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Scott    Posted 11-02-2003 at 13:44:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am in the process of buying ten acres for camping, recreation and relaxing. Mainly pasture with some trees along the property line. I will not be living there full time. However, I do like the atmosphere of a small farm. Are there any recommendations on hardy, self-reliant poultry or other small farm or exotic animals? I can make a trip to the "farm" about once a week to feed, water and check on them but the rest of the time they would need to live off the land or stay in their pens or shelters. Any suggestions or will all animals need more care than I am able to provide?


Michele    Posted 11-03-2003 at 15:36:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey, Scott--rather than bring in domestic animals, why not attract and give winter protection to wild animals? Put out a salt lick and a few bales of sweet hay under a lean-to for deer,and a large bird feeder. I'd think you'd be doing your farmer neighbors a favor if you provided the deer with hay to fill their hungry gullets. Maybe your scent on the hay will make them not run away when you show up.

Good luck.

Michele


Art    Posted 11-03-2003 at 08:58:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Try one of them battery opperated dogs....


bulldinkie    Posted 11-03-2003 at 04:19:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
too much can happen.You really shouldnt.Geeze I live on 40 acres I cant let my chickens and turkey out 2 times in one year a neighbors dogs came in and killed a bunch.Plus they would be out at all times something would probably eat them. But goats etc too much can happen you need to be there.


Scott    Posted 11-03-2003 at 04:02:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for all the responses. I was not thinking I would have any large hoofed type animals. I have looked at guineas and peafowl as possibilities. Maybe turkeys. I was just wondering if there was anything else to consider. As a side question, are guineas as loud and noisy as I've heard? I would hate to be a nuisance to the neighbors.


Larry 8N75381    Posted 11-02-2003 at 17:50:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'd like to ask, "What is the point in having animals that you see only once a week?" That is far too infrequently for them to "get to know you" so that they are not "fearful/shy/withdrawn" when you are there.

If you think of an animal as a human being, BUT at an age corresponding to their level of intelligence, you will have a better understanding of my point. Of course, if you have no children and have had no exposure to very young children, you probably cannot understand. Young children, babies/infants too young to speak, etc. will frequently be afraid and cry if left with strangers. My youngest grandson is somewhat that way. He simply takes a long time (i.e. he needs to "get to know") to warm up to people - even ME! since I don't see him but once a year. (1000 miles is a LONG way!! - Darn! Darn! DARN!!!!) :-)

Since you "like the atmosphere of a small farm" maybe you should look into finding some neighbor near you that has a working farm where you could "help out" and get to experience the "the atmosphere" like you are looking for. However, I must warn you, I don't think there are many "small traditional" farms left.

I, like you, like the farm atmosphere. So I bought property in 1968 and more in 1986 that combined is now some twenty times the size of yours, BUT it will never be a farm like the one of my youth. (I was a city boy, but was lucky to have a Grandmother that had a large farm where I got to spend some time each summer.) The best I can get is to have a neighbor rent from me for hay and pasture. So even though they are not mine, I occasionally get to see week old calves, or watch the young calves jump and run around in their youthful exuberance. Still I miss the lambs and sheep my Grandmother had. I will NEVER forget feeding the orphan lambs when I was young, had to hold on to the bottle (and especially the nipple!) with BOTH hands!!

Good luck in your search,
Larry


Linda in UT    Posted 11-02-2003 at 16:43:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know, there are domestic animals that can survive on their own, but very few that will thrive on their own.

Keep in mind one of the big hassles farmers and ranchers are facing is the weekend person like yourself who is not around to tend to their livestock on a daily basis. What about the horse or cow that gets a hoof caught in the wire fence on Monday and you don't show up again until Friday or Saturday. What about the animal that decides to wander through a weak spot in the fence and visit the neighbor and you're not there to see that it's missing and go take care of the problem?

Guineas would do ok. Some chickens would do ok, unless you have coons and skunks and mountain lions like we have here in the west.

Think very carefully about this before you make a decision to leave a domestic animal on its own for a week or two at a time.


bill b va    Posted 11-02-2003 at 15:05:13       [Reply]  [No Email]

not advice... but food for thought there are many animals that will survive and do better with little or no help from man . examples guneas fowl (sp) ,pigs ( many places gone wild and do really well ) ,(horses every one knows of the mustangs out west and the ponys on chintique isle . who hasn't heard of the texas long horns ? cattle gone comletely indepentent of man . i don't especially care for cats but i have one that stays in and around my shop/sheds where there are many field /deer mice that cause me problems . we get along just fine . he/she runs away when i go there and i never bother it .i am sure it was a dropped by someone . i would think if there was a good water supply and natural food plus suppemental food by you it would work just fine .now comes the peta/animal rights/ tree huggers and the other morons that will want to put you in jail for wanting to let animals free range .


TomH    Posted 11-02-2003 at 14:59:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here ya go. I know these will be okay. ALl my neighbors and I have several around...


Hunter n NOLa    Posted 11-02-2003 at 14:34:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Game chickens and Guinea fowl are very self reliant. I rent horse barns to some people on a large piece of property that is wooded pasture land. Some of the barns are pretty far back in the sticks. Their game chickens and guineas seem to thrive very well.


KellyGa    Posted 11-02-2003 at 14:21:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm no expert, but I do know all animals stalls have to be cleaned daily, fresh hay and grain and water. Not to mention cows need to be milked, eggs have to be gathered. Vaccinations for the animals.

My daughter wants miniature horses when we move, and I insist on knowing everything you can about an animal before getting it. So, she will and is. She understands that she will have to get up before school every morning and tend them.

I have no livestock, yet, but all of my animals and in my opinion, all animals need daily attention for their needs.

Every morning I get up and change the food and water to all my birds. The cats get fed, the litter gets scooped, the dog gets let out and fed, the iguana gets fed and her cage hosed off if needed, heat lamp on during the day, not to mention everybody needs a bath or a pill or a trim or nails trimmed.

I know hooved animals have to have their hooves trimmed. Animals are a lot of work, so if your hearts not in it but once a week, I really wouldn't. I love all my animals, and will have more when we move, but I know that its going to be a lot of work, and thats okay with me! :)

Good Luck, enjoy the 10 acres :)


toolman    Posted 11-02-2003 at 14:08:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
don,t think part time farmin works very well, if your gonna have animals you had better be prepared to spend time looking after them or you will end up losing them and thus your investment in them.


Fawteen    Posted 11-02-2003 at 14:01:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am unaware of any animals that I'd be comfortable leaving unattended for a week at a time.


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