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terry    Posted 10-29-2003 at 05:07:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
doe any body know if squirels and chipmunks get a long togeather,i heard they dont, if not . does anybody know why?


B Anastasio    Posted 02-06-2004 at 11:24:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I don't remember seeing squirels here, but, now I have what seems to be a squirel living in my backyard in a pile of firewood. He has burrowed holes under the stack and all the dirt, which is alot, is piled up in front of the stack of wood. He looks gray and I'm wondering what kind of squirel it is as I am from the East and squirels live in trees.


RayP(MI)    Posted 10-29-2003 at 10:28:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Slightly OT.... anyone here with experience with BLACK squirrels? I understand they were imported from Europe by THE Mr. Kellogg, of breakfast cereal fame, years ago. They were released in the Battel Creek, MI area. They have been spreading ever since. Now seeing them in the central Michigan area. How do they geet along with native squirrels, do they take over?


screaminghollow    Posted 10-29-2003 at 13:24:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't know if your squirrels are a different species, but in many city areas and parks, where squirrels tend to be isolated in groups, such color mutations as albinism (white) and melanism (black) tend to be more prevalent. In DC there were several parks with many black and white squirrels. Out in the country such squirrels are rarely seen. Years back I knew a guy that had a couple of white squirrels as pets, don't know if he ever bred em.


RichZ    Posted 10-29-2003 at 12:07:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ray, I don't think that's true. Black squirels are generally natural mutations, and if the black coloring is beneficial, then those black squirels reproduce more, and the color spreads.

For example, there's an area of the Bronx, in NYC, that has black squirels. In the early 20th century, that part of the Bronx was very polluted from smoke from coal funaces, and many of the tree trunks were black. The black squirels blended in better, and had a higher survival rate, and the color became more common, as the black ones reproduced.


JoeK    Posted 10-29-2003 at 12:20:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
DNR says the blacks here in WI are just color variations on the grays,same spieces,sub spiece.A few yrs back you hardly ever saw a black,but town about 35 mi away had em and they were protected by ordinance.I suspect that either a few got transplanted "accidentally" or came thru on vacation trips,cuz the population here is growing.


ret    Posted 10-29-2003 at 19:09:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here in Va , on my woods I see black squirrels daily. They seem to intermix well with the other squirrels. I only had one in my front yard a few years ago, now I have seen three at a time. also have some that are grey with a blackish tail. They seem to be hardy little guys.
REt


JDK    Posted 10-29-2003 at 10:05:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Around here chippies seem to get along everybody,foraging under the feeders etc,however I know gray squirrels and red(fox)squirrels do not co exist well in same area.Around here grays seem to live in regular trees and reds seem to prefer evergreen trees.Funny thing though,I've seen a single lil red put the run on a big gray,but usually takes 2-3 grays to run off a poaching red squirrel.Never seen any agression between squirrels and chipmunks,but chippies are always goin like the dickens before somethin eats em :)


screaminghollow    Posted 10-29-2003 at 07:47:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Apparently someone cares because the Pa Game Commission recently gave a grant to some biologist to study the aggressive interaction between the gray squirrels and other squirrels. Apparently, the grays are booting the fox squirrels out of fox squirrel territory. At my place we also have flying squirrels, but they are strictly nocturnal and the grays are strictly day light, so the two rarely have to meet. I've seen grays and chips forageing for nuts under the same tree, so I don't know that there is much competition. I haven't seen a red squirrel around here in years.


RichZ    Posted 10-29-2003 at 05:27:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Do you mean in captivity, or in the wild? Squirels and chipmunks are both in the squirel family. In the wild they co-exist, because squirels live in trees, and chipmunks are ground squirels. I don't know how they'd do together in captivity.


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