fertilizer, and decompose the stump too?

Denise    Posted 08-26-2001 at 16:44:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
reading that reminded me of something we chuckled about this AM -
If you are looking for some natural fertilizers - wnat to do some experimenting?????
Today's TV commercial on HGTV garden hints suggested your local zoo for some more exotic poop.
Unhuh... if Kode piles are not big enough we could bring home some elephant dodo.
mmmm mmm

phyllis    Posted 08-26-2001 at 16:50:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Nice fertile ground you got, huh? Hee-Hee!! The 'poop' of choice for me is the rabbits'. You can use it as it drops, so to speak, and it won't burn anything up. Or, if you want, you can leave it alone for a while under the cages, then the worms get into it, and like magic...worm castings! Great stuff.

Denise    Posted 08-26-2001 at 17:29:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I was wonderin where you were hangin the last few days... watching rabbit poo sound like as much fun as hauling elephant turds.

phyllis    Posted 08-26-2001 at 17:49:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yep, when I get bored, I can always go outside, and watch it drop!! Heeeeee-Hee!

Denise    Posted 08-26-2001 at 18:01:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
hahahahahaahaa - you are too funny!!!!

Fred Tx    Posted 08-27-2001 at 09:39:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yall are just outrageous. But funny :>)

IHank    Posted 08-26-2001 at 07:20:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sam- Look down this site a page or so, or else the Country People site, for a thread on this topic about a month ago. There are a bunch of good ideas posted.

One involved drilling holes into the stump and filling the holes with salt peter (one idea,) or lye (another), and leaving them to rapidly rot for a year. Those two I'm gonna try.

There was another about burning them out, but I can't remember the details for sure on that one now. Seems like the guy took an old metal garbage can with the bottom gone, set it over the stump, dumped in a bag of charcoal bricks, lit it off, and let it slowly burn on down into the ground over the next several days. It was something along that line.

Good luck and work careful, IHank

Hogman    Posted 08-26-2001 at 19:09:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Aw tha good ol days afore all tha anti this'n that crap. We usta dig a hole under tha durn stump, stuff in some 80% gelatin with a long nuff fuze ta get a safe distance'n just scatter ol stump. Had a shirt tail uncle as was powder monkey at tha quarry,a big help.

IHank    Posted 08-26-2001 at 19:59:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hog Man- You done brought back some memories...

I was just a kid and it was right after WWII when Dad decided to clear some timber pasture ground for tillage.

We cut trees and brush with a double blade axe. We saved what we could for firewood and burned the big stuff.

Dad was big on using dynamite, for about anything in the way... He had an old wood drill bit welded onto a piece of wagon endgate rod, which was welded into an old bit brace. He'd drill thru the dirt to under a stump. Next, he'd put a quarter stick down the hole. It would blow away the dirt and expose the roots.

From there it was either chop the roots and pull the stump, or load the hole with dynamite, back fill and tamp the dirt, and "launch" the stump.

We had a huge thorn tree right in the fence row and he was in no mood to tangle with that thing. So, he gave it about a half stick and blew a huge hole under the tree. We loaded the hole with 8 to 10 sticks of 40%, back filled and tamped, lit the long fuse and headed for the other end of the field.

The blast was a fizzle. It just blew a bigger hole under the tree. Dad was peeved to say the least. He said the dynamite was old and weak. We knocked off and got after milking time and let the job be 'till the next day.

Next day we went to the hardware store and Dad bought 15 to 20 sticks of 60% dynamite. We went back and he packed all the old dynamite, must have been 20 sticks or so, in the hole. On top of that he put in 8 to 10 sticks of the new stuff.

Yep, it was a lot of work backfilling and tamping the crater.

Again, I lit the long fuse and we walked back to the end of the field and sat on a log. Shortly there was a blast that must have shook the other side of earth! I looked around and the whole tree was something like 15 to 20 feet in the air!

We walked back and the tree was laying on the ground. There was also a monstrous crater and a big stretch of fence blown away. We spent quite a while scabbing in a fence repair so the neighbor's cows wouldn't get out and into our place.

The major part of the crater was on our side of the fence and we spent years gradually flipping dirt back in the hole with the plow and disk. Last time I looked there was still a big low spot in the ground there.

Later in life I came to see it all as good training for draftee service as a grunt in Vietnam. Several years go my ornery niece in CA dubbed us as "Pyros All!" Thanks for the memory. IHank

Hogman Hey I'm laughin ta tears    Posted 08-27-2001 at 18:33:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hank I 've not got so much fun readin in a long time and thats a fact.
I could see what was comin and that just made it funnier.
When I was in the three C's in forty one was stationed in the San Gabrial Mts in Kalaforny. When They found out I knew about blastin I was made powder monkey building a forestry road. All they would use was 40% smokless and electric caps wired in series. I thought the powder a little micky mouse but liked the cap idea,lot safer'n fuses. Anyway, The roof leaked on the powder magazine and got a coupla cases soppin wet. The Super brought tha stuff out and told Me to put it on top of a shot'n scatter it out over tha mountain.
I told Him tho it may be drippin watter it ain't gonna scatter, it's gonna blow. We argued a bit, He was boss,I had a hole loaded with a case and a half,I opened tha hole put them two in and mud capped it. Put on another 250 foot of wire,moved all tha crew over in tha next county and blew down tha mountain. Took em three days ta clear tha highway down below.
I was removed to a ski slide construction site requiring nothin but pop shots.
Would I a done it again? Y e e e a h I spect

Burrhead    Posted 08-26-2001 at 12:42:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's right Dr Hank. The barrel works good and there's no clean-up after the job is done.

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