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Louisiana French - sub Poke Sallit
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Bev    Posted 09-07-2003 at 08:33:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Spence, that certainly is a different explanation than the others I got.

I wondered where you got your information about the French settlement of Louisiana. The french in Southern US did not come from Canada. They immigrated directly from France.

Unfortunately there was a great deal of persecution that the French suffered in Acadia at the hands of the British but they were never ousted. They perservered and became a successful contributing part of Canada.

A large percentage of the population of the Canadian Maritimes is made up of the descendants of the Acadians. The province of Quebec is 90% French and there are pockets of French communities throughout the rest of Canada.

Just wondered why you though the Louisiana French were French Canadian.


Bev    Posted 09-07-2003 at 10:46:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey; I just dropped back in and saw the overwhelming response to my posting. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my statements. I guess our perception of history depends on where we come from and how our history is conveyed. I sought out a website with a little more Canadian slant and this is what it said


http://www.francophonie.gc.ca/communit/ne_e.shtml

A brief history of the Acadians of Nova Scotia

In 1542, Italian explorer Verazzano named part of the eastern coast of North America Arcadia, after the pastoral region of Ancient Greece immortalized in Greek poetry. That coastal region is what is now Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Quebec and part of Maine. Over the years, the name changed to Acadia.

In the 17th century, there were a hundred French families in Acadia. The Acadians had a strong sense of community and gradually developed their own culture. They stayed out of disputes between the French and the British and developed friendly relations with the Aboriginal peoples, learning their hunting and fishing techniques.

In the early 18th century, the British government, doubting the neutrality of the Acadians, demanded that they swear allegiance to the British Crown. The issue would cause discord for decades to come. In 1755, British Governor Charles Lawrence decided to settle the matter once and for all by deporting the Acadians from Nova Scotia and dispersing them among the 13 English colonies, from Massachusetts to Georgia.

In 1764, the Acadians were granted permission to return to Nova Scotia; however, they were prohibited from settling in any one area in numbers great enough to form a self-sufficient society. The Acadians therefore spread out along the Nova Scotia coast and remain scattered across Nova Scotia to this day. The greatest concentrations of Acadians are in the following regions: Argyle, Chéticamp, Clare, Annapolis Valley, Halifax-Dartmouth, Pomquet, Richmond and Sydney.


Spence, my apologies, reading your response to poke salllit, I thought that you were saying that Louisiana was settled by the Acadians and I knew that La Salle named Louisiana and that it was owned and governed by France for a time. I would imagine that Louisiana appealed to the french from Acadia because it was already a french settlement. I knew that the British persecuted the Acadians but I did not realize that they actually deported them. Again I apologise.

Beverley




Salmoneye    Posted 09-07-2003 at 10:19:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Some of the first 'Cujuns' exiled were actually sent to the Northern 'Colonies of America' and settled here when they were 'asked to leave' Acadia...Some of those sent to Massachussets and Connecticut actually traveled north...There are still pockets of true 'Cujuns' in the NorthEast Kingdom of Vermont and the North West of New Hampshire...


Les    Posted 09-07-2003 at 09:57:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Probably because they are. Not that there weren't some who came directly from France but where do you suppose the word "Cajun" (Acadian) came from? It sure wasn't from France.


Bev    Posted 09-07-2003 at 11:46:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
I looked it up and Acadia was the Greek name given by an Italian explorer, Verazzano, to what are now the Canadian maritimes. Cajun is the slang word that the Adacians were called by in Louisiana.


I think...    Posted 09-07-2003 at 12:40:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
You should read the link that I posted earlier...

There is a major difference between the French Canadians, Acadians/Cajuns and the White Creoles of the far south of the US...

The 'French' people of 'New France' swore allegience to the King Of England...The 'Acadians' refused...That is why they were exiled...

The term 'Cajun' was a widespread Americanization of the name 'Acadian' by the 1860's, which to 'American' ears sounded like 'A Cajun'...

Salmoneye


Bev    Posted 09-07-2003 at 11:00:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
No your right "Cajun" and "Creole" (I think) are totally specific to the U.S. and more specifically to Louisiana. I believe they are both slang terms. I lived in Nova Scotia for a time and in Canada all my life and have never heard either word used as a part of our vocabulary except in reference to Louisiana and then most often in reference to Creole or Cajun foods.


toolman    Posted 09-07-2003 at 12:37:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
hey bev what part of N.S. are you from, i came from Springhill.


Bev    Posted 09-07-2003 at 16:31:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
We only lived in Lower Sackville for three years. It was beautiful there. I had always wished to live near the ocean so with Peggy's Cove and the Bedford basin just minutes away it was my dream come true.

Springhill is Anne Murray's home town isn't it?

We saw her this spring. They did a tribute to her being inducted into the Canadian Country Music Hall of fame which is here in Calgary and Gary Buck the president asked us to come. She did great.


toolman    Posted 09-07-2003 at 17:32:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
no springhill is my home town haha, yup thats where shes from she went to school with my older brother , he dad was about our only doc. for years,so your in calgary now , not far from me im just west of the PASS, your right about peggys cove , heathers beach is another beautiful spot, i hope to be able to go back (home) again someday,maybe we,ll see.still getting our smoke in cow town?


~Lenore    Posted 09-07-2003 at 09:38:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are French creoles (white original settlers) who imigrated from France. My grandmother's family did. My mother's brother married a cajun girl and I have cajun cousins. There are Cajuns (Acadians) who were run out of Canada and imigarated south to the US.
I grew up there and I have read the history of both groups. The name creole now is given to black French but was originally the elite French families who settled around the New Orleans area.

The article below explains much betteer than I can.


Thanks Lenore....    Posted 09-07-2003 at 09:50:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
for posting that....simplified explanation by a gentleman of education and who I may be related to as a distant cousin. My people settled in the area known now as Opelousas,Lafayette,Crowley,Church Point,Lewisburg,Breaux Bridge,Ville Platt,and several others. Again ....thanks for the link!
Clipper


Beg to differ...    Posted 09-07-2003 at 09:35:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
with you but Acadians were forced out of Nova Scotia and quite a few of them settled in southwest Louisiana....I am a full descendent of those hardy folks and my family has the records and history to dispel your theory very easily.Clipper the Cajun


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