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Pork Barrel Garbage
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Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 08:25:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Suzie Q- The post below is rather long, so new post.

I do not know how to stop the stealing in the gov't. I am embarrased my generation has contributed to the present situation. And, unfortunately, the young generation will be asked to pay for it!

What I was eluding to is the young are getting fed up with it. They are not uninformed, most are well aware they been partly 'sold out' by the few. I suspect they will be looking at us older folk with a critical eye in the near future.



what is pork?    Posted 08-15-2003 at 11:25:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Seems like I hear folks around my way complaining about "pork barrel politics," but I think most all of us have backwards NIMBY (not in my backyard) thinking about pork.

It goes something like: "If money is being spent in *your* area, then it is pork; if it is spent in mine, then it is good government planning."

I won't say everyone thinks this way, but a vast majority do, and that is why pork will never die.

tom a


Salmoneye    Posted 08-15-2003 at 13:43:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
You may want to look up the infamous 'Champlain Flyer' train...Many millions in US money spent on a boondoggle down the hill from me...

Trust me...It was pork out the yin/yang...It was literally in my back yard...And only the Pols wanted it...



Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 11:32:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I consider pork barrel spending as paying off a bribe for votes.. and some of the spending has
been for frivolous monuments, and other such
things.

Actually since Carter, the monies in excess have been stolen from the SS/Medicare system...and that
would be a good thing if it were repaid with interest. instead of allowing this trend.......

I consider pork as pork even if it done in my state... What do you think? The reps keep whining about the SS funds will be defunct in a few years... but if they would stop over spending and having to take the surplus from SS there would be no problem.. Hopefully our reps will become more responsible in this matter and freeze all those assest from stealing by the generous pork barrel expenditures...

Just my opinion... hehe


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 08:35:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maybe we should ''hog tie'' the representatives to reverse this trend. Is there any hope of that happening?

Since I am getting ackquainted with ya all....
what part of the country do you hail from and
are you a farmer in addition to being a wiser
and perhaps older gentlemen. :)

Is your state one that does not charge income tax?


Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:26:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am a construction manager, but do have a mini farm. This mini-farm is close to self-substaining. I will be installing electric wind gens next year, thus will not need any utilities.

See my post regarding Michigan in your post below. I am 53 years old & quite healthy/active. No required meds or other issues.


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:37:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oophs, I forgot to say it is wonderful that you are availing yourself of the wind source for your power. It just might come in handy. Here in
California our Power Company actually will buy back any power you have left over...does the comp.
that services your area do the same?


Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 10:05:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
No power buy back right now. Plenty of power is generated in MI.


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 11:35:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, that is good to know...
btw, regarding your chickens,
do you raise them for eggs or
for meat? or for both.


Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 11:50:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Both eggs & meat.


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:33:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
On your mini farm, do you have any animals
or do you grow vegetables, hay etc. also
how many acres makes up a mini farm?

Here in California we have Ranchettes that
are only 5 acres..One friend has horses and
I must say 5 acres is really not as large as
they need for the ten minature horses they
have. Gets kinda stinky at times.. :)

Your post above is very informative, and it
sounds like a place for down to earth people
to live and enjoy living at.


Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:37:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Right now, 2 goats (one milker), 2 pigs, 42 meat chickens, 10 layer chickens, a few dozen meat rabbits & (tastes like mild pork to me, not chicken).


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:44:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
WOW that must keep you extremely busy
or do you have some help on your farm.

We raised Rabbits for meat, but gave it
up, as the process was painful due to
the fact we made friends of all our bunnies.

Also they cry when their lives end...but it
was a profitable business while it lasted.

How many acres is your mini farm.?


Jimbob    Posted 08-15-2003 at 09:59:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
I do not believe the aminals take more than say 1.5 hours a day. With a family of four, no inconvenience.

As for butchering, we have the Amish do it. They specialize in that. Even the meat stores cut a deal on the second pig (we raise two for company) & perform butchering. If times got tight, I would perform it all.


Suzy Q    Posted 08-15-2003 at 11:39:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for responding. That is quite
an operation you have there.

I few years back I spent a week on an
Amish Farm in Indiana... It was quite
an experience. The people are very nice
and it was amazing how crisp and clean
everything was.

The food was a bit heavier than we are
used to... however delicious... and the
shoo fly pie was out of this world.


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