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Seeing the California fires is like B.C. all over
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Willy-N    Posted 10-27-2003 at 10:03:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Boy they sure have a mess down in California going on with those fires!! So many homes and lives lost all ready. Makes a Earthquake seem small if you are living down there now. Mark H.


toolman    Posted 10-27-2003 at 17:02:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
california has asked and b.c. is sending resourses to help, thats good , on another note ,it,s been in the news up here , the gov.t hasn,t paid our fire fighters for leaving there homes and travelling to parts of the province where they were needed, now some of them same firefighters who the govt. were calling heroes a few months ago are in danger of losing their home ,cars etc, all because the british columbia is dragging their heels on paying these folks.


Willy-N    Posted 10-27-2003 at 18:44:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds about right they do that to us too. Sometimes it takes months to get paid but they want you to respond and drop everything when you do. How soon they forget when the fire is out! Mark H.


toolman    Posted 10-27-2003 at 19:15:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
its not right mark , these guy an gals laid it all on the line, some of them even had their homes burn while they were saving someones elses home and now one guy didn,t even have the money to buy stuff his young kids needed to start school, our premier was just on the news saying the local govts. should have paid and he would have straightened it all out later, great at passin the buck, the firefighters didn,t they showed up did what they were supposed too, now i guess it,s up to the people off b.c. to show and get on the phones tomorrow and call these jerks and demand that they pay the firefighters.thats what i,ll be doin.


bulldinkie    Posted 10-27-2003 at 13:25:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Does anyone know how close the fires are to New Mexico?My hubbys there hunting elk.Hes in Chama.


cowgirlj    Posted 10-27-2003 at 11:23:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The MAFFS Airforce team is being deployed tomorrow to help.


Patria    Posted 10-27-2003 at 10:17:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just read on the taler's hang out that big fred is worried about his daughter and fa.

Hope is over soon and that 'no news is good news'..


Willy-N    Posted 10-27-2003 at 10:24:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
From what I am seeing on the news it is not going to end soon! Over 850 homes lost and 300,000 acres burnt allready. The homes are so close together and hard to stop once it gets going in a track of homes and so many people in the way with little room to move around fast. One real mess! Mark H.


ret    Posted 10-27-2003 at 18:48:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
know what is so tragic about these fires is it is a common occurance down that way. People will build on the ashes of their homes only to have another fire or mudslides in the future. Do you notice how heavily wooded it is there? Again, people want trees all around the homes and it just repeats itself. This problem has been going on forever, it is like someone building a house next to a river. you got to know sooner or later you will get flooded out. Makes you wonder why it is allowed.
REt


Willy-N    Posted 10-27-2003 at 19:06:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
So true. I would think they would learn how to live with Mother Nature since it is hard to beat her when she gets going and is having her way! They still build a lot of homes with shake roofs too and some of those homes with trees growing over the roofs and filling in the yard right next to heavy dry brush is just asking for problems. The homes being so close makes it hard to stop one from lighting another one and going right down the line taking out the whole block. You can't even fight them when there that close the heat will get you or be trapped. Mark H.


JanO    Posted 10-28-2003 at 09:31:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I live here in California, and I can say that the roofs aren't the problem, not even the vegitation. Shake roofs were outlaw'd here over 20 years ago. They don't build homes with them any more. Unfortunatly, there are still some out there that weren't replaced though. Homeowners either couldn't or wouldn't pay the price to put a comp or tile roof on their homes. Our brush clearance regulations are pretty stiff too. Not all people pay attention to the regulations though, and the fire department or CDF has a heck of a time checking up on the homeowners. But I agree that there are a lot of places that shouldn't have trees over the walk ways, or roofs.

The biggest problem we have right now is the winds that's pushing the fires into new "fuel". A lot of the "fuel" that's been burned is either Federal or State property. The individuals couldn't clear the even if they wanted to... but when the Santa Ana winds are blowing that wouldn't make any difference. The winds are hot and very dry, perfect for pushing an inferno. They say that under these conditions that an ember can be blown for miles and start another fire. I have a hard time imagining that, but I'm not an expert in it so I'll leave it too the professionals. Maybe the answer would be to clear the sage brush that's on the hillsides, but then we'd we dealing with more flooding and mud slides because we depend on that brush to hold the soil. I dont' know what the answer is to the conditions we have out here, but maybe somebody will come up with some answers before the next big fire season. By the way, it's been 10 years since we've seen this much "flamage". There's been other's, but not this horrible since '93.



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