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The Bar Mitzvah
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Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 12:48:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Went to NYC today for a friends sons Bar Mitzvah. What a great time. Lots of food, they danced a bunch and Michael made us proud. Women had to sit behind glass during the service. Had never been to Ultra Orthadox stuff before, quite interesting.

Salmoneye    Posted 09-01-2003 at 13:48:22       [Reply]  [No Email]

I lived in 'sin' for 5 years in the early 80's with a woman (actually she lived with me) who was of the Jewish persuasion...She had done her two years in the Kibbutzim in Israel, and had come 'home' to the states...Many of her relatives were Orthodox, and some were/are Hassidim...

Very interesting people...Wish I had not stopped with my Hebrew and Yiddish just cuz she left me...


Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:35:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Was surprised at the lack of the Black Hats today. Thought there would be a few. Always enjoy the parties with my Jewish friends, lots of food and dancing. Can't beat it.

~Lenore    Posted 09-01-2003 at 13:46:02       [Reply]  [No Email]

I saw part of one in Jerusalem at the Western wall or the Wailing Wall.
It was very exciting, I could tell.
Women are not allowed on the same side as the males.

Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:41:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
That's what it looked like.
What were you doing away from Texas?

~Lenore    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:10:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
...I leave occassionally;
but only for very brief periods
(10 days that time).

I went right after "Dallas" was on TV.
Arabs over there saw Texas on my luggage;
told me, "Spit on JR when you see him!"

I assured them I would. ;-)

Ron,Ar    Posted 09-01-2003 at 13:42:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why did the women have to sit behund glass? We don't have many of those Bar Mitzvahs down here, enlighten us.

Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:33:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ron, if I'm not mistaken it's because women are not on the same level as men. Thus should not be with them during services. At the lunch after they did the traditional dances with people held up in chairs.

Redneck    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:02:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Could you please explain what is meant by not being on the same level?

Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:59:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Rednack, A lot of religions consider females inferior.

Rednack    Posted 09-02-2003 at 01:03:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well Rindy I can't see it to be right.JMO

Fawteen    Posted 09-01-2003 at 17:18:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think perhaps "subservient" might be a more accurate word than "inferior", or at least has a less antagonistic connotation.

Fundamentalist Christian religions take the same view. Women are not to be placed in positions of authority over men, particularly in the church.

(The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the point of view of the management or employees of this station...)

Les    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:19:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Didn't you ever see "Fiddler on the Roof"?

Ron,Ar    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:47:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought you was the fiddler.

Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 15:38:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Les, I think you would've liked the music today. Sruli and Lisa did a real good job of keeping us entertained.

Les    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:09:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would've LOVED the music. Back in '99 when I went to the Smithsonian Folklife Festival, there was a Klezmer band from NH that also went. Now I had never heard the word Klezmer before and had no idea what it was. I'm telling you, we had more fun with those people. A couple of them were doctors. All were professional people who just do this for fun. I think the 6 or 7 of them make up about 20 percent of the Jewish people in New Hampshire ";^)
(Not really, of course, but there sure aren't many, especially up north here.)

Donna from Mo    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:35:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm so far in the Missouri sticks, I've never even MET a Jewish person, as far as I know. But then, I don't recall ever seeing an Afro-American until I was about eight years old.

Redneck    Posted 09-02-2003 at 01:02:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
What is an afro-american?That I take to mean they are from Africa and moved to America?

Donna from Mo    Posted 09-02-2003 at 02:02:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just trying the best I know how to be politically correct. I rather preferred the term "negro", but that fell out of favor in the 60's when someone decided they were "blacks". But that is a misnomer too, because most of them are a lovely shade of brown. The day will come when no such terms are needed, I suppose, and we'll all just be "people". I doubt that I live to see that day though.

~Lenore    Posted 09-02-2003 at 06:58:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought it was an American with an afro hair style, no mater what ethnic group. ;-)
Being politically correct changes from season to season.
It is almost impossible to keep up.
So I quit trying.
I believe negro was proper and correct like caucasian.
That was before the politically correct police took over our language
and began changing the meaning of words.

Redneck    Posted 09-02-2003 at 18:25:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought we were all supposed to be Americans here.If I'm of Cherokee and Irish heritage,I don't call myself that long term,and I ain't calling a black person an African American.If American ain't good enough,good ridance!

Randy    Posted 09-01-2003 at 16:58:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Others used to think they had horns. Around here, CT we have lots. My landscaping business is made up of 90% Jewish clients. And like most religions there are different "levels" of their belief. The ones I hang out with are known to eat pork and shrimp and such. There was none served today! Especially not in Temple!

Donna from Mo    Posted 09-01-2003 at 17:24:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh, the way I was raised, it was Catholics that had horns!!!! There were none of them in my little hometowns. Thank goodness I did grow up and find out they were just folks, like everybody else.

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