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What to do with styrofoam
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Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 11:13:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]

We have this huge pile of styrofoam blocks left over from the roof, they are 7.5 inches thick, and pretty solid -
got any thoughts on a good use for these?
I could drive them to the dump, but maybe there is something fun to do with styrofoam - they don't decompose so outdoor is fine, they are lightweight, but large and awkward....


bill    Posted 03-03-2004 at 06:50:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i'll take them


RAY    Posted 03-15-2002 at 05:32:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
LOOKING FOR 3 1/2 INCH STYROFOAM. ANY HELP WOULD BE APP.


PatM    Posted 09-07-2001 at 06:12:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Those are like the panels we used on our roof, and the foam is polystyrene (like the coffee cups at the kwik shop), which you could burn outside, but it's better to haul them to the landfill. We had Eagle Panel SYstems (Bob Poor from Crested Butte, CO)supply ours.

You could use them for cold frames for starting veggies and flowers, and as insulaation to keep 'maters going later in the year.


Denise    Posted 09-07-2001 at 07:42:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
nice cabin.
Yes the panels do look like ours.
Our timber rafters are 32 on center, with t and G plank we put down first showing to the ceiling.
How did you do yours? From the picture they look far apart..
we did timbers, then all the plank, then came back over the whole thing with the styrofoam panels.


PatM    Posted 09-07-2001 at 10:48:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Our panels are structural, and were prefabbed in St. Louis, MO. They are 4 foot wide by 24 feet long on the main roof. The bottom (inside the house)of the panels are 1X8 t&g, the top is 5/8 oriented strand board. The log purlins are at 7'3" centers, on a 12:12 roof.

As you can see in the photos the panels were swung into place with a cherry picker, and then screwed to the purlins with 14" screws. In between each panel expanding foam was used to provide a weather seal. The roof shed water for about 8 months without tarpaper or anything (couldn't get a roofer for that long).


Denise    Posted 09-08-2001 at 10:22:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Nice pics!
I like the look of the red roof from afar.
We thought about a tin roof too, but opted to blend in more with the forest. We did an architetral shingle that is supposed to look like shake.
You can see our cabing here:


slim    Posted 09-07-2001 at 06:08:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've got friends who used the good sized chunks for one man boats. Just bolt a plastic fishing boat seat and pedistal to it and you can fish small ponds. One bigger one even had a trolling motor. I wouldn't get too far from shore or on big lakes tho.

slim


Cowboy Joe    Posted 09-06-2001 at 19:38:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
RECYCLE???


Murphy    Posted 09-06-2001 at 14:15:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you have a puppy dog that needs housing? Build him a big-ole condo out of the stuff or heck, if there are kids around build them a little playhouse. Storage shed? Heck, if you make it look like anything kind of useful the inspector might just pass right on by it.

BTW, I was kidding about burning the stuff earlier!


ed    Posted 09-05-2001 at 21:13:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Throw it in the atic and use for insulation. If you find a better use for it later you have it.


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 22:44:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
There is no attic, there is a cathedral ceiling (that's why we had to use the stuff in the first place to achieve an R40 to meet code) we were saving it, but we can't keep it in the crawl space either as the final inspection means no left over building materials on site.. What a pain in my butt! That's why were going to have to do *something* with it!!


IHank    Posted 09-05-2001 at 23:09:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Denise- Give some thought to buying one of them cut off pick ups made into a trailer. They make dandy storage areas. I built two of 'em and have used 'em that way for many years. Instead of having a junk pile the salvage materials are inside and out of sight, plus they can easily be moved around to wherever it is needed/wanted. Watch the want ads and fifty to a hundred bucks should get you one.

I wish you lived close by so I could help you out by hauling off some of your problem materials! Big grin to 'yall, IHank


Mudcat49    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:56:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
The porta potty in the background looks like a rental unit. Break the blocks up so that they fit inside the potty, and when they come to get the potty they will go away with the porta potty!!!


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 18:42:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
har de har har...
Yep, that is a rental porta potty, has to be here on site till we pass final occupancy inspection. They don't care that the trailer has full facilities I guess... rules are rules.
It was well used when we had help here in March and Feb - but not for what you would expect! Took us a few weeks to realize they were guzzlin beers and moonshine? in there instead...
... and FYI - it was already a great chuckle for the porta potty/ pooper pumper guys earlier this year, the guys we had here helpin us apparently were 'disposing' of the fake snow in small floating amounts and they felt the need to comment. Unfortunately this pile would take at least a dozen porty potties packed to the roof....
Hhhhmmm, maybe we could crunch up a slab a week and they could suck it up with the unused blue water???


ShepFL    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:19:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Denise -
Depending on how much gardening you like do the styrofoam could be beneficial.

1. Take all pieces that are less than square or rectangular and crush into very small pieces (I let the kids do this). I then plow this into the clay areas of my land. Helps to break up the soil and permits water to drain vs. standing atop clay.

2. Large pieces can be trued up so they look nice Then using chalkline or yardstick mark off the foam in 2" or 3" or 4" increments both horizontally and vertically. Next with either an old solid iron soldering bar - heated (like in auto shop) or a small mason finishing trowel cut upside down pyramids into the foam. Make sure to leave ~1/4 - 1/2" of material in the bottom. Useing a nail punch some holes.

You have now made yourself some lightwieght starter seed beds. You can place some dirt of your choice in each pyramid, place your seed(s) and water. Let plants get big enough to transplant and carry them to the garden. The plants slip out easily as a wedge ready for planting.

As an alternative consider starting some exotic house plants etc. and sell the seedlings at flea market, roadside stand, in front of ?-Mart, spring planting season. I had my boys do this as a science project and it helped me to get a head start on the U-PICK operation.
HTH,
ShepFL


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 22:47:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
that would be cool - but it would be a time issue, working with an inspector makes it impossible to store any materials here on site till we need them - it's a case of use it or loose it...


ShepFL    Posted 09-06-2001 at 15:06:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
If time is the main consideration needed to pass inspection consider moving materials to a neighbor's barn, barring that you can generally rent an 8x10 storage shed (U-HAUL, Self Storage) etc. for ~$20/month. That should allow you to keep the materials (if wanted) and still pass inspection. Just a ramblin' thought. . .
ShepFL


Dreamweaver    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:44:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow! Now THATS an idea!!!!!


JoeK-word of caution    Posted 09-05-2001 at 14:16:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Many foam products of this type can give off deadly toxic gases if burned or overheated,depending on the composition,so if using heat on it etc for anything be very careful.I had a safety class on this in the 70s,but the memories are fading, along with the thatch covering the memory banks.


JoeK    Posted 09-05-2001 at 14:07:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Peel the wood facing,glue em up into ONE big block,get out your keyhole saw,and Presto!,you're a sculptor!Maybe a year-round snowman to start with to learn the basics,,,,,,LOL,or large boundary rocks,that move easily for mowing.


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:12:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey Joe -
now that brought a real giggle -
Picturing myself covered head to toe in fake snow - (I better not tell Lee about the target practice post or I might get poked!)
He LOLed at the snowman plan, he just bought a power chisel for carving and wants to do some big bears out of the giant logs we have here. So not practice for carving, but a good way to figure out perspective! Good plan. Thanks for the input.
PS. as to the next post above Re: fire issues -
yes we are aware, there will be no burning, as it was when we cleaned up from the roof there were chunks stuck to lumber here and there that ended up on the burn pile. We had multiple visitors when they saw the ugly black smoke...
so no risking the forest we love,
no contributing to the ozone issue,
and no making the neighbors crazy.....


Murphy    Posted 09-05-2001 at 12:40:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I saw it in the picture I thought of a bow target. Besides that, not much else came to mind. If you wanted to gather a lot of attention you could burn it! ;)


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:16:04       [Reply]  [Send Email]
hahaha as to the bow and other targets! One problem with that - it would make a great deal of fake snow as it was used and worn. and styrofoam has this funny way of traveling via static electricity - turns up in the oddest places. hahaha


magpie    Posted 09-05-2001 at 12:01:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
The stuff makes very good insulation, for burying water lines ect. Not exactily a fun thing but if your waterlines dont get frozen, that would be fun.


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 15:17:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It doesn't really get cold enough for long enough to need it for water lines - we insulated the hose to the trailer with a standard 10ft insulation specially made for pipe. Of course that didn't mean we didn't have problems tho!
Can you picture this: I get up to go potty in the middle of the night, Hhhmmm, water does not come to flush, Hmmm, I pull Lee's toe, hey sweetie - I think the water line froze...
I never saw him move so fast !!!
Like lightening he was out there (all the lights on in his robe with the heat gun.) Good thing I had to pee cause it froze at the main line access and not the insulated hose to the trailer. Once he got the main line open he let it run wild and go from a trickle to full blast while he hooked up a spare hose he had set aside. The rest of the night we let the faucet in the kitchen sink drip... we only had a few nights like that (cold enough to leave it dripping) but still...
your idea is good I'll relay it to him..


Dreamweaver    Posted 09-05-2001 at 11:41:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Denise, I just watched a program today on HGTV where a lady made cornices for her windows out of styrofoam and covered it with fabric, and then took a piece and put it in the middle, about an inch smaller on the front, and put a layer of foamrubber about an inch thick, covered this with a contrasting fabric and it was absolutely gorgeous! I was thinking during the program, "wonder where I could get styrofoam that size!" LOL Anyway, there was no sewing involved. She took a putty knife and inserted it over the fabric and pushed it into the foam and it stayed! Looked just like it had been sewn! You can probably read about it on www.HGTV.com.


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 11:48:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I can picture exactly what you are talking about! The styrofoam just grips the fabric huh? I think they even make a styrofoam friendly glue. Want to try some? How big a window do you want to do? It is soooo lightweight I could box a big chunk and send it off to you...


Dreamweaver    Posted 09-05-2001 at 12:31:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tell ya what....Work up a price and I'll buy it from you. Part of it that is. Don't think I could use it all. HOT DOG...... yes, the putty knife just pushed the fabric into the styrofoam and it stayed like magic! They build the cornice just like it was wood or something, and hung it from a bracket. It was fantastic. The padding on the front just give it added dimensions. I would not mind doing it all over my home....


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 18:09:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ok, I just came from the USPS site and we are limited to size only by girth (hahaha )
what size is the window you want to work with?
I'll ship a big block out to you,(no you don't have to pay) just send me back the postage OK?
Most of the blocks we have are 48 inches X something, but the USPS allows much more than that so we'll accomodate your window you want to do instead...
we have pieces to 8 feet long.
let me know your dimensions and we'll go from there - email or post your size and I'll send it out with our other eBay stuff.
Delighted to see something of real value can come of these - are you going to let us all see the pics???


Dreamweaver    Posted 09-06-2001 at 06:09:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Denise - it would be a pain in the bazoo to mail it to me. If you can get rid of it, go for it. If it's still hanging around in a week or two, I'll just drive up on a weekend and pop in and say hi!


paula Griffin    Posted 09-25-2002 at 08:17:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Where can I get styrofoam to do my cornices with
Paula


Jim(MO)    Posted 09-05-2001 at 11:32:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Do you have a pond? Looks like good flotation for a dock or raft.


Denise    Posted 09-05-2001 at 11:41:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Wow! There is a good thought!
Yep we have a pond, little decorative goldfish pond, hahahaha, all those would cover it about 5 times over!!! Do ya think the frogs in there need a few rafts? hahahahaa


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