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Snakes again
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Jenny    Posted 09-09-2001 at 22:17:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I asked a few days ago about geese to help with snake control. It'll be a while before we're settled enough to get geese. Yesterday morning I found what I'm about 80% positive is a baby copperhead right outside the door by the step (about three feet from where my 1 year old plays in the water pump.)

What do I do?? This makes me really nervous. The "snake thing" is the only reservation I have about living so far out.

The nearest hospital that I feel half way ok about driving my kids to is an hour away.

So, what do I need to have on hand to deal with a snake bite???

I've read that copperheads live in large communal dens. If this is true, how can I get rid of them???

This isn't the first time we've seen one of these in this spot. We've found three or four in the last couple of years but it didn't bug me b/c we weren't moving out there. Now we are and I've got to know what to do.

Thanks so much.

Jenny


Fritz    Posted 06-24-2004 at 17:01:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Learn to identify copperheads and then stay away from them or kill them. I like a 410 shotgun. There is also a product called snakeaway made by a company in Florida. You spread it on the ground
and the chemicals drive the snakes away with their unique odor. Be carefull as hell the bite from these snakes is painfull. They are also nocturnal. Be safe.


LarryAJ    Posted 09-10-2001 at 14:04:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Jenny

My farm is in a place called Flint Hill, VA., and guess what? we have LOTS of rocks. Copperheads love rock piles as my nieghbor reminds me every time he says he saw one in his rock pile. In the 15 years I have owned my farm I have seen one, a baby, copperhead. LOTS of black snakes though and I think they are the reason I see no copperheads.

I NEVER kill my Black snakes, though as the pictures show, I will catch them and release them in a "safe" place. My "theory" is that with the abundence of Black snakes there is no "excess" dinners running around to attract my neighbors copperheads.

It may take a while, but if I were you, I'd keep killing the copperheads. BUT never kill a black snake when you see one. Hopefully you can establish a population of Black snakes to eat your four footed dinners - there are ALWAYS going to be mice! You cannot get around that. Keeping them out of the house by closing up holes will keep the snakes out of the house and should keep them away from the house too.

It is too bad that so many people have an irrational fear of snakes. Just like being afraid of mice that are so much smaller than a human, it does not make sense. RESPECT for the poisonous ones is smart but should not make you afraid of the nonpoisonous ones. Actually the Black is quite a laid back snake. They calm quickly when handled gently, as if they sense you have no intention of making dinner of them. Now they will look FIERCE and coil back threatenly when cornered. I have even had them "rattle" their tails at me - in dry leaves it sounds just like a REAL rattler! But once you "call their bluff" all they want to do is get away.

I guess I should apologize to the gals for "snake talk", I do not mean to cause you the willies. The link is to more pictures of the snake, for those intrested.

Regards,
Larry


Miriam    Posted 09-12-2003 at 04:43:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not familiar with snakes, but saw a little one on my compost pile. Was it a baby copperhead? It was approx. a foot long, as big around as my index finger, had two-tone grey diamond design on back and its head appeared to be triangular. I saw a big black snake on my compost pile earlier this summer. He scared me, but I know they are good and understand that they will kill copperheads. Anxious to hear from you.


MikeH-Tx    Posted 09-10-2001 at 10:27:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jenny, a couple of additional suggestions. We keep a few outdoor cats to keep the snakes under control. I don't know how to prove how effective this is, but I have seen one of them corner a rattlesnake (I killed the snake before the cat tried to).

Also, call around and find out which hospital in your area keeps anti-venom. Even if it is not the closest, you need to know, so that if a snakebite occurs, you can get to the nearest hospital, but call first and have the anti-venom taxied from wherever and meet you there.

Regarding snake bite kits, the hospital that we contacted, (following my own advice above) suggested that more harm comes from using them than the snakebite itself. They recommend getting to a hospital quickly and forgetting any home remedy.

Also very important. Positively identify the snake, or kill it and bring it with you so they can.


Tom A    Posted 09-10-2001 at 03:16:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Pistol with birdshot (and practice loading, shooting safely, and handling) is a great idea for the poisonous snakes. But I discovered sometime ago when I thought I had a copperhead in the basement that my snake identification abilities were not very good, so you may not have as bad a problem as you think. Remember they are not all poisonous or harmful...many snakes help control rodent population so you shouldn't want to get rid of them all, just move them away from the house.

One thing you can do to keep the away from the house is to make the environment un-friendly for snakes. They love tall grass and weeds, piles of stuff (lumber, firewood, trash). Keep the grass mowed short, and move the main firewood storage away from where the kids play. Check out around your pump for a hole they may be living in and fill it with concrete if necessary. Seal around your house foundation with expanding foam--we had a major infestation of snakes in our basement when we first moved in 3 years ago because the basement is a perfect environment for them.

anyway, take care and good luck,
Tom


Les...fortunate    Posted 09-10-2001 at 02:31:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hmmm...real winter or real snakes. I'll take the real winter.


Dreamweaver    Posted 09-09-2001 at 22:28:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jenny, this looks like a good website for getting rid of copperheads. Good luck to you and please be careful.

http://www.nahra.org/wwwboard/messages/872.shtml


Phyllis    Posted 09-09-2001 at 22:23:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi. We have a LOT of snakes out here (Texas). I have lost count of how many we've found in the yard this season. Some copperheads, and a LOT of cottonmouths. I keep a pistol loaded with snakeshot. It's made just for that, and it scatters good so it's hard to miss. There are snake bite kits you can buy in camping/sporting good/hunting depts. in places like Walmart. I'd be careful about letting the child play anywhere that the snakes seem to like. Also, wear boots when you're out walking about. We have 4 big dogs in the yard and they are not keeping the snakes away, but they do spot them and let me know about it. Just be careful!


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