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OT: Is there such a thing here? Quad ATVs and Nt
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Dave 50 8n    Posted 11-21-2003 at 22:18:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is a "two-fer."

#1) Been toying with the idea of getting a Quad ATV. New Hondas, Yamaha, etc. are pretty pricey. Anyone here familiar w/the Commando or Kazuma brands? Any other brands out there that are good? They seem to be about 1/2 or less than the "brand names."

#2) Been thinking about getting kids one of them Ntendo/Playstation/X-Box game things. Other than the price, what's the difference?

thanks in advance, and I shave with a disposable... sometimes in the shower, and sometimes outside, and sometimes w/o soap (ow).


John    Posted 11-22-2003 at 22:17:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
stick with one of the major ATV manufactures. if the price
on a new one is too steep, you are far better buying a 10
year old used honda, kawasaki, polaris etc., then you are
buying a new off-brand machine made in china.

i have 2 honda 3 wheelers, and all ive ever had to do in 20
years is change the oil anually and adjust the brakes. those
two are the most reliable pieces of equipment ive ever

as for the gaming systems. the nintendo Gamecube is
geared more towards children, but there are also many
games for teens who enjoy role playing type games.
Playstation has the widest variety of games- something for
everybody. X-Box is geared more towards the older teen/
adult gamer. better shoot em up and sports games. The
playstation and xbox can also play DVD movies, which is
convenient if you don't have a DVD player. However, the
xbox requires that you buy a remote if you wish to watch
movies. playstation allows you to use the game controller
for a remote.
Nintendo and Xbox allow 4 players, playstation only allows
2 players.

TimV    Posted 11-22-2003 at 08:31:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dave: Not exactly sure what you have in mind for the ATV, but in general they're one of the handiest things you'll ever buy. Around here (Northern NY) they're pretty much standard equipment, with nearly every family owning at least one. These run the gamut from old '70's-era Honda 3-wheelers to brand new rigs. I've seen a few of the newer "import" (read: China) models, and they'd probably hold up fine for easy riding but they're built WAY too lightly for anything serious. Also, I imagine parts would be difficult to come by, especially a few years down the road. Stick with one of the 3 major brands--Honda, Polaris, and Yamaha and you won't go too far wrong. Also, older ATV's can be picked up quite reasonable, and there's still a lot of life left in many of them. Of course, avoid ones that have been owned or rode by kids or hot-rodders, and you'll be able to get a good machine for a third of the price of a new one.

Fawteen    Posted 11-22-2003 at 11:11:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'd add Suzuki to that "major brand" list. Other than that, I'm with you on all counts.

TimV    Posted 11-22-2003 at 12:27:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Fawteen: Yes, you could, but in my experience (and that's quite a bit, at least as far as ATV's are concerned) Suzuki is an also-ran, along with Kawasaki, Arctic Cat and Bombardier. While they're decent machines and have some good points, none of these four manufacturers can compare to the big 3. Don't mean to start a color war, I'm just calling 'em as I see 'em. On the other hand, all of the above are far better than the new cheapie imports, and as they tend to depreciate faster, you can get a better deal on them as well. A buddy of mine picked up two Kawasaki Bayou 300 4x4's last summer for $1500 total. For what he does with them--general utility work, hunting, and some light trail riding, they're all the machine he needs, at about one-fifth the price of a new one.

Bob at 6F this AM    Posted 11-22-2003 at 05:24:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Our 13 year old has XBox and Playstation - he prefers the XBox. He is more into the computer now.

I wonder if anyone uses the ATV as a work tool scraping off snow or? Is it too small and weak to be of any use?

TB    Posted 11-22-2003 at 15:09:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes we have a FWD 87 350 big bear Yamaha hi/lo range with reverse. We have a 5' snowplow that takes care of our nuisance snows That does a great job and less time for the most part. We have a trailer that will haul about a 1/3 cord of firewood. Used it in the garden to pull a light set of harrows around. Light skidding, search and risqué. Small water trailer for the garden & sprays our fruit trees and have used to fight some forest fires.
The other ATV is an 85 225 sp Yamaha hi/lo reverse we have a 42" bush hog that we use for trimming and keeping trails cleared and numerous jobs and chores. Yup I will say that we use our ATVs more for work than pleasure anymore. Seems a shame but I don't think I would buy one without intensions of working it. Kind of justifies having one around. As long as you have Hi/lo range and reverse and a good size motor you can do a lot of work with them. Just have to keep the rpm’s up and a lo enough gear so you don’t slip the clutch.

Ludwig    Posted 11-22-2003 at 06:32:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually yeah I was sort of suprised when I learned it though.
Last winter while I was gainfully unemployed I spent alot of time helping out at the local snowmobile/motorcycle/dirtbike/atv shop.
We sold, mounted, serviced ALOT, like maybe 200 ATVs with plows. Everything from the cheap armstrong type up to the fancy hydralics run off an electric pump kind, including the winch lifted ones.
I never believed they'd be worth much until we had one in the shop for sale and I tried it. Well the worst problem I had was that the yard truck hard already pushed piles 8 feet high so the ATV couldn't compete with that, but if you had just the ATV you could start by pushing your piles far enough back and get through a winter okay as long as you don't live where it snows a tremendous amount.
The ATVs we mounted plows on were all the BIG kind that usually weigh in at 500# or better. Then add a 200# rider and you've got the ground pressure to move some snow.

Paul Johnson    Posted 11-22-2003 at 06:31:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I own a Yamaha Grizzy 600..must be 5 years old bout now. I find it indispensible as a tool around my property. I use a 36" tiller attachment to till my garden and corn field. Use the winch to pull out shrubs and then use the winch to yank my garden tractor out of the mud when I get stuck near the creek trying to mow too close to the water. I hook up a home-made trailer and haul yard debris or firewood or used straw from cleaning my goat pen out to the back to dump it. So mine gets used pretty well as a tool around here.

cowpie    Posted 11-22-2003 at 04:45:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
The major difference is the games. Nintendo has a lot more younger and family-oriented games. X-box and Playstation have more R-rated and violent games. There are also a few games available for all three consoles. Just drop hints to see what they would like if you are not sure. Chances are that some of their friends already have one of these, so they might know which one they like best.

Salmoneye    Posted 11-22-2003 at 04:40:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dunno a thing about ATVs other than they are pretty impractical here unless you have lots of your own land...There are no trails here and they are illegal on the road except as a registered farm or work rig...

As for the Nintendo etc...Do yourself a favour...Ask em which THEY want...Trust me here...

bulldinkie    Posted 11-22-2003 at 03:01:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Weve jad polaris and Honda both are pretty good.Hubbys looking at the new one with the cargo hold on front and back

Vic in Kenefick    Posted 11-22-2003 at 01:52:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I been thinking about one of them ATV things too but I need a new roof on the house. We got a B275 Internatiional that Funboy thinks is an ATV and is always busting something on it or gettin it stuck in the creek.

Far as them games you were talking about. I found that any of them will keep a kids mind off home work.

Also I normally shave in the shower and use the bar of soap that I wash with as a lather.

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