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Breaking a Dog from Killing Chickens
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Dreamweaver    Posted 09-10-2001 at 05:30:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
A friend of mine has a new puppy, and he also has free ranging chickens. Of Course the new puppy killed one of his chickens right away. He put the puppy in a kennel and tied the dead chicken around his neck and made him wear it like that during the weekend. I was very upset to hear it, but he says it is the only way to break a dog. Is that true, and if not, what are some other ways short of beating the poor animal.


Chi    Posted 08-23-2009 at 08:54:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This is a problem that I've come across many times during my years in agricultural settings, whether "out in the country" or "in town". The answer, unfortunately, is not the same for each dog. As a matter of fact I came here today looking for a NEW option in dealing with this very old question.

I continue to believe that this problem is almost 100% solveable, and so far have not personally been involved in a situation where it wasn't solveable. Dogs have been domesticated to be in relationships with humans for thousands of years, and generally they "live to please their "leader" ".

I have had the following methods work:
*Recently killed fowl tied securely around the neck of the dog until it rots, while keeping the dog "segregated" from the other dogs and humans (takes about 5-7 days). Obviously you provide the dog food, water, and shelter. This IN NO WAY harms the dog, and works almost every time.
The fowl must be tied securely and you should have as little interaction as possible without the dog during his "segregation", not even saying his name.
*put the dog on lead and take him into the general chicken area and use a "bark collar" (which I personally don't like to do, but better that than the continued killing of fowl or rehoming the dog) to give the dog a quick "zap" and a firm "stop" ("no" is used for too many lesser infractions) to let the dog know clearly what you are communicatind. This must be done several times a day for several days. Then release teh dog and sit where you can be comfortable and he can't see you, but within range of the collar. Have someone else go into the chicken area and feed/pet/inteact with chickens, watch the dogs recations- if he starts getting excited have the person in the enclosure tell him "stop" or "no" then they leave. The dogs interest may them be on the chicken area. Now you have to put in some time and patience and wait for the dog to return to the chicken area and see what his reactions are, whiel you sit within "zapper" range. When no one is around the dog must be segregated from the chicken area so they can't even get within sniffing/sight range.

A "simple" way to solve the problem, if you don't want your dogs near the chickens , but want your dog to be able to roam, is to put an invisble fence around the chicken area and an invisible fence collar on the dog... unfortunately I haven't figured out a way to put and invisible fence-like collar ON THE CHICKENS to keep the dog away form them! (LOL).

OK, good luck to everyone!
(and, seriously, the fowl around teh neck is not cruel to the dog, I think it's just as hard, or harder, on the caring dog owner... and, if you don't have chickens but have the dog with the problem, it is a caring thing to do for a neighbor who also cares for their pet.)


dude    Posted 07-04-2009 at 04:40:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have had problems with my dogs attacking chickens, ducklings, and goslings. Our grt. pyrs who were supposed to be their guardians would play with them until they died. We neutered the dogs and that solved that problem. However, we have a Chihuahua who chases every animal that moves when the mood suits him. While we praise him for killing gophers, the first time he killed baby poultry, we sharply reprimanded him and rubbed his nose in the poor little creatures body and yelled no. The second time he killed through the pen. We again reprimanded him and placed him in isolation for a few hours. Four two days he went about showing his shame. Yesterday, he jumped into the outdoor pen and killed 8 more babies. He is sleeping outside in a kennel tonight with a carcass as his sole companion. I don't know if it will break him of his habit but it is worth a try. I can't sleep because I feel bad for him but I also feel bad that he killed innocent little goslings. I am at my wits end. Sometimes, there are no solutions other than a new home. We had another dog who attacked our sheep. After trying muzzles (which he learned to remove), e-collar (which in two weeks he learned he could withstand some shock and then reach freedom and the sheep, and 3 large chain link kennels (which he chewed and broke through) we finally relocated him to another home. Anyhow, for some dogs, their predatory instinct is very strong.


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sad chicken mommy    Posted 08-03-2009 at 19:51:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
So, I have a rigdeback/hound and she killed 17 of my girls and want to know, does this work, to tie a dead chicken preferably the one they just killed, around the dogs neck? And how long do you leave it there?


marta    Posted 08-22-2009 at 07:51:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a golden retriever pup who loves to chase chickens as well as eat them! I also have a lab mix long haired collie who is 4 and very obedient and will sleep with the chickens, lol!!! My way of training is to put your dog on leash and go near the chickens and feed them water them and so on!! When the dog shows any sign of wanting to attack chickens you pull on leash and say sternly NO!! Then repeat this everyday until you think he can go in pen without leash and see what will happen! The dog will want to please you and if he knows that he is not allowed to hurt chickens then he will be obedient to your command! It works trust me. Obviously the chickens will have to be outside or somewhere where the dog is able to catch them! When my dog caught the third rooster I was thinking about finding him a new home, much research later, I realized this is the best way to train a dog to be nice to livestock.


Pam Stouffer    Posted 04-21-2009 at 06:44:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Iv.e also heard this from my mother in law who has had dogs and chickens her whole life and says that this does work but that they would leave the dead chicken round the dogs neck till it rotted


karima    Posted 06-01-2009 at 18:59:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My 2 year old dachsund killed two chickens...the first I wasn't sure it was him. Today I am sure.

I wrapped the chicken in netting wrap and hung it around his neck securely and he is in a kennel.

I feel like an Atlantis torturer and am afraid something will happen to him. And, I have just put money into chickens more for pets but will get eggs. Anyone/????


animal lover    Posted 04-03-2009 at 14:45:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
you people should be ashamed of yourselves for being proud to beat and tie your dogs up with a dead carcass of a chicken-are you totally uneducated-dogs are not humans they are DOGS so funnily enough they will act as dogs. I entered this site for some advice as my much loved and well cared for dog had killed one of my chickens-but obviously I am in the wrong place, it appears you people do not have animals for any other reason than to dominate-I am totally sickend by you wick shameful people.


Love all animals    Posted 08-22-2009 at 08:23:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
From all the comments, it is obvious even some "chicken trained" dogs just can't shake their natural instincts. My two outside dogs are neatly penned up, but when the opputunity arose, they bolted and managed to do a number on some chickens at a residencial home (which also houses turkeys, bunnies, sheep and an annoying rooster that wakes up the neighborhood every day). They were able to move a cinder block and barrel to get to the caged birds. I apologized up and down to the owner (who spat the "F" word at me continually and threatened to kill my dogs) and offered to replace the chickens, which I am. I feel bad, but after reading all the comments about people whose own dogs have killed their own chickens, I don't feel my dogs are "killer dogs" as the irate chicken owner told me. (He told me to get rid of my dogs & I told him to get rid of his rooster that wakes me up every day.) It seems to me that even a domesticated dog still has the natural instincts (some good, some not so good) that dogs have always possessed. Cut the canines some slack-they are animals.


deltadawn    Posted 05-27-2009 at 08:01:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
for many of us, chickens are loved animals that provide us with income, and joy. when a dog ( or any predator) is killing them it is money lost and time wasted. we love dogs too, but rules are rules. i personally do not see how tying a chicken around a dogs neck is torture, what about the poor defensless bird that got murdered? dogs need trained and its up to the owners to do it. farm life isnt all gravy, so get a grip. i lost 3 laying hens in 1 night,not only are we out money, but we are out the entertainment of our hens too. so, hang on people. train ur dogs with thatever works. however, i wonder if my neighbors would like seeing their dog with a dead chicken around its neck? it beats a .22 dont it? cause thats how it was on our farm when i was little. get a grip, and train ur dog, or better yet, get rid of ur chickens, since u dont want to stop the murders. when a dog starts laying eggs, and making money, they will get more respect. we love dogs, but like children, they need to be shown right from wrong.


Pam    Posted 04-21-2009 at 06:50:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I raise chickens and they are also a source of income. A older dog just moved into the rental upstairs and from day one started to attack my chickens and killed 8 in the first two days on the ranch. You have to do what you have to do to break the dog of the attacks and from experence this works and does not harm the dog but teaches it that his actions will result in this outcome as unpleasant as it may seem to you it does work and you are intitled to your opion


danny    Posted 03-31-2009 at 06:31:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a black lab named Little Rock now he is the best dog a person could ask for but he is killing our live stock.
We use to have 70 chickens and now we have nine most of witch where killed by him.
Now I want to tie the dead chicken around his neck but my mom won’t let me.
What we usually do is stick his nose in the carcass and slap him. But he is a bird dog when he sees
A bird flying he springs we just got 25 baby chicks and he seemed to be doing good until he killed 6 at one time the thing is he is proud of it he lays them out in nice row and stands there wagging his tale
As if he had just done us a service.
I just can’t stop him what can we do.
I need help.


Jaime Smith    Posted 04-09-2009 at 13:48:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
They did not beat the puppy.
Read again about the chicken killing puppy.


louise    Posted 04-02-2009 at 20:45:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
the only way I know of is to take dead chicken and tie twine around the chickens body then the legs and tie legs up on either side of throat behind ears of dog so dog cannot get its mouth on the bird, put the dog in a kennel, pen, stall or something where you can make sure it has food and water and basically leave the dog alone til the chicken rots off, then you will have to give the dog a bath befor you will want it around you but I can pretty much guarantee it won't bother another chicken


bev    Posted 12-23-2008 at 15:24:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I own a bb pellet handgun, and in the beginning I carry it with me outside. When my puppy looked interested in a chicken, I shot at her backside. After a few days of doing this, I don't care if she's 10 feet away from them? I sound it off. Now I'm putting it to work with my german shepherd. The Pyreneese was easy enough, so should the shepherd. Never, aim at the face, and be sure you're far away enough to graze the dog. BB's don't kill a large animal, but def scares them.


fish girl    Posted 06-16-2009 at 11:25:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
what if you didn't relize you could stop the dog before and now you have new chicks and no dead ones can you use a store boughten chicken or will that not work. Help I don't want to lose any more chickens.


Jim Jen    Posted 10-09-2007 at 19:31:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Puppy Training

We have a new puppy (Molly who’s a Brittany, 6 mon.) who is starting chicken training. I hope to periodically update you all as to the progress.

We only have three chickens and duck, but will be expanding. We had more birds but the fox and bobcat relieved us of them. The birds are strictly for home use and the birds are free range.

We have four dogs (2 Labs, 1 Retriever mix, 1 Great Pyrenees), all of whom are good with the birds. We got the Pyr as a puppy and it is her training that we are using as a model for the new puppy. The other dogs we got at a much older age. We never had a problem with them, but they are pretty obedient.

Our training method is similar to how a Livestock Guardian Dog (LGD) is trained. The difference is we are training to guard chickens not sheep. So, the demands of this training are a bit easier. All we need the dogs to do is guard a fenced area and to not eat or chase the chickens. Simple right?

Well, as one might imagine, puppies like to chase feathery objects that make interesting sounds, run, flap wings and fly a mere three feet off the ground; what fun. A key factor in the training is to break the association of chicken with fun. It is a sort of socialization process. Here’s how it goes:

Level 1
1. Once house broken, the puppy sleeps in a crate in the chicken coop.
2. The puppy eats meals near the chickens. We do this by feeding the dog next to the chicken coop with the birds near.
3. Chicken chores are done with the puppy tethered to you.
4. No playing is allowed. All other dogs or playmates (children, etc) are not allowed in the area when the puppy is “working” with the chickens.
5. The puppy is not allowed to chase the chickens. Any attempts are corrected with a snap of the leash and a bark-like “NO”.
6. Closely watched bird introductions are done. With the puppy on a leash, we hold a bird and allow the puppy to calmly sniff the bird. Excited attempts to “play” with the bird are reprimanded. We are trying to desensitize the dog to the birds, so this is done a several times.

Once Level 1 is working well – this can take a few weeks - we move to Level 2:

Level 2
Most of Level 1 still applies, except now we try some limited “off leash” interaction with the puppy and birds. All contact must be closely supervised. It is important that the dog is responding to your commands to not pursue the birds. Commands like “NO” and “Leave It” should be understood by the dog. We believe obedience from the dog is the critical factor.

If a chase does begin, one technique used to show your disapproval is to bark a “NO”, take the dog by the scruff of the neck and roll the dog on its side, now glare at the dog. This is similar to how an adult dog reprimands a puppy. As you might notice, for this to work you must be close and watchful of the dog.

Level 2 progresses with more time with the dog with the birds. The goal is for the dog to ignore the birds. No stalking, no excited lunges as birds dart around or fly to a roost, no staring imagining how tasty they might be, nothing. By the end, the dog shouldn’t even look at the birds and it she does she should be reprimanded, LEAVE IT!

So, that’s it. That’s the plan. I think if one can train their dogs along these lines, the dogs can be expect to behave whether the birds are fenced off or free range with the dogs.

How did we do? Well, Fluffy, our Great Pyrenees puppy is now 2.5 years old. Our chickens run free with the four dogs in a fenced in acre of yard. At some point after our little program, she apparently attacked a chicken. We expressed our displeasure. After which we have never had a problem. As testament to the breed, we have never had a predator loss with Fluffy on guard duty. She barks a bit, but keeps the fox and bobcat away. It is not as if she watches over the chickens, but they happen to be in her territory which she keeps rather secure. The Labs on the other hand have been rather useless in guarding the flock.

We have had the new puppy Molly for two weeks and she is already into Level 2 with our first off leash session today. She has improved greatly. Molly assisted me with letting the girls in for the night. We had some following of the duck into the coop and some nervous chickens, but no all out chasing of the birds. We hope this good progress will continue.

Jim & Jen


RamonaRanchGirl    Posted 01-04-2008 at 17:50:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Jim & Jen's answer was by far the most helpful. We raise and train wolf hybrids and until recently, had only lost two chickens. Recently, though, one of the females who was the best socialized has begun killing chickens, nipping at the goats and chasing the horses. She respects me as the alpha and immediately backs down when I reprimand her, but I'm concerned. I think two things are complicating this:
1. She's pregnant and in that "fight for extra food" mode that pregnant bitches get into a few weeks before whelping.
2. The chickens are dumb enough to challenge her for food. They love both dry and canned dog food (the little cannibals even eat chicken dog food) and a couple of the gutsy but not too bright ones tried stealing from her, which could have caused the problem.

The bottom line is that wolves are predators and chickens are prey. No matter how well they're trained, in unusual circumstances, such as pregnancy or adverse weather, the predator's natural instincts cause it to forget its training temporarily. I never deliberately kill or rehome any of my animals. When I take one in, I give it a home for better or worse. But I've been a farm girl all my life and know that death is part of life. It's a tough one for kids to learn, but a valuable one. Thanks for the ideas!


FedUp    Posted 08-26-2007 at 20:33:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I got up this morning to find feather all over the yard my husband and I had to go see what was going on well found the female dog eating a chicken we was worried about the rest open up the chicken house out runs the Male dog( he broke out of his kennel).He broke the back fence of the chicken house that was secure. The female dog has grown up around chickens everytime my husband opened the chicken house she would run from home.We lost 5 broilers and 5 egglayers Well today I was fed up so we loaded the dogs up in a kennel to take them to human society only for there kennels to be full so they are back home with us. I am not sure if there is any hope for dogs and chickens we had to take two dogs human society last year cuz all they was doing was eating chickens. We need a dog out here to protect us from other animals but what to do?I tried the chicken around the neck last time that was a joke for our dogs.


Kristin Phillips    Posted 10-24-2007 at 17:11:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Hi! i have a problem like that but worse. Our dog is part Retreiver
and Great Pyrenees he has killed at least 35 layers. seeing dead
chickens makes me very sad most of the time i cry. Van wares a
chain collar so most of the time he breaks the chain and starts
killing any chickens in the yard. Do you have any info on how to
make him stop without getting rid of him? Van is a very nice dog
he's big too, but my family just wants him to stop. PLEASE HELP
MAKE HIM STOP.


Heather    Posted 06-24-2008 at 10:47:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
When my dog is under close observation she does not kill the chickens,ducks,etc. The only way to keep her away from them when I am not there is to build a fence for her. It does not have to be an expensive one. Just something that will keep her in and away from chickens. Mean while I will look for a bell to tie around her collar so "They" will at least hear her coming and maybe plan to get away.


Tracy belle    Posted 02-17-2008 at 11:55:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Breed is soooooooooo important try great pyrenees


matt    Posted 07-29-2008 at 07:48:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We have two great pyrenees. They have a large area to run and goats to protect. They get along great with people and kids. However, their favorite past time (while we are not watching) is to play with the chickens, which usually has fatal consequences for the birds, unfortunately. The birds usually are injured/traumatized, but not eaten. For this reason I believe it can't just be all about the breed of the dog. They are very smart and will only do this when we are away. If we are in sight, there could be thirty chickens right next to the dogs (even eating their food) and they just sit there like they don't even know what's going on. But, when no ones looking (to their knowledge, anyway) that's when the action begins.We have seen them doing this, unaware we could see what's going on. For us the best solution has been to remove the dogs from the fenced area to roam free. This, sadly, still does not get to the root of the problem.


Cody Wood    Posted 03-28-2009 at 16:02:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have the same exact problem that you have described. If you receive any helpful hints, please pass them on.


Marsha J Eakes    Posted 03-23-2008 at 00:57:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you put an electric wire around the dog pen it might keep him in. My neighbors dog was jumping her chain link fence this trick cured her problems.


Adair Lee    Posted 10-28-2007 at 02:14:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I've been having the same problem with my Siberian Husky, Kiba. To date, he's killed one of my neighbor's goats, a rooster, a chicken, and injured 2 other goats. Now, my neighbor lives a good bit down the road from us, and so I was obviously shocked to get the call. Thankfully, the neighbor also understood, and did not simply shoot him.

How I've gone about correcting him so far is keeping him on a cable in the yard so he can't leave our home. I know it's hard to hear sometimes, but some of these dogs are just bred to run, and that tends to get them into trouble. I work a really late to early nightshift [5:30pm to 4am or later], so it's really hard to keep an eye on him. So, I cable him when I'm not home or asleep and let him run a little bit when I am.

Is it possible to possible cable/tie your dog somewhere near the chickens where he can see and somewhat interact with them without having free reign to kill them?

Don't think to put a dog down or to get rid of him just for being a dog acting on instincts. Dogs=Predator. Chickens=Prey. It may be very difficult to break them of killing, but perhaps it's just better to keep them contained somehow when you're not able to supervise him. Make sure to interact with him while he's on the cable when you ARE home too, so he doesn't come to resent it and fight against it every time you tie him. I have Kiba trained to where he just walks to the cable every time I say "Let's go!" in a nice, calm voice, and he stands patiently while being cabled. It is meant as somewhat of a punishment, but it shouldn't be approached in such a way to where the dog just "rebels" in a sense.

And maybe get him a different collar that is more secure than a chain. I've had zero trouble out of the regular old collars that fasten like a belt. Best collar I ever paid little money for.

Hope that can be of some help to you! Good luck!!


marsha sugart    Posted 10-05-2007 at 13:37:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well, I can't say it would work for every dog, but it worked for mine. I went to work and my boyfriend was off that day. We had 1 rooster and 1 chicken, when I came home, my boyfriend had tied the dead chicken to my dog, on a long rope. Needless to say, I was upset. But, to date she has never killed another chicken and they roam at the same time. I now am babysitting my daughters dog, and am about to try it myself, as he wants to bite them every chance he gets. I'll keep you posted.


The Natural State    Posted 05-18-2007 at 07:54:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If I understand correctly, this is an advice/help message board. It is sad to see that some believe it to be a forum for trading insults. Just because one's method of correction does not agree with another's it does not make either person less intelligent than the other. Now that I have vented.......The problem as I see it is to try to prevent dogs from killing chickens. I think that we understand the nature of dogs, ie hunter instincts. Most of us in this type of forum can not have others train our animals but I have seen some dogs so highly trained as to sit for hours waiting on a command and this training was from uneducated farmers. It is what we have the time and patience for and what the dog has the ability to accept. That is if the problem is with our own animal. If the problem is with neighborhood animals then check with your state, county, or local laws and ordinances. Where I live if you feel that your family, pets, or livestock are threatened then you may kill the offending animal. What you may not do is to print out the laws and ordinances, put them in an envelope and tape that envelope to the offending dog and send it back home. I tried that. Does that make me a moron or just give me a sense of humor? (I did not use duct tape, just plain ole tape.) Phone calls didn't seem to work. Dogs will dig under fences and kill chickens. They will also chew the legs and ears and skin off living rabbits in rabbit hutches. Responsibility and Common Sense. I don't know about answers but they are a beginning.


RJ Smithee    Posted 04-25-2009 at 12:15:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
So first you call out others for their insults and then start with the "uneducated farmers" crap. C'mon! I have an BS Degree in Agronomic Sciences from a major Big 10 university as did my father and his father, we have run the same farm for six generations. While I know many farmers who have not been to college, I have never met a single one who was "uneducated". Perhaps many do not have a college degree as I have, but most of them have more education than my Phd. professors.

-- OK now _I_ vented . .


K.    Posted 06-18-2009 at 13:23:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I believe your answer to the post above yours was quite hasty. I came on here looking for some answers to help train a dog to ignore chickens... And have found very little in the way of solutions other than one or two posts.

So, now that I've vented about that, I feel that I should tell you that your reaction to the previous post was quite overblown. The choice of words was poor, yes, but the term "uneducated" does in NO WAY infer "unintelligent". I believe what that person meant to say was that these incredibly well-trained dogs were trained by farmers with no FORMAL education, but were highly intelligent and therefore able to train their dogs better than some with quote-un-quote "higher education."

So before you jump on your high horse about all the insults, consider the intention of the author's words. Especially since in your haste to answer, it makes you look rather foolish.

And also, simply because one has their Bachelor's doesn't make them suddenly hyper-intellegent, either. It just means they did their four years and managed to graduate. Some of the smartest people I've ever met were barely able to finish grade school, and some of the stupidest have been those with graduate degrees.


Paul Granchukoff    Posted 03-18-2009 at 07:11:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a Jack Russell Terrier (3 year old fixed female), and will be raising chickens. I was told a electric shock stick would do the trick!Right on the behind!!!!!!!!


Jaime Smith    Posted 04-09-2009 at 14:06:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My 2 jack russells are too fast, could never catch them to dicipline. I have to keep my Chickens penned up. Nothing moves on this place that it dosen't get nailed. We have no problems with mice, rats, pack rats, and cats people dump, all get eliminated. No one comes on the property that the alarm is not sounded. They are fine little dogs.
Sure, wish I could let the chickens out, but this is the only way I can have both.


Amelia    Posted 08-08-2008 at 14:43:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I considered myself somewhat educated with a Master's degree and I also have chickens on a farm. I just want to clear up one thing concerning your assumption that farmer's are uneducated. My brother is also a farmer with a degree in Animal Science.
It makes me sad to find lofty people with such notions that farmers are uneducated. I know people with Doctorate degrees who can't train their dogs. Imagine that.


Angie McArdle    Posted 04-26-2007 at 16:54:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We have three dogs and they have killed two ducks,and five chickens, and have injurd two chickens and they are not mean when we are around but when we are gone they kill them! How would i be able to prevent this from happening?


Penny Moore    Posted 05-30-2007 at 13:35:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am having the same problem...where do we turn? Ours are fine as long as we are rt there...but when we leave them alone or turn our backs they kill the chickensand cats! We have lost ten...


Cynthia    Posted 03-20-2007 at 10:52:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I just got a puppy and we have chickens ,
she has killed one and injuerd two.
I would like to know if there is any way of
breaking this habit?
Thank you,
Cynthia


Dana    Posted 05-03-2007 at 16:29:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I wish I knew. My Nefoundland Chesapeak mix just killed two of our chickens and we have 3 unaccounted for I think we will are going to find her a new home or be forced to put her down and I really am heart broken about that. Good luck


Ruby    Posted 03-26-2007 at 00:43:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
We also have a dog who has been killing our chooks and won't listen to us, but i resently went on a web site called, www.petproblems.com.au and it said that you need to become the leader.
But the dog is only doing what it would do in the wild. Sometimes they are only trying to get attention, they try a behaviour and if you give them attention they will do it again. The dog might be hungry or might want some exitement.
Observe in the way in which you interact with the dog, think like a dog. some of the leadership skills are:
Lead the way through life
Eating determined by you
Attention seeking by your terms
Demand comands be obeyed

if you don't know what i'm talking about, just go on the website.

but you can teach them basic commands like sit, stay, call out there names angrily when their being bad and nicely when their being good.
when they do kill or be bad, tell them of straight away and lock them up and don't give them attention for a period of time.

but most of all you have to make them respect you.


M DeFee    Posted 06-15-2008 at 08:56:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I tried going to the website www.petproblems.com but only got links to various other web sites selling products or animals. Where is the discussion on that site?


anne    Posted 03-06-2007 at 11:17:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i have a neighbor whos 4 dogs have killed 12 chickens 2 pot bellied pigs, a group of guinnes, a ribit in a cage on my back porch, which they burrowed under the fence to get to. A rooster, and have snapped at my 2 year old, made my son swerve on his 4 wheeler and bicycle numerous times (i dont know how he stayed on all wheels)and to top it all off one of them attacked my dog in my own yard while eating my dogs food. we have asked them too many times to count to please pin their dogs and the only reply we've gotten is "looks like we're having chicken for dinner" and the same comment for each animal. I've been tempted to call animal control or take aim at the dogs but i'm afaid of what might happen to our other animals if i do. Just wanted to ask for any suggestions on this matter.


cherie    Posted 09-18-2007 at 19:50:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Shoot the dogs next time they come around. See how these people like there animals killed. That was my first instink but I guess that wouldn't solve anything. However I would shoot them with a hose. Dogs hate that and they will stop. Otherwise get a pellet gun or a meaner dog that is like a sheep dog that will watch over your flock. My mother in law has had trouble with kyoties killing her chickens and ducks. She bought a Pulli Pup and she's 6 months old now has never been trained and the other day a cyoty grabbed a chicken and her pulli jumped the cyoty and saved the chicken. I would by a sheep dog though Pullies are expesive


Ron Millet    Posted 05-06-2007 at 16:18:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
When I was a young teen, living in the city, my dad had his business on a busy street. On the same block, around the corner we lived in our own residence, and between the business and our house my parents owned several old houses and apartments. Right on the corner lived a family with a big yellow dog that several times would terrorize me riding from my house to the business on my bike.

The last time he did it, I rode the long way around the block back to my house. I went into the Kitchen, got a squirt gun out of a drawer that belonged to my little sister. I loaded it with household ammonia.

Then I rode my bike again in front of the rental house again, and the yellow dog came after me on my bike again, barking and snarling to beat all.

While still moving on the bike, I twisted around on the bike, took aim, and squirted the dog directly in the eyes.

The dog never chased me again.


D.SCHUK    Posted 04-16-2007 at 09:40:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I HAD ALMOST THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY NEIGHBORS DOGS.THE DOGS CAME ON MY PROPERTY AND WENT AFTER MY KIDS AND KILLED TWO OF MY DUCKS.I PHONED THE LOCAL SPCA AND BECAUSE WE LIVE OUT OF TOWN THEY SAID THEY COULD'NT HELP US BUT PHONE THE POLICE AND ASK THEM WHAT WE COULD DO.WHEN I PHONED THEM THEY TOLD ME TO SHOOT THE DOGS AND THAT I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO PROTECT MY LIVESTOCK.THE POLICE HAVE TO UPHOLD THE LIVESTOCK PROTECTION ACT.I THEN SEEN THOSE DOGS CHASING DEER AND CALLED THE FISH AND WILDLIFE ,THEY WENT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND TOLD THEM THAT IF THE DOGS WERE EVER SEEN RUNNING LOOSE AGAIN THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT AND DESTRY THE DOGS.IT DOES SOLVE ONE PROBLEM BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE DOG OWNERS I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO OWN ANIMALS IF THE ARE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONCEABLE FOR THEIR ANIMALS.


Robin Friend    Posted 04-07-2007 at 09:18:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I think you are long beyond thinking about calling the authorities. You absolutely need to notify animal control or law enforcement about these dogs. This behavior is unacceptable at the least, and their negligence in controlling their animals may be criminal. The next victim may be a child.


Kasi    Posted 11-03-2006 at 21:07:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
About a month ago, I was a nice neighbor and took
their dogs back that were running in my farm house
yard. I returned home tonight to find all but 8 of 25
chickens laying dead in all over my yard. I tried calling
my neighbor but he would not pick up his phone. If his
dogs are ever on any part of my land I will shoot them
without giving it a second thought.


Poster passing by    Posted 03-08-2007 at 03:45:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Report the dogs before a child is hurt or worse


Julie    Posted 12-26-2006 at 13:23:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I need to find a way for the dogs to leave my chickens alone!!!!!
On Christmas day, my most favorite dog (2 year old mini Schnauzer whom I call my little boy) somehow got under the fence to the chickens and harassed my chickens. One hen got killed and my favorite rooster is injured pretty badly. (We had to separate him from the other chickens because they would peck at his wound and make it worse.)Feathers everywhere!! The 2 dogs we have are house dogs and are let outside to roam free on our 13 acre farm on a routine schedule. We have had the chickens now for 4 months. We are first time chicken owners. They are beautiful birds and we are proud of them and the sucess we have had in raising them. We have done all our homework before we got them. We got them for egg laying and some to butcher for eating. It just makes me mad that my dog that is fed well and cared for just for fun goes and tears up the chickens. I know I am going to butcher some of them sometime for food for my family and I, but at least then they would die quickly at butchering time and not suffer like the way the dog did it!
Now my dog has to be on a tie out and we have to come up with a better chicken fence to keep the chickens in. Because my dog is on a tie out now, I have to spend less time with my chores and training my horses now to make sure my dogs get enough exercise now since they do not have free roam of the farm to burn off extra energy, like they were able to do for the last 3 years!!! If dogs do not get the exercise they need, they develope behavioral problems. Just watch Cezar Milan on Animal Planet or the History channel. He will tell you that dogs with lack of exercise develope some sort of problem.
I really need a resolution to this problem!! I love my chickens and love my little dog.
What do I do? I don't want to get rid of the chickens or the dogs.


smith    Posted 10-12-2006 at 04:30:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have the same question, I have a one year old female lab, that will not stop killing our chickens. Recently she got in the chicken pen and killed all but two, and she injured them. My husband says to tie the chicken around her neck, but I don't know if it will work or not, Help!!


Louise    Posted 03-21-2009 at 08:48:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have lived in the country for many years and an old farmer taught me a long time ago when I had a bluetick coonhound something that really worked, take the dead chicken, tie it around the dogs neck with a piece of light rope like bailing twine and leave it there till it rots off - usually 3 days or so in warm weather, I've used it on 3 dogs and it has always worked


Lucy    Posted 06-28-2006 at 00:40:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We just got a new dog which has been trained for hunting but the people got rid of it as it wasn't a good hunter as it was too scared. Now the dog "hunts" our chickens. Is there any way that I can untrain the dog. It doesn't seem to care about them when they are in their coop, just when they are outside.


NHtimbercutter    Posted 06-21-2006 at 18:17:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
First time here. Is there any sembailance of order to the way the post show up? I didn't read all becuase it jumps from 06 to 01 and so forth.


Anyway to original question: Tri tronics shock coller. Things work wonders and dogs dont (if done properly) associate it with you.


Ryan K    Posted 06-16-2006 at 04:40:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have 3 Jack russels ,i trained them as puppies buy leaving them with a visious rosecomb cockerel for half an hour and now they live quite happily with the chickens and chicks but still bring home rabbits and rats


tammy B    Posted 10-11-2005 at 15:57:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I need help. My Dashund who is almost 2 has killed so many of my chickens from day olds to over a year the total is up to about 12 and it is devastating to me and my children we just bought a male german shepherd he is 14 weeks old and I caught both of them this after noon munching on my two favorite egg layers I was breathless. I did bury them becasue we have names for all our 45 chickens well 43 now, and I could not bear to tie it around there necks for as well as my little guy comes in all the time only goes out to go potty but he got out the door with out me knowing. I need to know how to stop him from killing, I have beaten him with the chicken and yelled at him bad he looks at me and knows he has done bad but contunies to kill them with out fear. Any one can call me a animal hater but that is not true this is a pet that is killing my FOOd supply and animals need to stop killing somehow, and if all dogs killed chicken slike it seem sthat way you would not have eggs to eat chickens to fry in the oven good eaten but lets leave that to the humans, besides our chickens are our pets as well as our dogs but our chickens are more value to use becasue the produce food for us and a chore for my children to collect the eggs, so any one who could help Please thanks you


Terese    Posted 02-04-2007 at 20:37:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
We had a dachshund who had the habbit of killing our chickens. One day he was on a yard lead and got himself tied up so that he could not move. My father all of a sudden heard him howling in despair. He looked out the kitchen window only to find "Big Red" one of female hens pecking/antagonizing him. My dad laughed and let the chicken continue for about 10-15 minutes. From then on our doxie never bothered a hen/rooster/baby chick again. Don't know if this helps, but if you know of anyone with a mean Hen/Rooster I suggest setting them up for a play date...


Carolyn    Posted 09-21-2006 at 18:34:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Get a mean setting HEN,she'll take care of the dog.I have a old hen who thinks she's the Boss,If my dauchunds go near her,she'll flog them and peck them,they are afraid of her,she is the BOSS!!My Rhode Island Red Hen is very smart,she goes out in the day and comes to the house an hour before dark to sleep inside a dog creat inside the house at night.Have you tried obedience class,with voice comand?Teach the dog who is the Boss and in charge,or a silent whisle may work when they are in action,you must catch them in action to break them.


Tishia    Posted 06-16-2006 at 10:34:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a dachshund that continues to kill out chickens also. We
have hit her with the chicken and tied it around her neck. Because
they are so low to the ground she just continuted to eat the chicken
once it was around her neck. I too am stumped as to what to do. If
you were offered any adivice please feel free to share. Thanks


ldevoll    Posted 11-15-2005 at 22:59:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
here's the deal: dogs have a strong instinct to catch and kill things like chickens. I bought my first chickens about a year and a half ago. All of my dogs were full grown at the time and all them wanted nothing more than to snack on those juicy lookin' chickens. Fortunately I have always had a sturdy pen to keep my chickens in and so all the dogs could do was dream. Then a couple of weeks ago I had gotten so fed up with these 5 extra roosters that I had that were keeping my hens from eating, that I threw them out of the pen, without regard as to whether the dogs got them or not. There was nothing else I could do. To my complete surprise, the dogs not only did not chase them but they looked at them with complete disgust and walked away. One of them, the blue heeler (notorious chicken killers)even coward in fear as one of the roosters sauntered over to where the dog was tied up. It has been a couple of weeks and all are still alive and doing very well and I love having chickens in the yard. The moral of this story is: full grown dogs must be around, but not able to get to, chickens long enough that they become desensitized. There instinct seems to lessen as they have enough time to accept them as a normal part of the landscape and not a tasty meal. I think puppies will always chase them and dogs that are still dealing with the instinct will chase them. Given enough time that instinct sort of gets overridden. My dogs will tease these roosters some. One dog runs at them just enough to get them to flap and run a few feet away and then she stops and leaves them alone. Sort of a doggy practical joke, I suppose. :) I hope this helps somebody.
P.S. The reason I think that the beating the dog with the dead chicken thing and tying it around their neck thing don't work most of the time is because the dog is still controlled by that strong instinct. I'm sure that when it has worked it was just because of that particular dogs personality or because it become desensitized and just lost interest.


Cindy L    Posted 03-16-2005 at 14:01:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ok, my new puppies have been killing my chickens. Sounds like the electric fence and dead chicken is the way to go. Do you think the dog will grow out of this or not?


Marli Cheung    Posted 09-02-2004 at 13:17:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You people are truly sick and backwards. Killing a dog for killing chickens!!! Why do you even own dogs???!!!! Tying a chicken around the dogs neck????That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Talk to a proper dog trainer about training dogs, or read a book...if you guys can even read in the first place. It's totally natural for dogs to attack small animals, it's the prey instinct and unless trained and raised otherwise in a "humane" and loving environment they're going to continue to do it. Have you people heard of building a chicken coop?


louise    Posted 03-21-2009 at 09:01:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
You obviously know nothing about country life, the trick with the chicken around does not hurt the chicken, its dead, but it is disgusting, you need to have a place to pin the dog up til it rots off and it will NEVER want to get near a chicken again and in the country it is a matter of servival, this is you food source that is being demolished and any dog chasing livestock is leagally shot, which would you rather have a dead dog or one with a chicken around its neck for a few days


louise    Posted 03-21-2009 at 09:01:28       [Reply]  [No Email]


Pissed Off    Posted 02-09-2007 at 19:34:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
HELLO MORON!!!!!!!!!!! Did you ever think that a dog could dig into a coop?! My dobermanns sure keep doing it. I put concrete around the fence so they ate through the wire fence!!! Some of us have no choice but to try everything. However, I do agree that you shoudn't kill the dog. You should give it away!


drake    Posted 10-04-2007 at 17:11:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am a dog trainer I will also tell you that the only way to stop a dog from killing livestock is yo tie the dead animal around there neck for a few DAYS or get a shock collar turn it on high get somewhere they dont notice you and whenever they get about two feet away mash the magic button thi method takes a little longer about four solid days


Aidan    Posted 05-03-2007 at 19:40:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
It is called spell check. Look into it.


Irritated    Posted 01-25-2007 at 15:29:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would rather coop my dogs than my chickens! I'm so irritated by people who value one life over another. The dog is the one causing the problem. Don't punnish the chicken for it! Keep your dog contained until it is under control or spend some time training it! Don't be cruel to another animal because your dog has problems!


Amanda    Posted 01-12-2007 at 19:19:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yea, Cheung you dont know what you are talking about. YOU may not care about your chickens, but these people do.A life for a life. If some strange dog comes into my yard and kills my chicken(s), it will be dead. Cry about it. It is going to happen anyway. This space is for people to write about their experiences, and give advise. it is not for people like you to call people names and critisize on experiences you have not even had. I have had my chickens killed by a dog, so i know the feeling of having my beloved pets killed. THE DOG EVEN ATE ONE OF MY PET CHICKEN'S LEG WHILE IT WAS ALIVE I HAD TO AMPUTATE THE POOR THING'S LEG!That dog is dead. I would have done it again especially after seeing those rude remarks you posted. ANYTHING that messes with my chickens are dead. They are my pets, just like a cat or dog is and it pisses me off to hear about ignorant beings such as yourself repremending these good people like children, you should be ashamed...

ok im done...


Trish    Posted 04-26-2007 at 18:58:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I agree Amanda, I am an owner of 21 chickens, oh... make that 16 now that two bird dogs with no licenses came on my property when I wasn't home and killed 5 of my beautiful chickens. These dogs are new in the neighborhood and have been on my property before where I had to catch them and call their owner to pick them up. The owner had promised to install an electric fence but never got around to doing so. Our sweet neighbor that lives across the street from us heard our chickens screaming and discovered the dogs were chewing and killing them. she couldn't get them to stop so she called the Police who in turn contacted the dog warden who arrived at our home appoximately 25 minutes later and took the dogs. the owner had no clue where his dogs were until my husband went to his house to tell him. He appologized but he was tld by the dog warden to make restitution before they couod be released and of course to buy licenses for them and they would be returned to their owner. The owner promised to pay us for our loss but now that he has his dogs he doens't want o pay us what we want. I think the hardest part about this is our 7 year old child is heart broken and is grieving for her chickens. She loves them just like she would love our cats or ducks. She even had a couple chickens blessed at our church. OUr chickens are traumatized and are not laying eggs very well. They are Rhode Island Reds and good egg layers but hardly anything now.


Agi    Posted 04-13-2007 at 09:21:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
you go girl!! I completely agree.


trtldove76    Posted 07-19-2006 at 11:24:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I Had a stray dog come into my yard last night 3:00AM and kill 1 of my ducks and 3 chickens. I saw the dog last night a German shepherd looking dog. I chased it out of the yard twice than got the BB gun, I hit it several times but each time it still got away. I finally went and got a bigger gun but didn't see the dog again. Unfortunately) After two hours of watching now 5:00AM I finally fell back asleep only to wake at 7:00AM With every last one of my livestock gone. My husband and I found 4 hiding. I hope more come. But I doughty it. 29 Chickens and 6 ducks were stolen from me. And I tell you right now If I see that dog again I am shooting no questions asked.


Jessica    Posted 02-10-2007 at 20:16:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with you completely!!! We always have hawks and stray cats to worry about. We deffinitly don't need every nieghbors dog killing them!!!


CB    Posted 03-24-2006 at 10:44:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ms Cheung
Your insensitive email proves you are a moron. My chickens were in a closed chicken coop, and dogs managed to open the door after trying for hours to find a way in. If those dogs came back, they would definitly be shot and killed, as they have no right on my property or killing my livestock. Have you heard of free range eggs or chickens? Well, if I free range my chickens on my property, dogs have come in and obliterated my entire flock.


Rod    Posted 04-07-2006 at 21:50:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You're foolish and insulting comments show you to be the ignorant one. These people are asking for help because they're doing the only thing they know to do and it has not worked. I have experienced the same problem with a new puppy and I'm stumped for what to do, like the others posting on this sight, I'm looking for the type of help you so rudely suggest these people seek. They hope to save the dog as well as the chickens. The life of a dog is no more valuable or deseving of life than are the chickens lives regardless of your personal feelings about either animal. A dog that indiscriminately kills any animal after being disciplined for this should be considered a dangerous animal around pets, small children and any small animal, and possibly people in general. In the future, please withhold you childish comments unless you can make them in the spirit of constuctive critism and helpful advise, your disrespectful tone helps no one and has no wisdom to offer.


Caleb    Posted 12-02-2005 at 19:55:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Have you ever heard haerd of a dog pen???I am only 12, but I am old enough to know that if a dog kills a chicken to beat him with it and if that does notwork then you shoot it. YOU know a chicken has just as much right to live as a dog does.


Jessica    Posted 02-10-2007 at 20:32:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey kid, how stupid can you be!!!!!! If you claim to be so SMART you should know that dogs DIG you retard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm only 16 and I know that!!!!!!!


Ryan Ingram    Posted 11-22-2004 at 11:39:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
What dog training institute did you graduate from. If tying the dead chicken to the dog works, use it. If you think that any person that lives in the country and raises chickens is going to waste their hard earned money on a trainer, you have lived a sheltered life.


april    Posted 06-26-2008 at 20:40:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
dud jessica!!! wtf?!?!?! ok im only 12 also and i no how it feels to have my pets(chickens) kill and/or malled buy dogs....hey and guess what!:we put what was left of our flock in a chicken coop, we put concret and sunk the pen walls in the dirt...ah simple coop wont do anything exsept give the dog ah good exersize....


anyways....im about to get ah puppy..she is really sweet and is more of ah lap dog that ah chaser.she is ah chow/lab mix...lots of lab in her...and she has been to my house befor and she is completly terified of the birds..i set her buy one,it clucked and she ran away sqweeling,lolz it was ridiculous :P,anyways im trying to get my parents to give her a chance,im about 99.999% sure she will be ok with the birds but just incase sometihng happends and she gets interested in them anyone got any ideas to PREVENT the killing????


A T    Posted 05-16-2005 at 11:36:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This did work for our dog. It was just one day. He had to drag around the chicken and he was big enough to drag it at the time, it just got in his way a lot. He quickly learned the lesson. I think one day of carrying around a chicken was a lot better than a lifetime of being tied to a tree. Have you ever cleaned a chicken coop?? Don't think so.... Our veterinarian who was highly educated recommended this remedy and it did the trick. I'm sure he can read!!


RS    Posted 07-02-2007 at 08:16:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have two Rat terriers. Our neighbor across the road has chickens, we have lived here for almost three years with no problems, and now all of a sudden our dogs have killed 5 (two roosters!) of his chickens! I feel sick! I understand both sides of the fence here, I know that the loss of your chicken is awfull! People get attatched to their pets and love them. My dogs are like my children! I love them very much, but know that this cannot happen again. We gave our neighbor permission to shoot them if they are over there again, it breaks my heart! But I understand that something has to be done. We are going to try the chicken around the neck and see what comes of it. If that doesn't work I am afraid I will have to find new homes for my "kids". That kills me, but them getting shot would kill me even more! Now we are pinning them AND tying them up, but that cannot be the solution, we are not pet owners who are okay with keeping our dogs pinned or tied up all the time, dogs need to be able to run. What kind of life is that for them if they are tied up all the time? My neighbor is also a friend, and I really feel terrible about his chickens, so we are working together on this solution. If anyone has any suggestions please feel free. Although I don't see the need to be disrespectful to eachother please. Thank you!


Desiree' Chisholm    Posted 05-03-2005 at 18:14:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think your right. killing a dog or tying a dead chicken to one is totally retarded. It is a dogs nature to kill small animals and they shouldn't be tortured for being themselves.


Jessica LUCKY Davis    Posted 02-10-2007 at 18:12:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
NO you shouldn't punish them for being themselves. But that doesn't give them the right to kill cats and chickens when ever they want to! I tried to tie a chicken around my dog but he got the rope loose and ate the chicken!!! I had to tie him in the chicken pen with a muzzle on for an hour. When I took it off and let him loose the first thing he did was grab another one! My parents were about to get rid of him. So I had to take a skinny tree branch and smack him across the rump AS HARD AS I COULD when he grabed another one. I kept hitting he every time he went near one. It was the hardest hour of my life!!! I know it was cruel but I love my dog. But now,1 week later I can take him in the chicken pen while I get the eggs and,he acts like it's natural to lie in the middle of the yard surrounded by chickens!!!!!!! It's like he never even had the impulse to grab one before!


xperincteacher    Posted 05-28-2007 at 18:06:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jessica, You sound like a sensible animal person! I wish I had had the chance to do this! My trained sheep dog worked in the barn all morning. I thought he would appreciate a rest in the afternoon, so I went out for two hours. Instead, he dug under a fence, broke into a secure pen and chased/killed all 12 of my 3 week old guineas. I am heartbroken and can't even LOOK at my dog. When I came home and caught him with one in his mouth he dropped it and ran off(half way to town). He is in a cage now in the barn. I don't know what to do with him. I like the idea of no attention, but also like the idea of desensitization with a switch if you can control the situation. I have no more poultry to desentize to though.


Dave    Posted 12-25-2004 at 20:28:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Speak of retarded.... This sounds like a knee-jerk from an animal lover that has no real world experience. I love chickens and dogs. As much as I did not want to believe the whole tying the chicken around the dog's neck approach, I was close to it, but we have three dogs. Truth be told.... I don't know how to solve it, but I have worked with "professional trainers". Dogs, and animals in general have strange responses and learning characteristics. I would love to give my dogs the benifit of the doubt and let them live through an easy example. I tried that approach with my rottie mix for almost a year. I tried 5 minutes of leash training outside with rapid fire direction (she is very smart and dominant) and I have never seen her respond so well). Truth be told, she needs to be put in her place, and she yearns for it. She does not want to be beat into submission by all acounts, she just needs pack direction. I have never been abusive with my animals, and I have always wanted to have a sweeter relationship with them then I have now, but animals work on a different level. They have different drives and different goals. It may be sad that chickens died, and it sucked when my dog killed the first, and the last of them. Chickens are retarded. I am amazed they are still around. I have raised them my whole life and am now about 30. My family has raised chickens and will say the same thing. You can have compassion for all living things, but if you put it into context, a chicken would kill you and feed off your childs brains if it tasted good to them and they had a way to do it. That is the true nature of the world. It is a matter of opportunity. Wake up and stop crying into your pillow.


rhudson    Posted 09-10-2001 at 22:44:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
have done this with mixed results. wrap dead chicken/duck/whatever with a few turns of poly electric fence wire. hang dead animal just above the ground from a tree by polywire using an insulator. use a electric fence charger to engerize dead animal. helps if wind is blowing to move dead animal. has worked with pups, most adult dogs just learn not to attack dead animals hanging from polywire. its a tough nut to crack, dogs think animals like chickens just beg to be chased, and lets face it, they've been bred for hundreds of years to be interested in birds.


Ron    Posted 10-31-2002 at 07:36:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have fought with my neighbors dog up the road to stop killing my chichens and I told them I would kill the dog and feed it to the ckickens.
The bottom line is they called the law on me and I lost with a vengeance from the neighbors.
I guess the poor chickens never will have a chance to live a free life THANK YOU ALL YOU ANIMAL ACTIVISTS


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 20:47:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is so messed up!!!!!!!! I called animal contol and they said if ANY animal is a threat to yours you have the rightto load them up with as much lead as you want!!!!!!!!!!!!


JLinnz    Posted 11-03-2007 at 17:18:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
we have 6 dogs, one husky that has taken to killing our birds. Now I have spent hundreds on poor Tucker when he cut his head near off doing Lord only knows what, so I hate to shoot him for killing the birds, and the kids love him. The other dogs used to kill our birds as well, my mother told me to tie a dead chicken to thier necks and leave it a week or so. Now moms a bit back woodsy so I thought she was insane of course for telling me to do this, not to mention I found it repulsive. But when all else failed, I tied the dead bird to them. They have never killed another of our birds since. Tucker got out last night and skinned my daughters Rooster, he is alive but looks like he needs roasting, and winter will be chilly for him. My daughter will rig him a coat of sorts Im sure. Tucker was placed in our jail-kennel, its 15x20 and 6' high, so he is not in hell, he just cant run loose like the others. He gets the chicken neckolace when I return home from work, its easier in the winter, less flies. They do learn from this, amazingly, so mom must not be crazy after all. hope it helps. If the dogs arent your's, rule of thumb in the country is NO animal is allowed to kill another persons animal, its harsh, but its sort of an eye for an eye thing, my dogs leave all livestock alone or they leave, one way or another. I know thier instincts, but this is not wild kingdum, and thier well cared for. Good Luck


Jen    Posted 03-31-2005 at 12:42:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have 2 Rotti/Black Lab crosses (males, unneutered) I have had them in my remote location for over a year and a half with no problems. Recently they wandered rather far, over 5 miles, to my closest neighbors house and killed 9 of their free range chickens. I don't know if neutering them would help. any thoughts? I also thought of getting some chickens of my own, and installing one of those underground fencing systems to keep my dogs enclosed. Anyone have experience with those fences? the ones that give them a slight shock if they try and cross the boundary?

I agree that my dogs shouldn't do it, but if my dogs should now be tied up and closed in...shouldn't their chickens be cooped too? *shrug*


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 20:44:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is so messed up!!!!!! I called animal control and asked them if I could kill a dog. They said it didn,t matter if it was someones pet or a stray. If it's a threat to your animals you have the right to shoot them!!!


Sheila    Posted 11-19-2006 at 04:23:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I wouldn't waste money on the "invisible fence" that give the dogs a mild shock if approached. I've talked with people who have had them installed and they tell me that the dogs quickly learn that if they run through it, the pain is mild and brief and then they are free to roam. I've got a dog right now that will even ignore a more prolonged bout with an electrified wire on my fence when she wants to go over it. (However, the wire works for my other dogs, so she's an exception.) Good luck with your dogs.


magpie    Posted 09-10-2001 at 20:10:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Brought home a 2 year old shephard cross last winter. First thing he did after we started letting him out on his own was go after the chickens. I managed to catch him right in the act and immediately grabbed him on both sides of his neck, or ruff as some folks call it, then shook him hard for quite a long time. He has never gone after a chicken since, although I wouldn't leave him alone with them. Dogs can be unpredictable.


Jen    Posted 03-07-2006 at 07:51:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your animals should remain on your property at all times, and the chickens on theirs. I highly doubt that the chickens are wandering onto your property; and even if they did, they are no threat to the life of your dogs.



Bobby    Posted 01-29-2006 at 19:25:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
my dog supposedly killed a chicken on the next block, the owner called the city, the city came out because my dogs are now listed as dangerous animals, they want me to pay $500 each for two collars that list them as dangerous animals. then i have to get an insurance policy for both dogs for $100,000 dollars. they are to come out and take them from me this coming tuesday, i will then have 18 days to get the two dangerous animal tags and the insurance policy.
if i have not done so by the 18 days, my two dogs will be put to sleep. the person from the city came out "Sunday" at 5 p.m. in full uniform, with there city dog pound truck. i am at a loss, is this a scam where the guy with the chicken knows someone with the city, where i go get this done, then he sues. my dogs evidentally made it under his fence, he said he saw my dog kill the chicken and was carrying it away in his mouth. my dogs are brother/sister golden retrievers, the female has a slight sign of german shephard in her. is this the anwser, my male dog kills a chicken, so he is sentenced to death by the city of jacksonville florida, the female dog is i guess considered an accomplice because she was there and gets the same sentence. from what i have read, dogs killing chickens is common, so what did you all do, pay the $1000 for the dangerous animal tags and get the insurance policy, i can't afford that.


Daphne    Posted 11-16-2002 at 17:40:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a dog I got from a rescue society. I've had her 3 years. She's a yellow lab cross, with all lab characteristics. She has been great and has watched over my chickens for a year, chasing away critters. If I leave the chickens out without leaving her at home, they will be attacked by the fox or bobcat without fail. I have learned this. If I leave the dog home, everything is fine....until just recently. Now, she will grab a chicken and hold it down and pull it's feathers out and eat them! At first I couldn't figure out what was happening, though I suspected as the chosen chicken would be sopping wet and minus a lot of feathers. And then I caught her at it today. I took what little feathers I could find and fed them to her and smacked the **** out of her each time, while yelling at her at the same time. I do not usually hit this dog as I don't believe that is the way to train, but I don't know what else to do. I also put cayenne on some of the feathers. I hope it works. I cannot afford to have a dog that messes with chickens. Her job is to protect them! Has anyone else heard of a dog eating chicken feathers?


boo    Posted 03-08-2007 at 03:52:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Then ensure your dogs remain on your property in future, next time it might be a child, can you afford to pay for that instead?


karen bauer    Posted 04-01-2006 at 11:46:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Help
I have tried displining our puppy from killing our chicks but everytime that he is by himself he does it all over again. I tried the strapping a chicken on the collar and he just chewed it. We are now moving to electrical collars. Is there anything else that we can do.
Karen


Amber    Posted 11-03-2006 at 15:47:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am the only one that live on my road and people always dump their dogs there. Last night sombody left me a bordy collie and just today he decided to try to catch my chickens. I have tried breaking him by catching him doing it and beating the crap out of him. But it is not working. What else can I do?


Amy    Posted 09-16-2005 at 06:21:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
What we are talking about here is animal cruelty which is punishable by a fine, jail, and losing your right to own an animal. If you can't treat your animals properly I suggest you find a new home for them. You should NEVER smack the SH** out of an animal. You can't suppress an animals natural instincts by beating them!!! If I knew who you were and where you lived I would turn you into the authorities myself!!!!!


Jason    Posted 08-06-2009 at 06:44:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
WhatEVER Amy...I love it...you probably come from the generation of kids that do not know what discipline is all about. Abuse, whatever, everyone on here is asking for help b/c the BELOVED dog is attacking their or someone's chickens/livestock. My dogs get LOVED like there is no tomorrow HOWEVER keep doing the same asinine thing like killing chickens and not learning after scolding? The intensity of the scolding increases - plain and simple.
Keep hugging your tree's and eating granola in your glass house Amy.


Penny    Posted 05-30-2007 at 13:58:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Get a life and learn to deal...which is what most of these folks are trying to do. A smack isn't abuse...I hope your cat never misbehaves... God forbid...you just may have to make a real life choice! Get real...bleeding hearts....rather than playing the abuse card, if you are truly concerned try to be part of a solution!


boo    Posted 03-08-2007 at 03:55:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh you must feel so very proud beating the crap out of a dog. Wanker! Why not surrender the dog to someone who will care for it, instead of making yourself feel better for bashing an animal, or go buy a punching bag instead, or better still put your address up so people can come beat the crap outta you too


country spice    Posted 03-15-2007 at 21:54:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Why don't you shut the hell up!!! Yeah it's wrong to beat an animal but if it's all that works than you do it! Why don't you post your e-mail and I'll tell you what I really think!


sugar,spice N nothin nice    Posted 03-15-2007 at 21:49:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You don't know what the hell your talking about! I bet you never had our kind of problems with dogs killing!Yeah it's wrong to beat a dog but if thats the only thing that works you do it! Why don't you post your e-mail address so I can tell you what I REALLY think!!!!


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 20:56:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How about you shut the FU** UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must not know what it's like to have a FU***** dog that goes around killing all the DA** chickens around!!! Why don't you email me BIT**!!! I bet we could have a hell of a time!!!!


Wolf, Sorry, but.....    Posted 09-10-2001 at 18:07:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
The only thing I've found to work is a well placed piece of lead. Pups can possibly be broke, depending on the breed, and on how attached they are to the pup. I've had to put two of mine down because of birds, and won't hesitate to put another one down.


boo    Posted 03-08-2007 at 03:58:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why have a dog if you can't control it by means other than beating it. Have you not heard of obedience school, training, you sound like a complete backward country hic


sugar,spice N nothin nice    Posted 03-15-2007 at 22:00:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Gee I don't know ,just maybe we can't afford something like that you a**wipe! I love my dog too much to give him away. You talk like we beat the dog 24/7. I only hit my dog when it's completely nesecary!!! And it's starting to make him listen to the word "NO" when he goes to grab a chicken!!!!


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:04:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
You must really be a Wolf to do something so FU***** stupid!!! You could at least give the dogs away if your to lazy to get off your FU***** A** and try to train them!!! Someone needs to beat the SH** out of you!!!!! Hell, maybe i'll give you a well placed piece of lead you BA*****!!!!!!!


cindy    Posted 07-24-2003 at 22:13:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My puppy is 7 months old and is a Rott/lab X. He does the same thing. He has gotten a hold of three chickens. The first two I caught him in the act and the chickens were ok minus a few feathers. The last one wasn't so lucky. The dog now is chained to our deck with the chicken around his neck. Whacking my dog with the dead chicken was the hardest thing I've ever done. It made me cry. But we live out in the country and nobody has fences. Unfortunately my children left the coop unlatched all three times. They got in trouble too. (I didn't beat them with the chicken though) My dog wasn't eating the chicken, just the feathers. The chicken he killed tonight didn't even look like it had anything wrong with it other than missing half its feathers. Poor thing probably had a heart attack.


Slo    Posted 09-10-2001 at 12:45:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
An old man I know said that the best way to break dogs of chasin or killin deer or other critters you didn't want them to chase or kill was to put a hide in a strong garbage back, then stick the dogs head in. Close the bag around the dogs head until all he can breathe is the hide, and hold him there for a while, until he makes a mess on the ground. He didn't particularly like to do this, but he said it was better than killing a good dog. Same thing might work for chickens.

Don't know, never tried it. But his dogs all behaved a whole lot better than mine too...


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:54:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dude, that is totally sick and twisted!!!!!!!


bb    Posted 09-11-2007 at 17:09:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
My fokes always had chickens and rabbits for food the dogs in the hood when up in the rabbits killing 100 .the same dog killed cats and torn the owers pony up.To me the shock coller sounds like a winner if your own dog .If not and the cat or dog comes in Im for the lead and hang the coller on barn.


wildflower    Posted 09-10-2001 at 12:07:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Shock therapy :o) from an electric fence charger would be effective.However,I always followed my mother's breaking technique and beat the dog with the dead chicken till there were few chicken feathers left, while yelling at the dog as loudly and and as mean as I could.It does not hurt them physically as much as it scares them. We never had a repeat offender. Key is to catch the dog in the act and discipline it soundly. Only a few particularly willful dogs will resist this treatment

I came home to my birddog mix having massacred half my flock,years back.Pure instinct.He played with them to death.When one was dead and no longer any fun,he got another one,til he went thru about 10 birds.They were strewn all over the yard.It looked like a satanic ritual had been going on there,when I got home. He was one of my all time favorite dogs.Nevertheless, he still got the beat & yell treatment, and never did that behavior again.

Have used it sucessfully on a few dogs since,as well.

Livestock killing in a dog is a capital punishment that warrents the extreme measures, in my opinion. But certainly not the bullet until you've tried everything else.

I use other training techniques for most dog behavior difficulties,but I resort to physical punishment for this problem,to clear it up once and for all.However, if you have a particularly aggressive pup(and we had a female coon hound that was) use a shocker collar instead.

As in people & kids, each dog has it's own personality and needs to be handled according to that.What works for one will not necessarily work for another.That's why physical punishment,while not my first choice,is always kept as a last resort reserve,if needed,according to my judgement.

I apply the same principle to kids. Never seen alot of difference between them and dogs. :o)

Side note: I no longer free range chickens to avoid all predator problems.They are in a portable pen which we move occassionally. The chickens help fertilize and prepare the garden. That would be my additional recommendation


Penny    Posted 05-30-2007 at 14:13:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the "move" the pen occasionally advice.We too have started to pen are chickens. Our dogs are pups...a 7 month old Rottie-Lab mix and a Bay Pointer with very sweet dispositions. They were both rescues. We have only had them for about six weeks.But they have killed at least 10 of our chickens. They are fine letting the birds walk all over them when we are there! But when we leave them alone for even a minute they kill the chickens! We could use a little fertilizer for the garden...but the reason we free range is to keep the bugs off the garden!?! But hay...whatever works! Thanks again!!!


brian    Posted 09-10-2001 at 09:26:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
take the/a dead chicken, hook up a wire from a distributor or magneto of a tractor so you'll get the spark to the chicken, call your pup for a little chew and fire up the vehicle. works like a top. we tried the beating with and the shame methods to no avail, after giving the pooch a shot of juice he would walk thirty feet out of the way of the chickens.


LazyHorse    Posted 09-10-2001 at 07:57:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
My neighbor whose dogs got into our chickens a couple of years ago, claims the only way to break em from killing chickens is to beat them with the dead chicken. I can see where your friends method or my neighbors might work with a pup or young dog but in my honest opinion in an adult dog is once they get a taste of whatever it is they kill the only real training aid is a lethal dose of buckshot.


F14    Posted 09-10-2001 at 06:18:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dunno. If you find one, I'd like to hear it. My current dog was raised from a pup around chickens, and while she will scatter them once in awhile just for the pure joy of it, she won't harm them.

My previous dog, an otherwise gentle, loving Rottweiler (loved kids and cats, grew up with cockatiels perching on his back) HATED chickens, and nothing I could do would stop him from killing every one he could catch.


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Paula Heckathorn    Posted 12-15-2003 at 09:47:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I just had to find a new home for my eight month Rottie - it tore me up to get rid of her. She was so gentle and timid until she got around chickens/hens/roosters. She literally killed and ate all but two of my neighbors chicken/hens/roosters. It was devastating. It was really a massacre. She got in the chicken coop and couldn't get back out - the rooster was attacking her trying to protect the others - she eventually killed him too. It was very sad because my neighbors were trying to get her out and she growled at them (totally not like her), but when she is in that mode she doesn't answer to her name or any commands. She is totally focused on killing them. So, I decided for liability reasons to find a new home for her. I was just afraid - today chickens - tomorrow someone else's cat, dog, etc. Not sure if she would do that, but I just couldn't take that chance.


Michele    Posted 11-24-2003 at 23:20:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Has anyone ever tried the ole tie the dead chicken around the dog's neck that killed the chicken? Well i did. Left it there for 4 days, don't know if it will help in the long run, all I know is now I have a dog with a bad rash around it's neck.


Aaliyah    Posted 12-23-2004 at 20:38:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oooohh that can't be good. I only just found out today that my dog's been killing my chickens, of course I had had my suspicions up. I would try that trick but she lives in the house and that just wouldn't be pretty. Poeple say I should muzzle her but she also tends to scar off preditors and I dont want to restrict her. Any sugestions?


hm    Posted 03-08-2004 at 12:45:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
You should NEVER EVER EVER physically harm a dog to punish it. Not only is this cruel and inhumane-and often ineffective, but it can cause severe mental problems in the dog (human aggression, fear, fear biting, unpredictability).
Dogs are natural predators - they can and often do catch/attack small animals. If this is a problem you must simply make sure the chickens or other animals are safely contained, and the dog is not allowed to roam in their area (this is what I do, I have a six foot fence around the chickens to deter predators and loose dogs, including my own!). There are also dozens of effective ways of training a dog using positive motivation/reward or clicker techniques.
Again I stress that physically hurting a dog will do more harm than good, and it is certainly illegal to harm an animal in this way. Dogs are animals after all, and they will not be able to rationalize your abuse. If you feel you must "smack the dog around to teach him a lesson", I hope you will have no contact with dogs in your life, ever. If most people saw you punish the dog in the ways you have described, rest assured that you would soon be reported to the police and your dog would quickly be placed in a proper home, where its new owners will have to deal with the problems caused by your abuse.


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fed up    Posted 03-14-2006 at 06:16:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
IF aall the busy bodies would mind their own business, you should be able tohandle you dog as you wish.... they are leaglly murdered daily at the pound... and that makeup on your face... WOW all the cruelty that went into that, should we call the police on you too? How about The menopause med that horses are tortured for, but I bet you do not let your hot flashes get to you do you?


Sunnie    Posted 07-10-2007 at 23:10:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree beating the dog gets u no where. The chickens should be either penned up or keep an eye on them whike they r out. This same thing happened to me today and my mom went psycho on our 12 year old dog who we have had since he was a month old. She even threathened putting him 2 sleep. I think she needs to be more watchful of her pet afterall hes only an animal who doesnt understand his mistake.


dale    Posted 04-19-2006 at 15:20:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Please refrain from this discussion if all you have to say is "don't hit the poor dog". I am sure that these people did not get any pleasure from punishing their dogs. I sure didn't. They just didn't know what else to do, that is why we are here, to find a better way. I have 2 pups. They are both 5 mo. old and are very loving and friendly. I also have chickens. About a month ago my pups started going after the birds. First one they caught they just chewed feathers off. After they did this I placed them inside the coop with all the chickens and every time they started towards one I would reprimand them with a loud "no!" and a gentle tap. After a few sessions they seemed better. It was after this that i noticed they went after the birds only when I wasn't with them. I tried monitering them and yelling at them every time they did it but to no avail. If i was watching, they behaved. When I was not, they chased. Then a week later I found half a chicken on the back doorstep and another chick still alive but ripped up so bad I had to kill it myself. After that I spanked them like a child on the but and showed them the dead birds. This morning they ran outside and had killed a rooster before I could even get dressed. I beat them with the birds and my hands. I didn't injure them, i was hitting them open handed, but it was still enough that I felt physically ill afterwards. I hated doing it but the chickens are our pets too (we don't raise for meat)and it kills me to see them die. I love my dogs but I will have to get rid of them if I can not fix this problem. If I come up with an answer that works for me I will post it but so far nothing is working. If anyone has a relevent response please let me know, but if you are just posting because you are an animal lover and you want to tell me I am a monster for hitting my dogs please understand that I am an animal lover too. If I did not love my dogs I would not be here trying to find a better way.


Penny    Posted 05-30-2007 at 14:26:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks Dale! My point exactly. While I don't believe in hitting anything or anybody. If you try it and it works...your dog never eats another chicken...you solved your problem! But generally it doesn't sound like it works...so we just keep trying...I haven't tried the chicken around the neck method because it just sounds like room service if you crate them!


rdg_runner    Posted 05-10-2006 at 02:40:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have worked with dogs all my life. While in rescue work I have over 75 dogs through in 1 yr. I have found several methods that work but none are 100% as each dog has a different personality. One of my dogs shaming him and tying a dead chicken around his neck for 1/2 a day and he never touched another. A shock collar works good for dog who have a bit more zeal for chicken chasing. Go to where the dog can't see you (if he's smart enough to know not to do it when your looking) right before he catches a chicken shock him. Use the lightest shock that is effective. Only allow your dog availibility to the chickens when you can use this procedure until the dog associates chasing chickens with a shock. Another good method but is time consuming is as someone else mentions desesitsing keeping the dog house with the dog on a chain next to the chicken pen. What I found works for neighbor dogs is bottle rockets that scream and bang, a small bud vase works good for aiming. Of course you have to see the dog coming.
A chicken killing dog must be dealt with. For those who think some of procedures are cruel the options if the killing continues can be much worse, life on a chain or in a pen, euthanasia, or worse a bullet. Bottom line is several dogs I have owned could not be stopped including a 9lb min pin who killed seven chickens in one round. We came home to find a dead chicken every few feet from the doggie door, up the stairs to the bedroom. Those beloved dogs had to be adopted out to new homes in the city. I have never cured any type of husky or husky mix from killing chickens. A true chicken killer cannot be cured but most dogs its the thrill of the chase and more of a sport and usually can be stopped. I have never found hitting to be effective as by the time you get hold of the dog they've forgotten what they were in trouble for. It will also make the dog hard to catch next time.


MLS    Posted 04-20-2006 at 19:08:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a heeler mix (looks like a fox and acts like one too). She is 1 year old. She breaks thier necks and buries them. Only once have we caught her eating on one. I have tried all of the tactics discribed, nothing works. The rules only apply if I am around to notice, other wise it is open game for her. I am not willing to give up my dog, I have done it too many times before. This time I am going to work harder at keeping the chickens in and the dog out. I just don't know of any other way. I hope she will find a new toy really soon.


Caleb    Posted 12-02-2005 at 20:11:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am only 11 but I have enough sensa to know that if a chicken has to be put up then a dog needs to be put up also.{a chicken has the same rights to live as a dog does to live!}


bj    Posted 06-07-2004 at 05:11:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
if and when your dog whom you love kills a chicken etc,and you love this animal and want to keep him and would rather not chain him to a stake or put a muzzle on him or have ya neighboor or the police shoot him tie that chicken around his neck in such a way as he cannot get at it or tear it off and of course in a manner that does not physically hurt ya pooch,after a fixed time depending on your dogs learning capacity you take it off and reassure your treasured animal that you love him but that he must not kill the chooks and since he is a dog and we human,that if it were at all possible you wish he could crasp this fact without having to resort to such techniques that are emotionally stressing to us! as we are weak and politically correct to the point of ignorance to the fact that a dog is only as well trained and obediant as is its master is disciplend in his love for his animal.and yes for all the animal rights bannaners who were raised the same way by the same techniques interestingly enough this technique is no crueler than the way you teach your children how to cross the road "as it is for their on good"
other wise who is to blame if your child gets hit by a car because you were to weak to lovingly use a miner punishment that doesnt scar but will heal in order to prevent the worst possible outcome that is as natural as breathing its called "LEARNING" and if anybody can show me a way of learning without experiencing some discomfort well you can keep it with ya junk food ads and 3 week diets and rock hard abs with out any sweat.


Sammy    Posted 06-04-2004 at 19:44:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
My 2 year old dachshund has found a taste for fowl food. He has managed to kill about 13 young chickens in the last 3 weeks. We didn't think it was him at first as the dog is legally blind. But the kids caught him in the act. So... we tried the tying the chicken around the neck and he chewed off the body and left the neck hanging. Then I tied it back on by the feet. Within hours the chicken was chewed off again and only little feet hung on. We don't want to shoot the dog, and hate him being tied up all the time (he escapes his kennel by climbing) So we are trying a new idea. When we let him outside to run (he does stay on our 4 acres) we are muzzling him. He hates it but he'd hate a bullet more. It comes off when he is inside or tied up. This is just being tried today so wish me luck! If he can't bite them, then maybe he can't kill them.


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samantha anderson    Posted 05-27-2004 at 15:53:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
people should never beat ANYTHING!!!
I am 13 yrs. old I am am smarter than I look!!!
I am also a animal lover!


tracy    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:02:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
hm, all is well and good with your theory, but farm/ranch/country life is not quite a perfect. If I went about killing my neighbors chickens you can bet they'd punish me. Whatever it takes to STOP the dog from eating chickens, because the other alternative is shooting them.

I just came in from finding 3 MORE of my chickens dead in the yard. The dog apparently learned to jump up and open the door of the coop and then to dive in for some good old fashioned carnage. This makes 8 now, in the last week. Each time he figures out a new, different way to get at my chickens.

I don't need to beat my dog, I can see he KNOWS he's been bad. But he's tied now, and I'm not letting that little ^%$^%$ off his leash. I guess you could call tying a dog physical punishment, in some ways. But do I care? I bet my poor little dead chickens don't care much. He's a lot more free than those chickens are.

Put yourself in the place of the victim. If a cougar pounced down and ate you, you can bet the wildlife authorities would go kill that cougar. They figure it out... mmm easy meal, good fun. One kill is all it takes.

So did anyone ever figure out how to stop them? I've zapped my dog with the shock collar pretty good... caught him right in the act last time. Still he managed to figure out how to break into the coop today. I hate to get rid of him. But he doesn't look so great tied up and whining.


Gmm    Posted 12-23-2004 at 21:28:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes I must agree with that and I geuss i should say im only 12 but im not STUPID! My 2 yr dog has been killing MY chickens. She very good I must say, only does it at night and leaves the chickens their, cleans up and heads back inside all inocent, leaving the body so it looks like some fishercat or something. Yes well today she killed two teen chicks right infront of me. A minute after I let her out I went out to put them away and shes just about to sit down and have a meal. And I know its not right to be beating the dog but that is stopping! Wether it means getting rid of her(which I prefer not to) or shocking the hell out of her.

Since I first got my first four chickens in July-ish they were picked off by hawks. Then I got 26 or so and only 5 of them survived a masacure by something that we still dont know what the heck it is! But we only have 3 now......and guess whos responsible for that....my dog maggie. Anyways those three have started laying and by god THEY ARE NOT GONNA BE PICKED OFF BY SOME STUPID DOG!!!!! About a month before these 3 started laying I got 31 new babys, 3 were picked off by hawks. Two were killed today, and the worst part was as much as I yelled and called and ordered maggie did not listen. Maggie has always chased these chickens, dad thought it was just play and she'd get over it! I rescued this dog and shes only been with us for alittle less than a year and as much as she has grown on me I WILL NOT tolerate this crap. So right now she is laying at my feet cuddled up, all day long she been crying and whining because I wont pay attention to her until I have this figured out.

When my 2 of the 5 chickens I were explaining about died I had MAJOR suspicion especialy since they were ripped apart and when my dad and I came out she was chewing away. My dad said she had probably just found it and something else caught it but I said it was her and if it was then she would be gone. So far i've given up on that and shes still here, my mom sugested muzzling her everytime she went outside but the only problem is that she tends to keep away other preditors. I would tie the next chicken to her but she tends to jummp up and sleep on my bed and I really am not willing to have a dead chicken on my bed, and that whole put the chicken in a plastic bag and put it on the dogs head thing THATS JUST GONNA SUFOCATE THE DOG!!!!! Oh and I know verbal and physical abuse seems mean to your poor lil puppy but alot of poeple rely on their farm and livestock for money and food! So look at it this way sweetie, your a farmer you have 34 chickens that are almost all ready to start laying eggs. Now each chickens will lay about 4-5 eggs a day to a week, thats alot of eggs, which means good food and good money. BUT if your fav dog comes along (who is suposed to be protecting) and kills 30 of 'em thats not good is it? So basically that one little problem has just destroyed your entire laying plans. Meaning not as much food and not as much money. So think for a second.

Anyways I THINK thats all I got to say. If ANYONE has any suggestions please tell but for now either i'll muzzle her when she goes out OR (this I just thought up now) take a peice of her electric fencing (she uses electric fences) and make a circle around the dead chickens and bury it, maybe that might get her to back off the chickens(or maybe i'll just put electric fencing around the already enclosed pen area).


HL    Posted 03-26-2005 at 13:04:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
About the shock collar on a dog... it is one of the best inventions ever! It has prevented my dog from running out of the gate and getting hit by a car, and yes, I HAVE tried it on myself. I was curious as to how much juice they have, and it is enough to get thier attention when they won't listen to anything else. I love the things.


Hyrax    Posted 06-21-2004 at 21:07:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I don't care what you say, you don't shoot a dog--especially your or someone elses pet-- because it's killing chickens. It doesn't know any better. You shouldn't hit it and you deffinatley shouldn't use a shock collar(try it on yourself if you don't think it's cruel). "The place of the victim?!" This isn't a human-being carrying out a homicide, it's a wild animal acting on instinct. I'm sick of authorities hunting down and trying to kill animals because they attacked and/or killed a human. What's next, charging them with murder and taking them to court. If they're found guilty--the evidence would be obvious because they wouldn't be doing this if they didn't see the person attacked or find the body--do we put them on death row and take them to the gas chamber when it's "time." (I know, there are a lot of good authorities, but some of them are just...stupid.) Really this is a serious problem, and you need to be careful. It seems that we need to read manuals on how to protect ourselves from wild animals. (Not attacking, because that wouldn't be a good idea. Tranquilizers are good.)


About the dog:

I don't know how to stop the dog in a humane way, but maybe you can keep the dog out of the yard and reinforce the cage to protect the chickens....what else is there to do?


Frustrated.    Posted 03-16-2007 at 14:56:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Comparing the chicken killing to human to human homicide is ignorant. Just as we don't punish animals in the same way as humans, we also do not train them the same way! Shock collers are by no means inhumane! You clearly have never owned a hardheaded animal that you love! If you did you would want to fix it's behavioral problems. Some dogs only need positive reinforcment whereas others need a firm pack leader and negative reinforcement. A shock collar works wonders because they don't associate it with human beating, which does lead to fear biting and peeing on your feet when petting.

For three months the neighbors chicken and my dog have lived in harmony but my 7 month old German Shepherd now has a taste for chicken and will not under any cercumstances listen to me. He used to stay in the yard. Now he jumps a 5 foot fence to get to these chickens if I turn my back for 5 minutes. He came home today with blood on his face. The neighbors saw him do it. They were nice enough to come discuss this with us and not physically harm my dog. I am not sure my husband would be as nice if the tables were turned! We have decided that if he is not in his 8 foot tall 10 by 10 kennel he will have to be chained up or in the house! This pains me to do but it is just not fair for my neighbors to have to deal with him going on to there pproperty and killing there pets! I would be violently angry if they had a vicious big dog that come on my property and killed mine.

It seems to me that people like Hyrex and all the other irrational people posting to this thread they are naive. I can guarantee it would only take one time for something to physically harm one of their animals to realize that sometimes you have to control your animal and the animals of others by whatever means necesary! We live in a wonderful country that allows me to have any animal I want on my 60 acre lot. This country also allows me to protect my property, pets and family! Stop condescending those who are only looking for solutions to a clear problem!


Fred Dickey    Posted 12-27-2006 at 15:53:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We've had a dog for about 6 months now. It was an abandoned stray that we decided to keep. It's killed 4 of our neighbors chickens recently. The only thing we know to do is take it to the humane society and hope that they find it a new home before having to put it to sleep. Our neighbor told us about the hanging the dead chicken from its neck which I'm not so willing to try because this is an indoor dog that we have been trying to housebreak without success as well. I've tried training pads (which he just chews up), shoving his nose in the stuff and yelling at him and then taking him outside where he's supposed to go, crating him, etc. I wish I could get a shock collar as I'd imagine that would be the most effective method for training a dog with such stubborness to him.

For all those "animal lovers" who say that a dog shouldn't be punished in anyway because it doesn't "know any better"....Charles Manson didn't "know any better" when he killed all those people but since when did ignorance of the law serve as a means to escape the law????!?!?!?

You know that picture of the shephard boy in the nativity scene at Christmas with the lamb around his neck that looks all cute and all? You know why that lamb is around his neck? Because when a lamb keeps wandering off, the shephard will take his staff and break one of the lamb's legs. Then he will reset that leg and carry the lamb around his neck for the 2 or 3 weeks it takes to heal. When he no longer has to carry that lamb, it will remain near the shephard at all times because it has been so accustomed to being close to the shepherd's heart and dependent upon the shepherd! It's called TOUGH LOVE...it's either that or let the lamb wander off and get killed.

People need to step out of their cozy little sheltered lifestyles for a moment and get some toughness about them. It's the train of thought that we shouldn't punish and discipline that cripples our nation. Grow up people.

You may not like what I have to say, but I say it because I love ya.


SE    Posted 03-13-2005 at 15:28:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I live on over 20 hectares across the road from my Brothers 100 or so hectares he has 2 8mth old Smithfield Cattle dogs an old red cattle dog, they have electric collars and they still kill my chooks, I have a dog also a staffy and he doesn't kill my chooks. Before these 2 came along my dog and the old one were friends and still are, they both used to visit each other. My dog has been convicted of luring these 2 other dogs over to my place to kill the chooks so they get in trouble. Today is my breaking point. Over the past 3 months I did have 8 chooks and 3 roosters. Now I have no chooks and 2 roosters. The chooks free range during the day, well they used to. These dogs would do circle work around the chook coop even when they were locked up, I caught them once. Even an electric collar will not stop them. They had no collars this morning and finished off 5 chooks and one rooster. I didn't hear them. Feathers every where and dead chooks, these rotten b****y dogs don't even eat them. They leave dead chickens everywhere for me to clean up. This is the most upsetting part.
This is fine for those out there who are dog lovers. I will have to give my dog away now as I have threatened that if the 2 dogs are over here I will kill them on site and now the same goes for my dog going to see his old mate. This is all because of 2 expensive pedigree smithfield's and I am not impressed. They wear electric collars but the collars weren't on this morning another property owner was having problems with his dog chasing cars and they are out on loan to him. These dogs haven't killed for 1 month, they are very smart and the smartness will make them have a very short life span. I am not going to get any more chooks, what for so these poor innocent chooks can get killed. Now I won't eat eggs because the eggs you buy in the supermarkets are full of hormones, antibiotics etc... whatever they feed the chooks. This is just great so to all those out there who say oh poor doggy mmmm well and those who have no respect for chickens mmmm maybe you don't deserve animals. I don't have the money to fence my place just because of 2 dogs and now my life is ruled by them. Dogs are worth more than chooks so I am told. I hand raised these chickens from day old chicks and I am pissed and upset.


mad mom    Posted 08-31-2004 at 06:07:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
wild animals are (animals that were not born and bred in captivity,if the were born in captivity they are domesticated animals and any treatment that you can do to stop them from the urge to kill than it should be done or your domesticated animal will revert to be wild again and who knows if you dont nip it in the bud now than maybe one day you have a couple of infants in your yard running around and they attack and kill them too did anyone ever think about that? if we want to keep our animals to protect us and other animals that have no way of protecting themselves than we have to train them by any means possible and if they are to stubborn than they are useless, so yes shoot them at least it will keep the population down and no it wont cause them to become extinct that will come because everyone wants you to have them fixed so in years to come the only one to have dogs will be the zoos and maybe for the better.


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Kate    Posted 12-29-2004 at 16:37:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
What is this that you and several others think that shooting an animal because it doesnt behave the way we as humans want it to, if you raise your dogs with kids with love and kindness, its unlikely that the dog will go for them, since they are family members. Chickens are one thing kids are quite another. It never ceases to amaze me how parents allow their monster children to hurt animals, so that when the dog has too much it growls or snaps, shoot it? What about the brat that was maybe biting or kicking, poking, setting fire to it or whatever cruelty the rotten brat has done to the poor animal, should we put in extreme measures for them too?
If that is the attitude you have toward animals that they need to be made to be completely submissive in case they turn, they wouldnt if they felt loved and were treated kindly. How do you know they wont become extinct, reckon someone said the same about the DoDo Bird, and every other species on this earth except for us, who keep breeding and raping the earth so we wonder why nature is taking over for us, perhaps if you took a good look around you, have a sqiz how many species Have become extinct, then you may not be so free to comit harikari on another dumb animal.There is no need to kill the dog, the hanging the chook around the neck, hitting the dog with the poor dead chook and yelling at it,works, horrible but it does work.
I feel sad for you mad mum because you should know better.Have you ever heard of the seven levels of the soul?


hm    Posted 03-08-2004 at 12:40:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
You should NEVER EVER EVER physically harm a dog to punish it. Not only is this cruel and inhumane-and often ineffective, but it can cause severe mental problems in the dog (human aggression, fear, fear biting, unpredictability).
Dogs are natural predators - they can and often do catch/attack small animals. If this is a problem you must simply make sure the chickens or other animals are safely contained, and the dog is not allowed to roam in their area (this is what I do, I have a six foot fence around the chickens to deter predators and loose dogs, including my own!). There are also dozens of effective ways of training a dog using positive motivation/reward or clicker techniques.
Again I stress that physically hurting a dog will do more harm than good, and it is certainly illegal to harm an animal in this way. Dogs are animals after all, and they will not be able to rationalize your abuse. If you feel you must "smack the dog around to teach him a lesson", I hope you will have no contact with dogs in your life, ever. If most people saw you punish the dog in the ways you have described, rest assured that you would soon be reported to the police and your dog would quickly be placed in a proper home, where its new owners will have to deal with the problems caused by your abuse.


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Kevin Lacy    Posted 02-07-2005 at 05:27:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
First train your dog! Dogs are pack animals and will respect other pack members. First convince your dog that you are the pack leader (alpha dog) then make sure each other family member is higher up the echilon than the dog. This can be done by pretending to eat the dog's food before you give it to the dog, ignoring the dog completely when returning from a journey etc. There are many other strategies for putting a dog in it's place. NONE REQUIRING VIOLENCE.(Ref: "The Dog Listener" by Jan Fennell {Harper Collins).
Once the dog knows it's place then introduce it to the hens. Use rewards - not punishment - and treat the hens the same way as you treat the dog. Amazingly quickly the dog regards the hens as pack members and will take good care of them.
This works (or am I just lucky?) the only draw back is that the dog tries to eat the hen's food!
By the way, at the moment my hen guard is an Airedale Terrier called Parsley.
Otherwise get a Border Collie whose herding instincts over ride it's need to kill.


bb    Posted 12-16-2006 at 19:19:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i have a border collie and i cant even count the number
of chickens she has killed. its terrible. i thought that
since she was a herding dog she would help us on the
farm but so far she's not. i know its wrong but i have hit
and yelled at her when i caught her. i tried the idea
where you tie the chicken to the dog but i guess it didn't
work because she has killed another one tonight. i don't
really like the idea of stuffing her head into a bag but
maybe the electric shock would work. if you have any
other ideas i would like to hear them.


J sand    Posted 06-18-2007 at 19:54:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My black lab has just killed another chicken tonight. Doesn't eat them just plays with them till they don't move anymore. I have had him for a month, got him from the pound and he is perfect in every other way. I called the pound where we got him from about the chicken killing problem. Asked them for advice and told them about tying the dead chicken around the dogs neck. i was told that is cruelty to animals and could go to jail for that! so I am going to buy a shock collar and zap him. If that doesn't work I will take him back and tell them to find him a home with no chickens. Oh, he barked and barked and barked at the horses too......until i let him in with them. He was kicked and had the wind knocked out of him but he doesn't bother the horses anymore!


Rod    Posted 04-07-2006 at 22:12:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You have obviously not observed or studied the natural communication methods of dogs/wolves. The young are taught through very aggressive assaults, the subordinate adult animals are taught their appropriate place and behavior in the same manner. Sometimes harsh discipline is not only normal and natural, but may save a dog from a much worse fate later on.


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:21:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree! the only way i stopped my dog was by beating the SH** out of him with a stick as he tried to grab another one!!! To all you "ANIMAL LOVERS" it was either that or my dad was going to give him a lethal dose of buckshot! And i certainly didn't want that!!!


rsl    Posted 03-20-2005 at 16:10:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not expert but from what I've read, beating a dog is usually counterproductive (it just learns to fear you and will probably end up biting you out of fear).

I've heard of the "beating the dog" with the dead chicken trick but it seems to be an "old wive's tale".

I've only heard of three methods which seem to work:

1) The old electro-shock treatment - connect the dead chicken to some wires and let the dog "play" with it...after some shocks, it's not very enthusiastic any more about playing with chickens.

2) Tying the dead chicken around its neck until the chicken falls off...after dragging this smelly thing around, most dogs seem to be totally "off" chickens.

3) When they're really small pups, release the dog in the yard with the chickens...close supervision is required because the puppy could get hurt. Usually, the puppy will approach the chickens out of curiosity...and the chickens will ATTACK, resulting in the puppy running back to you in total fear. This seems to stick in the puppy's mind.

BTW - to those people who think shooting a dog that's attacking chickens is "cruel", you should realize that for many people, those chickens are a source of their livelihood. Also, a dog that is no longer controllable, is not a pet anymore, it is a THREAT. Yes, chasing chickens is natural for dogs. However, a decent degree of training (requiring a bit of time and or monetary expense) should suppress this behavior in most dogs. But if it's a neighbor's dog and he refuses to take steps to correct his dog's behavior, the only recourse you have is to shoot it. Animal lovers should realize that animals are animals are not furry human beings or walking stuffed animals.


Eggdog    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:27:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
LMFAO! Whacking a dog with a dead chicken! What kind of retards are on the net! THis is my fav:

The last one wasn't so lucky. The dog now is chained to our deck with the chicken around his neck. Whacking my dog with the dead chicken was the hardest thing I've ever done. It made me cry.

I was crying as well...of laughter! OMG how funny, i am adding that to my sig! LMAO!HOW FYCKING FUNNY! I can picture it in my mind, LMAO!


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:28:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'll give you something to "LMFAO" about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While i agree that hitting a dog is wrong it has to be done. But you are just a FU***** AS*****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All you came on here to do is make fun of people! You don't need help or want to give it. But i'll give you some help anyway, go FU** yourself A** wipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sid Vicious    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:34:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
HAHAHAHAHA KILLING A DOG WITH A DEAD CHICKEN ? THATS CLASSIC ! MAKES ME WONDER WHAT "PEOPLE" ARE OUT THERE . BUT EGGDOG YOU ARE A FOOL


Eggdog    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:36:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am a fool! Well you stupid man! I hate your perspective on life and stuff! You are a classic...dumb man! Why dont i hit you with a dead chicken!!


Sid Vicious    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:39:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
go on then ! i aint afraid of you you redneck peice of chicken s**t u sad pathetic little leprechaun


Eggdog    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:41:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like omg... No you didnt just call me a leprechaun... I hate you! I am calling the wedding off...even if you are my cousin!!


Sid Vicious    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:42:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
no im sorry babe, come back to bed Cletus


Eggdog    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:44:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
No way jimbo. I had enough of your antics. I dont want your small genitals in me anymore! I am gonna tell daddy! He has a shot gun!


Jimbo    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:45:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
you 2 are sad, even if i am your mom


Cletus    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:47:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
No way! Thats it! The wedding is off! I hate you! Like,omg, hvhjjkck

Daddy hit my head against the wooden keyboard


Officer Sid    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:53:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
you do realize you could get him arrested for assault ? but i dont know if i can be bothered to get up from my fat rear end to help you cletus ...... ah yes marrying in the family is also illegal so ....but since i am married to my sister ill let it slide


Cletus    Posted 04-20-2005 at 12:55:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Damn you officer! I hate you..even though you are my uncle! Ill shoot you! You whore! Oh yeah, i am bisexual!


Farmer    Posted 09-28-2005 at 17:17:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Y'all are idiots, you last responders (EggHead and Sid Idiot). My
guess is this -- you live in a city and have no clue where your
food comes from, other than the wrapper. And that's great.
That's your option. So STAY OFF THIS FORUM. The truth is that
when you care for your food, for your animal companions, for
your home, you care dearly when things go wrong. How would
you feel if you caught your best friend destroying your seats in
your car? That doesn't even begin to cover the rotten feeling
when you visit your quail pen or chicken coop and find all your
animals dead.

Idiots.


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:38:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are so FU***** stupid!!!!!!! I can't believe they posted that on this forum! You think that just because we live in the country we're just stupid rednecks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you don't remember that a couple of farmers beat away the british with nothing but a couple of pitchforks!!!!!!!! If anything you should be thanking us you city piece of SH**!!!!!!!!!


country spice    Posted 02-10-2007 at 21:37:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are so FU***** stupid!!!!!!! I can't believe they posted that on this forum! You yhink that just because we live in the country we're just stupid rednecks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you don't remember that a couple of farmers beat away the british with nothing but a couple of pitchforks!!!!!!!! If anything you should be thenking us you city piece of SH**!!!!!!!!!


Brad    Posted 10-11-2005 at 16:37:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well, my name is Brad, and I have a chicken killing dog as well. She took 2 of a flock of 23 the other day when my wife wasn't looking. Wife beat a chicken in half across the dog and when I come home from work I beat the other chickens guts out on her.

Will it work ? I dunno. Cruel ? No worse than a dog killing a bunch of defensless chickens for pure joy ! I cannot believe some of the responses here !

Animals respond to pain - because they don't have a brain like ours to contemplate things and THINK. Dogs react, have great instincts ...... but they don't reason ! If they did they'd damn know better than to kill chickens, wouldn't they ?

I want to get a shock collar, set to HIGH, and then have the wife flush a chicken out of the coup and let her have a go. Then I'll zap her down again and again ....... maybe that way the pain will teach her to leave the chickens alone and she won't associate it negatively to her masters ?


Vickie    Posted 08-31-2007 at 18:15:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This sounds like a great idea! Thanks, I have lost more chickens then I can count! I am getting one tomorrow!


niki    Posted 01-17-2006 at 12:01:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know, I read through all of these comments because I have a "chicken killer" who unfortunately I am very fond of otherwise and am disturbed at the level of ignorance of life in general I found here. God created animals to be a companion, source of food and source of warmth for man and any animal domestic or wild that does not provide any of the above is of no use. This includes a dog which will not obey his masters commands, such as not killing his valuable chickens(a source of food for most). You tree huggers out there should really use your compassionate natures to serve others instead of beasts with no souls, no compassion, no empathy.
Thank you for the advise those of you who live on farms or at least have some common sense regarding how the world was meant to work. God bless!


Penny    Posted 05-30-2007 at 14:44:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tree Huggers...thats funny! But I agree that we need to forget about "city slicker" morality! On farms "bossy" goes down to keep the food on the table! Dogs are here to work...protect, herd whatever. But they need to be trained so there is a balance...wear is the "dog whisperer" when we need him!


Greg    Posted 04-27-2006 at 12:16:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
With interest I came on this web site and am somewhat amused at the range of content. I have a chicken dog problem too.
I thought it might be a notion to get a bunch of us to brainstorm new and possibly wacky ideas for resolution to this problem.

The thought came to me of covering all of the chickens with that liquid you use to prevent nail biting......or perhaps capsapsium (sp?) cream. Thought the chickens might not like the later.

Perhaps putting a saddle for chickens on the dog and strapping one in and let it ride until the dog becomes disinterested.

For more ideas ask yourself....What do dogs hate?
Or....????what do chickens hate? Perhaps not the later.

How about the carrot on a stick idea....chicken on a stick - at a safe distance for the chicken???

How about the question: What do dogs like???? Rewards???? Hummm....Hold the chicken and call the dog towards you. When it approaches to sniff the chicken and the moment it backs away from the chicken, give the dog a treat???? (not meat flavored treats please)

Come on out there. Someone must have some more ideas.


farmgirl    Posted 06-18-2006 at 08:59:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a German Shepherd that I adopted and is a big chicken/goose/duck killer. All my animals are free range. The thing that I do, he does chores with me is right by the animals and does not want anything to do with them. He has a leash on him at all times when he is running around and knows if the leash is there he is to be good. It all takes time. You need to interact with the dogs and the fowl. It took me almost 6 months. I keep a very close eye on him when he is running around, but I am not going to tie my dog either. We also have 3 other dogs and they dont bother the fowl at all and they were all adults when we got our fowl, Rottie, Lab and a weiner dog


Mary    Posted 10-28-2006 at 21:23:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I say to everyone. If you have a dog that kills chickens, and they are worth so much, the only thing a smart person would do is build a Dog Pen, one that the dog cannot escape and save both the dogs and the chickens. This way no one gets hurt and everyone is safe. The definition of an "IDIOT" is doing the same thing over and over again to achieve a different result. Are you one of these?


Motkin    Posted 11-20-2006 at 17:51:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
hello. I have a problem, as most of the people on here do. I have two dogs, one a medium-sized terrier/poodle mix and one small poodle. Despite size, they enjoy chasing and killing our chickens very much. A few weeks ago my favorite chicken was killed and I am rather ornery about the whole thing. One thing that we do is put the dogs away in the afternoon, let the chickens out, and then when the chickens go to bed in their pen for the night we close them up and let the dogs out. It works alright, but I don't think it's enough for the chickens. I would prefer it if both chickens AND dogs could be let out all day. Then the dogs could protect the chickens. Also, I have another problem: most of my chickens are bantams (very small chickens and a very bad move on our part). So I can see how they are so tempting to chew on for the dogs. One thing I want to try is to put the dogs one at a time on leashes and bring them into the coop with the chickens. When they go for one I will swat them, hard enough that they remember it but not at all abuse (like SOME people we know of might think of it as- no offense). It's just an idea from a nearly-thirteen-year-old.... anyone else want to argue a little less and brainstorm here?? We're all here to help each other, right? Then by all means LET'S USE OUR BRAINS AND THINK! As that one guy said a little while ago, let's try to help each other with new ideas! Anyone else have one to add? (the beating the dogs with the chicken or tying it around the dog's neck is great and all... but I don't exactly want to wait until my dogs kill another chicken or have to kill one myself to train them... we've got only 18 left and several are just roosters and we need the eggs...)


Motkin    Posted 11-22-2006 at 13:21:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I tried my plan, and I think it worked for one dog, but I could see the other dog (poodle) wanted those birds BAD! I'm actually kind of afriad that even the other dog (terrier/poodle mix) might attack behind my back.... but I guess I'll keep trying to train them not to and pray for the best. These chickens are my pets. I really don't want anything happening to them, but life takes chances. I can't shelter them forever.


shannon    Posted 08-27-2008 at 20:34:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
this is the "rule" in the country...if a dog kills anyone's livestock, it needs to be shot. For the most part once a dog starts to kill livestock it continues. With some breeds, the taste of blood could be dangerous and make them dangerous to small children for example. No one wants to kill a dog but the problem needs to be solved..sooner rather than later.


GSP    Posted 12-19-2006 at 10:56:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey all I have a German Shorthaired Pointer (2nd I have had of this breed) They are a bird dog and yes I do know all about them we research breeds intensely before purchasing....though this one is much much more insistant on killing our chickens the running total is around 40!! Poor old birds

I really love my boy and I really want to beable to keep this guy he is such a suck :oD. I don't want to harm our relationship...GSP's are more sensitive and I don't want him to become afraid of me.....just the chickens and killing them...

Our last GSP learned quite quickly and after only 5 chickens! He just got the verbal disaproval and clued in very fast that chickens weren't on the kill menu, but later found out that killing nasty rodents and racoons made us happy....the chickens could roam as they pleased around the farm and he didn't care!

One other thing is that I think Cats are going to be a problem too...so please don't tell me that I shouldn't do something if my cats get mauled!!

No one can have pets that kill other pets! I really want my dog to learn so I don't have to give him up. HELP!


GSP    Posted 12-27-2006 at 10:16:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
today my dog killed one of our cats!! We are planning on getting a shock collar but I am afraid of it not working too....also afraid we are going to have to get a different dog.....HELP


chickenella    Posted 12-30-2006 at 02:08:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
This morning a dog that lives down the road from us attacked
one of my chickens , i got there just in the nick of time as the
dog had actually got hold of the chicken,having a large dog i
raced out and set him on the attacking smaller dog which let go
of the chicken (thankgod) and raced down the garden with my
dog fiercly running after it , i think my dog eventually got hold
of it and gave it a good lesson but dont worry he didnt wound it
in any way.
If you do have a larger dog then maybe this is the answer when
smaller dogs (which are usually the attackers) come into your
garden.
My dog is brilliant with Chickens the reason being as when he
was young he attacked a chicken so my Grampa grabbed him
and gave him one strong strike on his back he hasnt gone near
chickens since and that was 8 years ago(bytheway he is now
scared of walking sticks) Oh and if you want to know he is a
Border Collie.


Jessica    Posted 02-09-2007 at 06:59:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I have a 6 month old lab/mix male previously abused that all of a sudden started eating our chickens.I had to punch him in the face to get him to let go.Do you think hitting him hard across the back as he goes to grab the chicken would help? I don't want to have to get rid of another good dog because of this problem!


Jessica DESPERATE FOR HEL    Posted 02-09-2007 at 06:53:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I hve a previously abused lab/mix 6 month old male who all of a sudden started eating my chickens. I had to punch him in the face to get him to let go! Do you think hitting him with a stick hard across the back would work as he goes to grab the chicken? I don't want to have to get rid of another good dog because of this problem.


SCD    Posted 08-15-2007 at 20:51:32       [Reply]  [No Email]

Ok what I have done is build a 6ft fence inclosure. The main reason for this was to keep the foxes out but I may have to change it a little as one of my 2 dogs had killed one of my bantams. I cant say which one as the dogs have been running with the chickens a long time now and I haven't had a problem with them before. But I know it is one of them and not some other dog that I do know. So my suggestion would be to put up fencing where only your dogs can go and not get near the chickens or put electric fencing on the coop and turn it off of course when you have to enter it. Fencing can be obtained from recycle centres if you are on a budget or check around construction sites and ask what they are doing with the old fence wire there are many ways to get it if you can't afford new. Many farmers have their dogs chined so that they can get in and out of their kennel but there not left there all day long they are often with the farmer and only get taken to their kennel when they can't be supervised. I am not going to say there is a right way nor a wrong way. I have had a cattle dog in the past who killed many of my chicken when I first started buying them and I did what some of you say is retarded idiot and many words that have been slung over this board and yes it did work for me after three more dead chickens and doing this with every one of the three as it happened she never touched another bird or another animal again. But I have found another way as well and that is to make a good sized run where they are happy and so are my chickens. So in closing I hope some of these ideas will help someone it wont fix everyone's problem as each animal is different to someone else's but if it help a couple of you out there then that's great.
Good luck I hope you all find the answer you are looking for somewhere.


City Chicky    Posted 09-21-2007 at 21:11:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My 1 yr old Standard Poodle fatally injured one of my beloved
chickens today. I love my dog and vowed never to hit her, but
when you see another animal (my bird) suffering because of your
dog, you sometime lose control. I did hit my dog and yelled at
her until she peed on the floor. I felt terrible. I don't think that
by behavior is going to make her stop. That said, I don't want to
think of what would happen if she ever killed one of my cats.
I'm going to try a dog trainer and utill I trust her, a METAL
BASKET MUZZLE. She can't kill a chicken if she can't bite it. It's
really my fault this happened anyway because I wasn't watching
her when it happened. It only took five min. Its important for
both the dog and the chickens to free range, but not at the same
time. Thanks for letting me vent a little, and I hope this helps
someone.


Jason    Posted 08-06-2009 at 07:20:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Scolding your dog and giving him/her the business is part of the whole dog experience. They learn, and will learn after a few "happenings" that have you coming after them. I love my 3 German Boxers like no others...however, they all have the fear of god in them for various crap they have pulled coming out of their puppy-stage. My other half has 24 chickens that range around our house on about an acre of land. 2 of our dogs have killed chickens...bring on the frying pan. I can hear all the animal activists collectively gasping in disdain - Cassius Clay 2 year old Boxer will not even go near the chickens. Tyson the 1 year old killed one yesterday - he was picked up by his jowl's my me this time....little bugger had to learn...and carried over to the chickens that were no huddled in the corner of the yard after his assault on them. I then put his kennel in the chicken coop and left him there all day in it. We'll see if that works.

I look at the kids today - NO FEAR OF THEIR PARENTS....I was scared to death if my mother really was at the end of her rope - cause is used to be a wooden spoon or in school it was the strap for lipping off to teachers etc. WTF is with today????? No discipline for a$$hole kids that do asinine things b/c there are no consequences. Same drill with dogs - they second guess pulling the same stunt if they didn't like the result after the last one. ANY negative stimulus be it shocked, smacked and disciplined - the only unanimous agreement is that you MUST only discipline your dog when caught in the act. It will screw your dog up in the head if you try to discipline it after the fact cause they won't associate the negative with anything they have done.


Jim Jen    Posted 10-10-2007 at 12:20:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Re-posting to place this on the bottom of the webpage ...

Puppy Training

We have a new puppy (Molly who’s a Brittany, 6 mon.) who is starting chicken training. I hope to periodically update you all as to the progress.

We only have three chickens and duck, but will be expanding. We had more birds but the fox and bobcat relieved us of them. The birds are strictly for home use and the birds are free range.

We have four dogs (2 Labs, 1 Retriever mix, 1 Great Pyrenees), all of whom are good with the birds. We got the Pyr as a puppy and it is her training that we are using as a model for the new puppy. The other dogs we got at a much older age. We never had a problem with them, but they are pretty obedient.

Our training method is similar to how a Livestock Guardian Dog (LGD) is trained. The difference is we are training to guard chickens not sheep. So, the demands of this training are a bit easier. All we need the dogs to do is guard a fenced area and to not eat or chase the chickens. Simple right?

Well, as one might imagine, puppies like to chase feathery objects that make interesting sounds, run, flap wings and fly a mere three feet off the ground; what fun. A key factor in the training is to break the association of chicken with fun. It is a sort of socialization process. Here’s how it goes:

Level 1
1. Once house broken, the puppy sleeps in a crate in the chicken coop.
2. The puppy eats meals near the chickens. We do this by feeding the dog next to the chicken coop with the birds near.
3. Chicken chores are done with the puppy tethered to you.
4. No playing is allowed. All other dogs or playmates (children, etc) are not allowed in the area when the puppy is “working” with the chickens.
5. The puppy is not allowed to chase the chickens. Any attempts are corrected with a snap of the leash and a bark-like “NO”.
6. Closely watched bird introductions are done. With the puppy on a leash, we hold a bird and allow the puppy to calmly sniff the bird. Excited attempts to “play” with the bird are reprimanded. We are trying to desensitize the dog to the birds, so this is done a several times.

Once Level 1 is working well – this can take a few weeks - we move to Level 2:

Level 2
Most of Level 1 still applies, except now we try some limited “off leash” interaction with the puppy and birds. All contact must be closely supervised. It is important that the dog is responding to your commands to not pursue the birds. Commands like “NO” and “Leave It” should be understood by the dog. We believe obedience from the dog is the critical factor.

If a chase does begin, one technique used to show your disapproval is to bark a “NO”, take the dog by the scruff of the neck and roll the dog on its side, now glare at the dog. This is similar to how an adult dog reprimands a puppy. As you might notice, for this to work you must be close and watchful of the dog.

Level 2 progresses with more time with the dog with the birds. The goal is for the dog to ignore the birds. No stalking, no excited lunges as birds dart around or fly to a roost, no staring imagining how tasty they might be, nothing. By the end, the dog shouldn’t even look at the birds and it she does she should be reprimanded, LEAVE IT!

So, that’s it. That’s the plan. I think if one can train their dogs along these lines, the dogs can be expect to behave whether the birds are fenced off or free range with the dogs.

How did we do? Well, Fluffy, our Great Pyrenees puppy is now 2.5 years old. Our chickens run free with the four dogs in a fenced in acre of yard. At some point after our little program, she apparently attacked a chicken. We expressed our displeasure. After which we have never had a problem. As testament to the breed, we have never had a predator loss with Fluffy on guard duty. She barks a bit, but keeps the fox and bobcat away. It is not as if she watches over the chickens, but they happen to be in her territory which she keeps rather secure. The Labs on the other hand have been rather useless in guarding the flock.

We have had the new puppy Molly for two weeks and she is already into Level 2 with our first off leash session today. She has improved greatly. Molly assisted me with letting the girls in for the night. We had some following of the duck into the coop and some nervous chickens, but no all out chasing of the birds. We hope this good progress will continue.

Jim & Jen




Jim Jen    Posted 10-13-2007 at 22:22:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Update: Molly (puppy) no longer chases the chickens, off leash. We will continue to socialize her with the chickens (sleeps & eats in the coop). All contact with the birds is supervised. Molly is very sensitive to corrections which we think accounts for her quick learning. We believe this method described above could work for other dogs, but it will probably take much longer than 2 weeks. It really depends on how well you can train the dog.


Emily    Posted 10-10-2007 at 23:53:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I've got a little mini jack russell. She has the best personality. She used to chase the chicken but now she kills them. i rubbed her into the chicken and hit her and growled the whole time and was yelling at her. She knows its wrong. We feed our dogs once daily at night. I used to have a jack russell before this one and he killed 1 chicken when you wernt there but then he started killing our neibours sheep which we paid for because its the right thing to do. HE DIDNT TOUCH OUR SHEEP JUST THE NEIGHBOURS. the sheep were in blue gum trees that are out the back of the property and i caught him i yelled so much and hit him. He killed 5 sheep in total. We also have a blue heeler that was with the dogs when killing the animals but he doesnt kill them. We gave the other dog away and he kept killing. So he went to an elders home because he had a good personality and still run off so he had to be put down. He always had another dog with him when he did it. i dont know what to do with this one!!! i love this jack russell to much to give or to put her down. She is now tied up which she has never been before and just sitting there. Our family is very busy and we are on a hobby farm so we are not here all the time. i do play with my dogs but im also doing my final year at school so im very busy. i really need some suggestions.


Pat    Posted 08-05-2009 at 08:38:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You cannot have a jack russell with other animals.
They are going to kill, and even the sweetest ones still instinctively kill.
The only thing to do is leash them to go out to relieve themselves and keep them indoors, or get rid of them.

Jack's cannot be trained to not kill.

I know of one jack afraid of cats. Very unique dog too. But have seen him go after small animals.

One other suggestion, if you have time - might be shocking them with a shock collar if they get within a few feet of another animal. Some dogs will still pursue regardless, but it is an idea.

Golden retrievers are the best trained dogs around other animals.
I have raised 3 and i know they will protect smaller animals if they are raised with them since 6 weeks of age. Let them be around other animals and you have a guard dog for life.

I owned one who i raised with cats who was so gentle and concerned that he retrieved live baby rabbits to the house because the mom rabbit had died.
He also retrieved pet cats who tried to make a get away.

Retrievers are usually the most docile of dogs and yet most protective of children and other animals.
Which is why they are guides for the blind. Highly trainable, very intelligent.

Best of luck.


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