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Sure glad Jim went Hunting!
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Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2003 at 07:21:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was all in a rush to have my tank welding finished. Jim said wait till I get back from hunting and I was bummed since I allways want things done yesterday. Well I weighed the truck yesterday with the new bed on and it was 11,000 lbs empty. Problem is the way I wanted to set it up it would have overloaded the front axle but 500 lbs+ and light on the rear with the 14,000lbs of water, tank and pumps. So I have to move the tank back 2 ft and put the pumps on the Cab end. I would have had to re weld all the fittings and re/run the pipes to the front. Now Jim will tell me SEE you are allways in a hurry arn't you glad I went hunting! I will have to eat Crow now and feel better it will turn out right. Pays to slow down and smell the Roses once in a while. Mark H.


Hal/WA    Posted 10-24-2003 at 13:27:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, I think you will like having the pump close to the cab anyway. I have worked with trucks done both ways and in my opinion, the forward mounted pumps are handier.

Have you considered a skid for mounting everything on your bed? If you had everything tied together on a skid or frame, it sure would be easier to get it off when you want to use the truck as a flatbed. Then you would just have to remove a few mounting bolts, some electrical connections and then could lift off the whole firefighting apparatus. You could even weld on lifting points on the skid.

Your bed looks quite high off the ground. I don't know if you are considering hauling hay and bucking bales to that bed, but from my experience, lifting the bales up that high from the ground gets old real fast. You might want to try to find a pop-up loader that attaches to the side of the truck and picks up the bales from the ground and lifts them up quite high onto the bed. The ones I have been around use ground traction for power and just require the truck driver to steer the truck so the bale on the ground matches up with the pickup on the loader. I have seen them in working shape for $400 or $500 and allow you to haul hay from the field with 1 or 2 less people or without having to climb up and down very much. Buying hay in the field can be much cheaper than from a barn or stack. But it is a lot of work handling it any way you look at it.

Your truck is progressing nicely. Keep it up. And good luck!


Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2003 at 14:27:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just finished the tank mounts and the tool box mounts. The 2-tool boxes come off with 4 bolts each. I have 4-lifting EYE's on the Tank allready. I made 4-mounts 2 at the rear that hinge up and down and 2 at the front that will be spring mounted that bolt into the frame for when the bed flexes. Once these points are welded to the tank it can be lifted off by removing 4 - Grade #8 1/2" Bolts. I am putting 90% of the pump set up on the tank which is sorta like a skid allready. I am thinking of attaching a mount off the bottom side of the tank for the pump to bolt on to that way it will come off with the tank all together with out un/hooking anything. As far as hay it is loaded for me on the truck or trailer and I have a elevator for unloading small bales and a Loader for the Big Bales. I don't buy it out of the feild anymore. I am likeing the pumps near the cab now too! It is all in one place and easy to start, stop and re/fuel. Mark H.


Willy-N Mounts Picture    Posted 10-24-2003 at 14:54:47       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here is a picture of the mounts. I still need to gusset them. The Little tool box is for fittings and nozzles and the big one is for big tools and hoses ect. It is offset because you get on the bed at the drivers door where there is a grab handle and 2 steps. I have about 5 ft of room between the tank and the cab. The cab end is where I will mount the Water Cannon on the tank that way I have a good place to stand when using it. Pumps will be on the pasenger side of the bed with a dump shute at the rear along with a fill hose fitting. Hose reel on the drivers side with outlets on 3 sides for hoses. The suction hoses are stored under the bed behind the alum door on the rear above the licence mount. Mark H.


Dave Wi.    Posted 10-24-2003 at 07:36:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh to have your ability to do stuff like that.
I know enough about a lot of different things to be dangerous or get in trouble. ;0)


Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2003 at 07:56:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
There is this neat formula to figure out Truck Weight Distrubution. The Formula is CA(Cab back to rear axle center)-CC(Cab Clearence to front of load)- 1/2 BL (Length of Body or Load)Divided by W/B (Wheel Base) = Percent to front Axle, then you take the total Load weight and figure the percentage that will go on the front axle (add to exsisting weight on it) and see if it is not over loading it. Formula is CA-CC-1/2BL Divided by W/B = % Load. Mark H.


Dave Wi.    Posted 10-24-2003 at 11:28:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow,thats some formula,it'd take me awhile to figger that out,heck I just learned how to do
cu in displacement,after I got it it's quite easy.


whew,    Posted 10-24-2003 at 07:30:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Glad it went that way for you Mark. That sounds like a load of work to redo if he hadn't gone out on a hunt. Mike D.


Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2003 at 07:58:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am just tring to get the hard part done befor the Snow starts flying here. I guess that is why they say measure twice cut once! Mark H.


sHan in TN    Posted 10-24-2003 at 08:02:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
kinda like cut the board 3 times and its still to short....lol have a good 1


Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2003 at 08:09:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I put the wood on the Bed I forgot that I bought 14 ft boards instead of 16s. So I started to cut the ends clean not worring cause I had lots to spare. Since I had 14 boards (2 spares) to cut I was going to do them all at once. I cut the first 2 and tossed them on the bed and for some reason I double checked and they were too short! Sure glad I did not cut the rest of them!! Mark H.


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