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STEVEN H    Posted 08-13-2003 at 09:46:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
now this might not be the right board for this, but, i have a bull that is geting to be a real health risk here, so far i have been the only one to get hurt.(banged up a finger punching him, hit the horn) i have had ti fight him off me a few times already and he is geting more and more nuts all the time. well i have diesided it is time for him to go. we have a cattle truck with the ramp, but how in the world we are going to get him up in the truck i have no0 clue, the only reason he follows you is to beat on you, and not a single one of us is going in a dead end truck with him. so what ideas you guys have?


Jailkeeper    Posted 08-13-2003 at 20:52:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
You have to have a pen and squeeze chute if you own cattle. Once the pen and chute are in place, run the bull and a few (or even better, all) the cows in the pen. Work the bull into the squeeze chute and get him shut in. Put a couple of pieces of heavy pipe behind his legs so he can't back out of the chute.

Next you will need to place a large steel ring through his nose with about an 18" piece of chain hanging from it. This will make him much easier to manage the next time he is in a chute for vaccinations, pinkeye treatment, eartags, etc.

After the chain is in place, back the trailer up to the chute and release him to the trailer. He'll be glad to get out of the chute, guaranteed.


STEVEN H    Posted 08-14-2003 at 11:48:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
now this is the greatest idea i do think that i have seen for a while. i have never seen the need to realy work with a cow in a shout but i have had to run chacing a cow a few times trying to finish the injection!!! LOL fun. i have had to lay on a few to try to keep them down, dont always work either i wll add.but most things i can do with no problem as almost every cow will let me work all around her, the bull wont let me past his horns lol.


Ret    Posted 08-14-2003 at 16:46:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
sure hate to see you get hurt, you are young and probably less careful as you ought to be.Still wish someone would tell me in this day and age why they would keep a bull? Really curious


Taylor Lambert    Posted 08-13-2003 at 15:41:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
You could hem him up with a loader tractors in a corner or put a rope around his neck and through the front of the truck bed and drag im up there. I had to load a big bull that paralyzed a good friend of mine and they wanted him taken to another farm. I was by meself after my helper saw him and left. I got the rope on his neck and up throu the cattle bed. I couldnt drag him up so i tied the end to a tree close to the truck cab and drove backwards. well he balked so i decided to lock the poweer divider and put the truck in low rangeg reverse. He fought but that L9000 Ford kept on. He tried to twist around when i finall got im loaded he was on is back. as he tried the twist around during loadin. Ive used this technique alot on other animals most do good with it. So far Ive put a winch on the farmers truck for this purpose.


Ron,Ar    Posted 08-13-2003 at 15:46:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
hmmmm, sounds like my story about Dad loading a horse once. The horse was on his back also. Problem is, he's still on his back. That was 30 yrs ago.


SHeiserman    Posted 08-13-2003 at 15:33:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't know about cattle, but here's how I load hogs. I back the trailer up a day or two early, and let them go in and out on their own. They seem to go in alot easier when they're used to it. But you know how it is Steven, pigs are just smarter than moo-moo's.


bob ny    Posted 08-13-2003 at 13:59:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
most cattle trucks have a hole or space between the rails of the body near a corner post ron a 3/4 in rope through the hole and put it on horns orneck making sure the other end is secure )tree or frame of truck) one person pull on rope from outside trock one person in back of bull way back and run from side to side yelling when the bull turns his head you will bs able to take up on rope first thing you know he is in the truck keep him tied when shipping untill you see what thr unloading is you can always a throw second rope to release him this worked for me and my wife with a 2900 lb brown swiss bull that did not want to go bye bye


Reddee    Posted 08-13-2003 at 13:38:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Perfect example of why I love this board so much.. Folks, now thats "Country Living"!!
Reddee


slim    Posted 08-13-2003 at 13:35:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like it's time to build a corral with a load chute. If you do raise cattle you'll need one sooner or later, if for no other reason, just to work one when it gets sick. Believe me, it's no fun to throw a 1,400 pound cow out in the open just to work on her feet.

I never had any luck with bulls and sweet feed. Could lead the cows and young calves around though. But not the bulls. Neighbors had a couple of Brahman bulls that you could lead around with a halter. One could be riden. The other one ended up breaking its owner's hip playing with him. Tossed him up in the air pretty good. Big dudes didn't know their own strength. Be careful.

slim



Good Lord    Posted 08-13-2003 at 12:12:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Shoot him in the head, right between the eyes, with a large bore rifle. Then once he's down bleed him in the pasture. Load him on the truck with a winch and drive to the butcher. Works for me anyway.
Paul.


gary    Posted 08-13-2003 at 11:47:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Boy, this sounds like a wreck looking for a place to happen. I don't know where you are located, but you might think about hiring a good cowboy with a stock trailer to rope and load him. and I did say cowboy not wantabe.


Linda    Posted 08-13-2003 at 11:35:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you have a mobile butcher in your area? One who would come out and shoot the bull on your property and process the carcass? If so, please be sure to warn him about the bull's attitude. Or, have someone there who is a good shot and who will do the kill while the butcher is standing by to process the carcass.

Good luck.


Dale    Posted 08-13-2003 at 19:43:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Exactly. It isn't worth playing around with them. Even if you do manage to get him on the truck, what about the poor suckers at the other end?
The last guy here who tried to play around with getting a bull on a truck after he turned on him ended up dead. The police had to shoot the bull so the funeral home could scrape up the body, which his own family couldn't recognize. 50 years old with a widow and two teenage kids trying to find a way to survive without him. Shoot him and butcher him on the spot, or shoot him and let him rot.


Linda    Posted 08-13-2003 at 23:30:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dale, are you sure you don't live down the road from me? Our local mobil butcher is named Dale. LOL


Blindfold....    Posted 08-13-2003 at 10:21:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
him and stick a bucket of sweet grain under his nose....should do the trick for you....you gonna put this guy in the freezer or sell him outright?


STEVEN H    Posted 08-13-2003 at 10:46:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
he is just over a year, so i might just put him in the freezer and sell him that way, or might ship him to the sales barn. blind folding him would be a death wish. i cover an eye of his if i want to get around a side of him. that just makes him go nuts and spin on me. but the sweet feed is a good thought


Well whatever.....    Posted 08-13-2003 at 13:33:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
way you work him good luck and be careful...hospitals are NOT a fun place ta be fer any reason.....


Cooncatcher Clay    Posted 08-13-2003 at 09:59:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Seperate him from the other cattle and give him a bucket of sweet feed each day for a week or so.Then bring the truck into the pasture and put the bucket inside the truck


Old Sarge    Posted 08-13-2003 at 09:57:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Put him in a small corrall. Back the truck up to the gate, open gate so he can escape into the truck. If he doesn't want to escape that way then start crowding him with a panel (slowly). If he still won't load secure the panel to the rails of the corrall, and a cattle prod (hotshot) outa do ther trick.


STEVEN H    Posted 08-13-2003 at 10:24:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
he is a pasture bull, i should have stated that. we dont have a corall to move him to. but the prod is not a bad deal, we have used them with great results.


Corey    Posted 08-13-2003 at 15:41:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you are going to butcher him, then take some of the advice already given and pay the extra 30 bucks or so to have a kill man come and kill him and hang him on the spot,, if you just gotta load him to sell him, then find someone who knows what they are doing,, now it is going to cost you a little, but not as much as goin about it without knowin what your doing. Go to the sale barn and ask if theirs somebody that normaly loads and delivers to that sale, they'll be able to point you to someone.


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