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Killing weeds
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jj    Posted 10-20-2003 at 14:12:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think next year I am going to have to use some herbacide on the garden as the weeds are taking over. What is a good brand of herbacide to use, when do you usually apply it, how often, and if you till the garden in the summer and bring up weed seed, will it sprout and grow and does the herbacide kill it all. I have never used any.
thanks


KellyGa    Posted 10-21-2003 at 06:13:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Noticed somebody mentioned Rye grass, planting it in the garden, my dad does that, too. The newspaper thing was for during planting. And the tilling it under is great too, like he posted.


KellyGa    Posted 10-21-2003 at 06:10:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now my dad has gardened for years. He has a friend that gave him a great idea, and he used it, and it worked. Dont bother with the weed killers, and the plastic isnt biodegradeable. What worked for my dad was newspapers. They last longer than you think, and they are biodegradeable, so there is nothing to get up out of the ground later. Nothing gather ing water that would breed mosquitos. Just lay them between the rows, and seems like he would put grass clippings over the papers so they wouldn't blow away, and makes good soil too. Hope I helped a little! :)


Randy    Posted 10-21-2003 at 03:40:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
If the garden isn't huge you can put black plastic over the area. Heats up the soil and kills weed seeds and allows no sun to get to them. Round Up works well. Can plant in a few days from time of spraying. Some sprays only kill the part of the plant it touches.


hay    Posted 10-21-2003 at 03:39:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
use roundup super concentrate (50.2%) according to label directions and after the weeds are dead, then go in and deep plow and disc smooth and let it lay over the winter OR plant a cover crop as mentioned. something like mustard or winter rye grass as a cover/green manure crop and turn it under a few weeks before spring planting. other option would be use a large black plactic to smother weeds.


Plant a cover crop...    Posted 10-20-2003 at 17:51:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
.....On the whole garden this year for over wintering, and a succession of cover crops next year on half of the garden, i.e. mustard, buckwheat, fava beans, annual rye grass. Tilling under the cover crop enhances the garden soil (increased organic matter, nutrients, reduced insect carry over) and cycles weed seeds to the surface.

On the half of the garden you are going to plant:

Plant started plants where possible (tomato, squash, melons, etc.).

Presprout any seed possible (corn, peas, beans etc.) before planting.

Use compost to top dress the rows, prevents seeds from seeing sunlight.

Use a pre-emergent weed suppressant (corn gluten) after the gasrden plants are up, prevents seeds from germinating. Good for 6-8 weeks depending upon watering, by then leaf foliage should shade out most of the weeds.

Consider the merits of installing a drip system. Great for dry climates, conserves water and minimizes weed growth.

Use a "scruffle hoe" early and often.

For weeds that do get started, teach the children to pull and toss them to the chickens, ducks, geese and turkeys.

For the future, never till after a garden crop. Use trimmers, loppers or a machette to cut out plants to go into the compost pile. Leave roots where they are, they add substancially to the soil. "No Till" ( scruffle hoe and rake)in a cover crop as soon as possible. Only till the soil to turn in a cover crop. Any part of the garden that is waiting for a crop( tomatoes, melons, squash, corn etc.) keep it in a cover crop until two or three weeks before the soil is needed.

Remember: Gardening is better for your health than the best gymnasium or "Health Club", chesaper too.

HTH

Alex




Bob/Ont    Posted 10-20-2003 at 15:27:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
JJ,Weed spray works on the leaves of plants and has to be absorbed into the plant to work. Might be a good idea to only plant half of your garden and work the other half all summer with the rotor tiller, get the weed seeds to grow then kill them. That might clean it up a bit.
Later Bob


deadcarp    Posted 10-20-2003 at 17:30:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
that was the old way if dealing with weeds - they called it summer-fallowing. the idea is to plow up a patch and then keep harrowing to expose roots to air/sunlite and dry them up til it improves. usually some root-burning involved when the weather's right. :)



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