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Cindi    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:26:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I pulled onto the hard road day before yestiddy mornin' I could see, about a half mile away, a figure sitting halfway into my lane. Sitting, thank you, IN the road.

I knew who it was immediately. It's a sixteen year old girl who waits for the school bus every morning with her two year old son. I have passed her every morning for the last two years, from the time that baby was just a few weeks old. I also saw the child, squatting in the driveway a few yards from the mother's feet. I went into the opposite lane to go around her, slowing my speed to thirty miles an hour or so. The posted limit is forty five.

That day, this girl approached my daughter Jill in school and basically said....

"You need to tell YOUR mother that she needs to slow her AZZ down on THAT road." Finger waggin' in Jill's face. Jill being the sensible girl she is, said.

"YOU need to tell MY mother whatever you think you need to tell her. I'M not doin' it!"

So.....yestiddy mornin' miss prissy sashays herself out into the road, toddler on her hip and flags me down.

"Yes?" I say.

"You go too fast on this road. You have to be doing sixty miles an hour!"

"You determined that how?" I asked.

"I can tell."

"Okay from a seated position IN the road you determined that I am speeding. So what's your point?"

"My baby is not safe if you're going to be speeding on this road."

"Well...first of all, I wasn't speeding. When I passed you, I was doing about thirty which is fifteen miles an hour below the speed limit."

"Well, what if he runs out in the road?"

"I've thought of that. I've been thinking of that all year. I have already found a path into the ditch that I can take without maybe killing MY kids in the process, in case he does run out in the road, because you're clearly not responsible enough to know that you should be holding him or at the very least, holding his hand. And what, by the way, are you teaching him by sitting in the dam road?"

She jumped right over that question and pinned with a haughty stare.

"I can have the cops out here to check your speed."

"Go right ahead. I do not speed. But I have another suggestion." I didn't wait for a response. "Just as one parent to another. You cannot control the world to suit the safety of your child. It is up to you to keep him safe. Hold his hand, because assuming I am speeding which I'm not, even if I was doing ten miles an hour, if he darts out in the road in front of me, or anyone else, he is not going to fare well against a two thousand pound truck. If you knew anything about responsibility, chances are we would not be having this conversation right now, and you clearly have not learned anything else about it or you would know what I am telling you to be true. That child is either going to injure himself or cause an accident and you just don't seem to get it. You live on a highway, you need to take the proper precautons. When I see him, if he is anywhere near the road, I slow down, and I watch him. What I saw the other morning was YOU watching ME! NOT HIM!"

With that, she flipped me off and sashayed back the way she came. I would never put any child in danger, the whole situation makes me a nervous wreck. Not because I think I might hit that baby, but because people who do not live on this road, travel it every day, and have no idea that he is there, unrestrained, and could run out into the road at any second. I have no idea who to call about this situation. I couldn't care less about our little confrontation, but I can easily see this child getting hit by someone else. What would you do?


Linda    Posted 09-18-2003 at 19:08:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree the girl needs to be reported, mainly because she's endangering her child. The sheriff's office would probably be the best place to start. Contacting her parents would be iffy. If they've raised a child who is still having major problems, they may not have any coping skills themselves. It wouldn't hurt to let the school know, too, since they have some responsibility for their students.

The girl is obviously seeking attention and, like many problem kids, doesn't have the skills to differentiate between good attention and bad.

It's not your responsibility to take on the care of this child, but society may well have to become responsible for the safety of her child.

If you didn't already have your hands full with your own brood, I'd be tempted to suggest that some morning you just pull over to the side of the road, take a seat on a handy log or pull up a patch of ground, and strike up a conversation. Who knows what would come of it? Probably nothing, but it might be an interesting experiment.


Ana    Posted 09-18-2003 at 16:29:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I want to congratulate you on your handling of the situation. I wish I could think on my feet like that. You did well. And your daughter sounds like she's pretty smart for a kid too. Too bad intelligence doesn't run in the neighborhood, hugh? Let us know what happens.


Well.....    Posted 09-18-2003 at 17:46:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jill had given me a head's up the day before so I had been thinking on what I would say. If she had caught me off guard I probably would have said something profound like....'uh uh.' (grin)

I always think of those things I should have said, the day after.


BOSS    Posted 09-18-2003 at 16:03:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi,, Cindi, Cindi....remember that advice I gave that mentioned the Louisville Slugger ??


SusanMo    Posted 09-18-2003 at 13:47:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
sounds to me like she needs a trip to the woodshed


hay    Posted 09-18-2003 at 14:24:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
i think she already had a trip to the woodshed, but with the wrong person. know whadda mean?


~Lenore    Posted 09-18-2003 at 13:57:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Think the woodshed is three years too late...
That baby needs a safe environment now.


Dave Smith    Posted 09-18-2003 at 13:30:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Is this every morning? What is she doing in the road in the first place? Especially with a 2 year old. Looking to sue some one?
Child welfare should be notified.
Dave <*)))><


Every weekday morning....    Posted 09-18-2003 at 15:16:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
...waitin' on the school bus. She and her child ride the school bus to school and then she and the baby ride a short bus to a day care center, then she goes back to school and the process is reversed in the afternoon.

Cindi


LH    Posted 09-18-2003 at 13:03:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dont oyu have laws against her sitting in the road? and if her child is that close to the road it sounds like she may be guilty of child endangerment


hay    Posted 09-18-2003 at 11:39:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
maybe she should keep the child on a leash. that middle finger "greeting" shows how immature she is.


ArkansasLady    Posted 09-18-2003 at 10:58:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
FIRST of alll the problems lie more than just meets the eye, you have a child with a child, but this child thinks nothing of being disrespectful to an adult. I would be calling the authorities, because it is doubtful that contacting her parents will gain any help, also..I really like the air horn idea...heheheheh you might consider blowing your horn as you leave your driveway...see if she dont get her hinney up and get that baby by the hand...POOR sweet baby is clueless in all of it..PRAYING that nothing happens to the baby.

~Cindy~


Vic in Kenefick    Posted 09-18-2003 at 10:33:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like Elmer Fudd used to sing "Kill de wabbit" floor it and save the state tons of welfare money.


Les...Hmmm    Posted 09-18-2003 at 09:51:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
A 16-year-old with a two year old kid. She's real responsible, ain't she?


Jimbob    Posted 09-18-2003 at 09:37:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nice lady with the hand language! Ain't a lady for sure.

I can not believe the ignorance around some places. Nothing like that confrontation has occurred in my 4 square mile neighborhood in the last 15 years.


Ron,Ar    Posted 09-18-2003 at 09:34:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
you go ride a school bus nowdays and you will see a lot worse than that, and at 16 with a 2 year old,there ain't a whole lot you can threaten her with. She has already gotten her life messed up,you can only make it better, if you want to.


That was subtle Ron......    Posted 09-18-2003 at 10:13:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
....but I caught it.

I think it's hopeless though.

Cindi


Ron,Ar    Posted 09-18-2003 at 16:35:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
It probably is, and it's real easy for me to sit here and give someone else advice. I am real bad myself about getting an attitude toward teenagers 'cause I see the worst of them sometimes. I always regret not trying harder to help one when I could have made a difference and didn't. I would hate to be in her shoes, a child with a child and not much future, maybe I would play in the hiway too.


It is sad.....    Posted 09-18-2003 at 17:30:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
I can't help myself, when I see a kid in that situation I can't help but think that there was too little supervision. I may be wrong though, I know kids can sneak off and do all kinds of things even with the best of parents.

Cindi


Red Dave    Posted 09-18-2003 at 08:14:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
get an air horn, mount it low, pull up close.....he he he


Salmoneye    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:55:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Slow down...

30 is too fast in that situation...

Dead stop would have come to mind...Right up tight to the 'mother' (small 'm')...I would have yelled at the kid to get away from the road, and the 16 year old would have been given the choice of staying put or getting run over...


bower    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:45:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ok if she has a two year old that means she was pregnant around13 or 14. Woa! I'd be calling the Division Of children and Family. Tell them to drive by that time in the morning. They will see for them self.


Clipper    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:43:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Call the State Child Services....they might be interested in seeing that all is well with the child at home...an they may even offer some assistance and guidance to that "child" who is raising a "child"....


ladyhawk    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:41:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well if you truly think this child is in danger I first would call the sheriffs dept. and her adult mother and Let them handle it. If they don't get a handle on it I would feel responsible if I did not do anything to protect this child from the child (minor) that is raising it and being so irresponsible. So I would call protective services and have them take a look at what is happening in the mornings. At least you did what you could do. You may have a beef with the family but either way you will have that. Finally have the courage to do the right thing it is after all the baby we all are most interested in protecting from people like her.


I think I will.....    Posted 09-18-2003 at 07:54:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think I will just call the sheriffs office and have a deputy cruise by around seven thirty tomorrow morning. He'll know what to do I guess.

Cindi


Maggie/Tx    Posted 09-18-2003 at 08:18:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi, calling the Sheriff's Dept. to have a deputy come by at the time she is usually sitting IN the road is your best bet. I hear calls on the scanner all the time for deputies to check on someone sitting or walking in the road. It's illegal to place yourself in danger of bodily harm the same as it's illegal to try to commit suicide, and it certainly illegal to be negligent of the safety of a minor child.


I can't even begin...    Posted 09-18-2003 at 09:27:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
....to imagine Maggie, what she was thinking, not only for her own safety but for the impressionable child watching her. She was just sittin' there looking through her books like it was the most normal thing in the world. Grrrr...


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