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Ret    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:08:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Got a young raccoon in my trap. Set it in the barn where the keets and chickens are. I don't like to randomly kill most animals , but I know if it lives it will be back, and sooner or later will have a bigger problem. Some people could made a moral issue of this I know. After all, they were living in my woods long before I bought it. PETA would say it has a right to life. Guess they are right too. Like I told my daughter, when you are raising animals on your place you sometimes have to make some tough decisions. Anyone have a problem with my outlook on this?


PETA=PITA    Posted 08-09-2003 at 21:27:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Think about it.


Kelly Holder    Posted 08-20-2004 at 19:52:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
you can call the wildlife fishiers in your area and they will come are contact you and tell you were you can bring there are wild live refuge place all over the u.s.


RayP(MI)    Posted 08-08-2003 at 18:24:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Locally, we had a family that was keeping a pet coon. Animal got in the home and viciously chewed the face of their very young baby. She'll be disfigured the rest of her life. Don'take chances - get rid of it before something happens. Coons don't make good neighbors!


Charlie    Posted 08-08-2003 at 17:16:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
22 to top of head works well - Put the barrel real close
If you choose to release, drive far cuz it will be back - Don't think he's gonna shake your hand for doing so, those things are nasty



screaminhollow    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:37:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
If a wild animal was attacking your daughter would you even hesitate to do anything? Which do you care more about? Protecting your stock or a wild animal that can spread disease while it comes to kill your stock. Do you want to take a risk that it will get in a scrap with your dog or cat? Maybe bite your family. My son was bitten in broad daylight by a raccoon on his 5th birthday. I had no problem plugging it with a 45. It seems the raccoon had a "litter" in the shed my son was playing next to and I guess she felt he was a threat. (I didn't know that at the time I shot it, but I still don't care.) She's dead and the babies went to a wildlife rehabilitator on the strict condition that none of them be released within 4 miles of a residence. My goats get brain worms from the deer, and my horses can get Potomac fever from the snails dropped in the pasture by ducks and geese. Nope, I have no problem deciding which I'm more attached too. I don't go out of my way to kill them, but I will if they become a pest or nuisance, just like a rat.


Les    Posted 08-08-2003 at 13:18:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought Potomac fever only struck humans. Or, more specifically, members of Congress.


Corey    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:33:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
slow smoked over wood fire with your favorite barbeque sauce, little extra salt and pepper and onion. mmmm,mmm good.


Cindi    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:22:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope not random at all. Do what you have to do to protect your own, you're right it will be back. I have no moral issue with killing it, now how it's killed is important too. I used to know a guy who trapped coons and possums. He had a large brick in the trap and when he found one in it he sank the trap in his pond. I thought that was a little heartless. Just shoot it. Make it fast.


Willy-N    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:21:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Part of my land is for me and my animals the other is for the wild animals. The wild ones should know better than to cross the line. With people, dogs, pigs, chickens and cattle on this side of the fence they are protected by me. The other side is free range. Mark H.


Paula    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:43:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
JMO but there's balance in the world. We all affect
each other's lives in good and not so good ways. I think
the trick is not to be wicked or gluttonous about how
you live. The predator kills his prey not out of vice, but
by necessity. This racoon has an impact on the
environment as much as you do. It has no qualms
about eating fish - it doesn't do it out of vice but by
necessity. You have a barn with livestock. The
racoon's presence is a risk to your livestock. You kill it
not out of vice but by necessity.

Such is nature. You eat it, you die, it eats you.

JMO
Paula


Unless you...    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:47:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Such is nature. You eat it, you die, it eats you.

JMO
Paula

Unless you gets cremated... :^)


Paula    Posted 08-08-2003 at 11:01:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Or embalmed, locked into a hermetically sealed box
and put in a concrete vault.

Paula


Paula    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:24:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Are you sure? I mean other than a fly getting in the
coffin or some eggs/pupae, its not like they can
transmorgiphy into the coffin. The coffin would have to
fail somehow. I think the only contributors to your
decay would be bacterial/microbrial progression.

What do you think?
Paula


An Uncle of....    Posted 08-08-2003 at 12:44:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
mine had his own Funeral Home fer over 45 years....hermetically sealed coffins are a joke...seal breaks within a year and in come de goobers ta get ya....


Well there ya gothen.    Posted 08-08-2003 at 13:06:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
.nt.


Dat ain't gonna    Posted 08-08-2003 at 11:04:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
kepp de worms from knawing on ya.... :^)


Les    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:22:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't go all soft and squishy on us there, ret. You listen to Dale.
There's more stinkin wildlife around here (deer, bear, coons) than there was before the Pilgrims landed. The bears are so numerous as to be a big nuisance. When I was a kid, we never had moose or coyotes here. Now there's more than an ample supply.
Coons are destructive dirty animals. Don't buy into that animal rights foolishness. Eliminate the filthy vermin.


Tom A    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:18:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
If I understand right, you trapped a raccoon in your poultry barn?

If that is correct, I don't see any issue. You are not "randomly killing" anything, you are exterminating a particular predator who threatens your own animals (who you are entrusted to take care of). I don't believe in killing anything without good reason, but as you correctly pointed out, predators will always come back for a meal.

As I see it, we have several responsbilies: 1) to protect those animals under our care and 2) to dispatch predators as quickly and humanely as possible, in other words to not cause undue suffering...BTW, in my mind suffering includes keeping them in a trap too long. So shoot him or wack him in the head, but kill him quick.

*That* in my opinion is ethical treatment of animals. PETA is a bunch of crackpots.

good luck,
tom


Ya could...    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:13:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
take it fer a 10 mile drive away frum yer place an turn it loose.....


Dale    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:14:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's why I have so many raccoons, I'm 10 miles from town. Don't just pass the problem on, that's how raccoon rabies got spread so fast.


Well....    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:23:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
shoot him and be done with it....less you're thinking of making a pet outta him....where are those PETA fools when ya need one....


ret    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:32:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
heading for the barn,knew I was right, thanks guys


Dale    Posted 08-08-2003 at 10:12:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
There wouldn't be nearly as many of them living there if they weren't getting crops to eat and nice warm barns to live in. PETA can come out here and see a newborn calf with it's head torn off by a bear or with it's eyes and tongue pecked out by ravens, still living, and if they still want to whine they can join the raccoon in the trap


Jimbob    Posted 08-08-2003 at 18:58:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
PETA reminds me of our MI DNR. I had a nasty badger killing my chickens. I had to leave early in the morning & could here the damn thing hissing at me. It wanted us to leave.

Due to the DNR protecting the animal, I hired a professional trapper. The trap somehow malfunctioned & accidently killed the badger. The DNR stated we had to pay the $1000 fine. Somehow, the trapper had immunity. With anger, I told the DNR to 'stuff it'. It never got to court, the prosecuting attorney would not pursue the case.

Next time, I'll shoot any offending animal immediately except eagles. And, I will tell no one.


Bill in TN    Posted 08-10-2003 at 11:08:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
The local Coon hunters club will buy live coons at a good price around here. Can't train dogs without coons. Also, those boys can help you with any future problems....Nothing like a Friday nite with a full moon and a the bawl of a couple of good hounds....Music to my ears....Have you thought of giving them a call?


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