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TO35    Posted 11-29-2003 at 21:14:19       [Reply]  [No Email]

Did you know?

As you walk up the steps to the Capitol Building which houses the Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view ... it is Moses and the Ten Commandments!

As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.

As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall right above where the Supreme Court judges sit a display of the Ten Commandments!

There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington, D.C.

James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement... "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country, said "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians . not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.

Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.

Thomas Jefferson worried about that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law, an oligarchy, the rule of few over many.

The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said. "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."

How then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 200 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?




Raven    Posted 04-11-2004 at 08:03:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The text "Did You Know?" is a widely distributed spam that has already been throroughly debunked, including at
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capital.asp (with links to other documentation).

For instance, the quotes from James Madison and Patrick Henry are simply phony. Neither man said what this text attributes to them.

The sculptor who designed the frieze "right above where the Supreme Court judges sit" stated that the Roman numerals I through X in that artwork represent the ten amendments in the Bill of Rights, not the Ten Commandments.

The figure of Moses appears among other great lawgivers of history, so this does not represent any singling out of a religion. The text you reprinted falsely claims the other lawgivers face toward Moses, but see for yourself that the figures on each side (Confucius and Solon) are also facing forward: http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/scotus4.jpg

And no matter what John Jay may have thought in his private opinion, in plain fact the Constitution does not suggest that "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers." Article VI says explicitly: "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Besides, in America, officials are public servants; the people are the rulers.


screaminghollow    Posted 12-01-2003 at 13:05:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
As I recall, you also see the name Hamerabi on the Supreme Court building, but we don't follow the old code of Babylonia. If you get really technical, about the ten commandments, we could never defend ourselves in a war. "Thou shalt not kill" The Al Quaida and other nuts would have an easy time of it and we'd all be buzzard meat.
There is truely no doubt that the ten commandments were the first codification of the laws of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic cultures. Apart from that historical significance, don't read much into it. There were a host of other laws followed by the ancient Jews, which if followed today would put more than one pig farmer out of business. Stoning adulters to death etc. I never cease to wonder about the Christians who read so much into a Jewish set of laws to bolster their own religion.


Michele    Posted 11-30-2003 at 11:42:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
There's a small typo in the first message. The capitol building doesn't house the supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court is located in the capital of our country, Washington, D.C.

As far as Christian symbols located in our government buildings, I believe that until we give publicly-funded space to every religion represented by American citizens, I think we should tout none.

But don't feel shortchanged; there's a church sitting on non-taxed land on practically every street corner in this country, and your donations to the Pope or to Jerry Falwell make that part of your income non-taxable, so I think the government already does its fair share supporting religion.

I'm a Christian who doesn't want the government to dictate how I worship, but I know that door swings both ways.

Michele




Berry    Posted 11-30-2003 at 10:54:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I don't want to stir some anger because I have no problems with the Ten Commandments, but I do know some people that are nice, decent people that are not Christians. They tell me they feel greatly put-upon by the demands that Christians make by thinking they are the only religion in the U.S. Well, I see their side too. Of course, these people that I know just ignore the media noise over who is doing what, quietly live their lives, pay their taxes, obey the laws, just like most of us.


Redneck    Posted 11-30-2003 at 07:21:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Until folks give in to the trash that are tearing at the very heart of this country,or put their foot down and boot them out!You don't have to be a member of organized religion to know right from wrong.They will argue for a child molester,rapest,or murdering thief,but against the commandments.Sort of tells me something.


rancho calypso    Posted 11-30-2003 at 04:35:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I wonder if any of this information was used in the case of that Judge who recently was removed from office for not removing the 10 Commandments from a public building?

God Bless America!


bob ny    Posted 11-30-2003 at 05:51:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
i have typed three different posts getting hotter with each one i have deleyed each one i feel better now i have vented but no one knows but me GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY AND FREEDOM TO WORSHIP THE WAY WE WISH


Wm. from NC    Posted 11-30-2003 at 03:51:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kinda makes you wonder where OUR supreme court turns when they need help, doesn't it?


bill b va    Posted 11-30-2003 at 00:36:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
good question . i wonder how it will be until all religious references will be removed from federal property .


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