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Lenore...about school.
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Cindi    Posted 09-21-2003 at 11:30:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes he is the one who wanted to quit, but he has been given a ray of hope this year. He has failed six grade and seventh grade, he should be in ninth right now. Now, get this. They put him in a special class environment where he has been evaluated to determine his learning level. He is reading and comprehending language on a twelfth grade level. He came home so proud of himself that he was the only kid in the class who knew what a podiatrist was! His math skills were 7.9 or seventh/eighth grade level. He has been told that if he passes the FCAT's, and if he maintains decent grades this year he will be mainstreamed into ninth next year. He will still be a grade behind, but right now he's towering over almost every kid in school and he's a year behind his sister when he should be a year ahead. So now he's motivated again, which of course motivates everyone else in his little circle of people, us, teachers, etc.

Why did he fail twice? Lazy. He did not do or turn in his work. Give him a test and he would ace it, but ask him to back it up on a daily basis, no way.

Willy-N    Posted 09-21-2003 at 15:54:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I was in school I had a hard time concetrating to what was being taught. I would look at the teacher and it was like the sound was turned off?? I also re/took the 8th grade and dropped out in the middle of the 12th grade. My problem was my mind was going 100-MPH all the time and allways thinking of other things. I also did not do my home work hated it. Several of my classes I got A's in the teacher kept me listning to them even if it took a ruler slamed on the desk. The one's that gave up I got D's and F's in those classes. Your son may need to be made to listen like I was. Now they just give the kids drugs and give up on them. Problem is even after 40 years my mind still goes 100 MPH and I won't take the drugs, to late now. Mark H.

Taylor Lambert    Posted 09-21-2003 at 20:51:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark I did the same in school, I couldnt write in cursive and when id try to keep up in print id stack my letters or write the begining of a word and put the last letter in it. I had a teacher tell me how I wasnt trying. Mom took me to a specialist and He put down a big pile of building blocks and showed a drawing what they needed to look like. I passed it good then i tried another test with interlocking parts and it didnt take just a minute for the dr. to tell mom I had ADD. They put me on Ritalin and it helped bu my math still stunk. When i got to Pre algerbra i did good but the next year in HS I failed. The next time i was in advanced shop math and could apply it and pre algebra and was one of the best in my class.
I did good in Science and Biology stuff like that. But in every note book and my mandatory journal i kept getting scolded because of drawings of things i was building In metal shop. I hated English still cant figure out predicates and such. I just couldnt see where to apply that. Plus my 11th grade English teacher would give detention if you said a word and used it wrong you had to stay in at break and coppy the dictionary. With my slang and pronunciation I had to keep my mouth shut was the best bet. THe first week in that class i got nearly to the B's in the Websters dictionary.
My senior year I had 2 good teachers and they did anything to help a peron and made class and enjoyable experience. Id have quit school if it hadnt been for Welding and Machine shop Class.
My mind still runs wide open though.

Willy-N    Posted 09-21-2003 at 21:30:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
You sound so much like me!! Shop classes were my best grades I could see what I was doing. English classes I think I flunked all of them. I was fast in reading, real fast! I could build a building in my mind but not write a paragraph right. My spelling is very bad and puncuation is wrong. I did pretty good with my hands working. I have done a lot of jobs Collage people would have a hard time doing. Self taught in my trades thru the school of hard knocks. I can wire a house or a school and have done both a lot. Take a engine apart and remember where all the bolts and nuts went when it comes to putting it back together again with out refferences just different cans. One thing to remember is one person can't do it all and the world has many different types to keep it working. Not many things I pay to have done for me, built many buildings and such. But as far as school it was not my best subject. Mark H.

~Lenore    Posted 09-22-2003 at 06:53:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
"My senior year I had 2 good teachers and they did anything to help a peron and made class and enjoyable experience"..Taylor

How sad that all teachers dont do that.
I know they are pressed for time and work hard,
but to me working like those two teachers is no harder,
but much more rewarding.
If you are going to work hard any way,
why not set your goal to being successful?

Taylor Lambert    Posted 09-22-2003 at 14:50:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I heard this morning that the same teacher from 11th grade is being investigated for her practices of techineg. Out of the whole school shes had the highest flunk rate. SHes the type that has the job to be a boss.

Willy-N    Posted 09-22-2003 at 08:01:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
After school I tried about 15 dead end jobs. Joined the service and got a GED. Since then I have had several buisnesses and one was a Comercial Electrical Contracting Shop for 13 years. I was also the Administrator/Owner for the Company. Been self employed for around 20+ years now. To spoiled to work for someone else except my 3 hour a day School Bus driving job that I get Medical Insurance keeping the Bus at my home. Mark H.

Old Sarge    Posted 09-21-2003 at 14:46:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
As a former school teacher I have a hunch he is like one of my grandchildren. BORED to tears and hates school. I approached her teacher about it, she agreed, tested her and guess what she is now in advanced placement. Officially in the 6th grade, but now doing 9th grade Algebra and history.

Linda    Posted 09-21-2003 at 12:01:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm glad for your son, Cindi.

Mine was finally tested when he was 15. His reading and English skills were at the level of a 27 year old, while his math and science skills were at the level of an 11 year old. No wonder he was struggling in school! He received special ed help for three years and graduated with his class. He still enjoys reading and has learned to adjust and use tools to get him through when he's faced with math. He's a chef and he loves his work. He can't really help his daughter with math, but he knows how to find the assistance she needs and that's what's important.

~Lenore    Posted 09-21-2003 at 11:39:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is great news, cindi!
Now that he is grounded he can do all that school work he was not doing!!
A smart boy who thought he could goof off;
now he has no excuse.
You all know the problem is not that he is "dumb or slow";
just lazy. LOL
Seems he has lost his excuse for not doing well.

Keep after him, mom.

Cindi    Posted 09-21-2003 at 12:06:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's exactly right and don't think we don't remind him of it every second.

How smart is a boy who lets himself fail out of laziness? Don't tell me....prove it.

Jimbob    Posted 09-21-2003 at 12:16:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have never seen such lazy children as I have in the past 15 years. I must be getting old, or something. In our area when growing up, the peer pressure alone would isolate a person with the heading DumbA$$.

You will just have to deal with it or home school him. He may pick just up on a skill that commands good money. Only in the USA!

Cindi    Posted 09-21-2003 at 17:11:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well I'm not so sure it's a universal thing. My two girls do their homework religiously and also do their in class work.

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