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John Deer 4210 Damage to underneath of tractor
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Tami    Posted 11-25-2003 at 16:01:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We recently purchased a JD 4210 tractor to do some grading of recently cleared property. Won't detail ALL the problems, however an object struck the Hydraulic Return housing, it cracked and 29 quarts of hydraulic fluid spilled all over the ground. JD says this is our problem, however they are designing a skid plate for this tractor and we may want to purchase it when available.

Is is normal to have parts under a tractor meant for dirt work, that if struck, would break and completely disable the tractor?

hay    Posted 11-26-2003 at 03:11:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
sometimes things just happen. looking under my JD 870 there is a hydraulic filter that could be hit by brush or another object and of course the hydraulic line itself. it is amazing i never tore or busted either with the way i used to bushhog out over logged land. i did manage to break both the brake pedal return springs by going over rough brush. like the others said, compact tractors should not be used for heavy land clearing, but lots of folks do anyway. be safe!

Dave Munson, mid illinois    Posted 11-25-2003 at 20:08:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Take another look under the tractor. Darn few things that you can hit with something and quickly shut it down as the hydraulic line. It is not like the lines are plastic: they should be metal. How high from ground did an object jump up to hit the housing? The repair should be quick and relatively inexpensive. Must have been a good rock.

Donít run a tree into the radiator Ė not much protects it and that is more expensive.

A compact tractor is designed to do just about anything as long as you donít get too carried away with it. Be careful.

Taylor Lambert    Posted 11-25-2003 at 16:51:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually tractors arent built for heavy land clearing. Most farming is already cleared land and little chance of finding sticks and stobs. Is it a hydrostatic or syncshift tractor.? A good welding shop can also make a skid plate for your tractor. I build them for the power company and other right of way mowers. Dad and I do custom mowing on the side and have moved up to heavy bush hogging and light thining so we plan to build a few armor kits for our tractors as well. A stick comming through the floor board of a tractor can be dangerous. IVe got a friend that was impaled with a sick while logging. They can break an oil pan on a tractor to.
Most dozers and and logging equipment have 1 inch thick belly pans for this kind of work. 5/16 or 1/4 plate would work for this little tractor.

Mike D.    Posted 11-25-2003 at 16:11:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Tami,
1st. off let me say I'm a fan of the other green tractors... OLIVER!

Were you pulling a Rome disk? What is the makeup of the land you had just cleared?

We have cleared a lot of new land on our place. Generally we don't disk until I have graded with the crawler. Were you grading with a front end loader on the 4210? Just curious.

Tami    Posted 11-25-2003 at 16:30:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We had a front end loader (bucket, nothing attached to the pto.
The land had been cleared and somewhat graded by heavy equipment. We were actually just pushing around the left over burn and dirt piles. Seems an object (probably a rock) struck the hydraulic return and it cracked where screwed onto the tractor.
JD tells us a skid plate is being developed, but just seems not right that you get a tracter to push dirt, and something so fragile is exposed underneath.

Frustrating and expensive.

here is the key    Posted 11-25-2003 at 18:04:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
"just seems not right that you get a tracter to push dirt, and something so fragile is exposed underneath"

Mostly ag tractors have been designed to pull implements, not to push dirt. That is what crawler tractors were designed to do. I know what you mean about being frustrated with the repair though. A rock could have caused it, but a big root can do damage like that also. That tractor can exert a whole lot of power at the rear wheels, and a stob or root or rock was just in it's way.

Your local welding shop can fit a jim dandy shield for you. Probably at 1/3 what the Deere sheild will cost. 29 Qts. of fluid? I hope you noticed it quick enough to shut her down.

Good luck with the repair, and likewise, with your clearing. Let us all know how it works out for you.

Mike D.

Sid    Posted 11-25-2003 at 17:23:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes it can be frustrating but as Taylor mentioned farm tracors are not built for that type of work. I have done the same thing you have done only fortunate enough not to suffer any damages such as you mentioned. I will agree that when a company designs and build a loader for a farm tractor they do not take some steps in the design that will greatly reduce damages such as you have from happening. I hope you can get some help from the dealer but I would not expect very much if any.

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