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What is a30-40 Craig rifle?
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Dave Wi.    Posted 12-01-2003 at 05:52:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bought an old rifle and the guy says its a 30-40 Craig,the action is rusted and the stock is beat.He told me it's a breach block??,dont know athing about it,doubt if I'll try to shoot it,but for $20 I thought it would be nice to have.

Nick    Posted 01-03-2004 at 18:50:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I got a 30-40 craig from my grandfather 8 years ago when I turned 12 too hunt deer. In the past couple of years I have gotten deer and two Elk. Extreamly accurate 400 to 600 yards. Mine is a bolt action with a five round magazine that open from the right hand side and a cleaner kit holder in the stock. Also the flip up sight still works great. I think the rifle was used during WW2, because of the words on the barrel that say world war 2on it. My advice is too put alittle work into it and keep it.

B K Ballard    Posted 06-17-2004 at 11:05:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
your rifle was last used as a training weapon early in world war 1 and most were sold through the DCM just after the armistice it may have seen action during the Phillipine inserection and the spanish American war your rifle would never have been used during World War 2 except at National guard centers or militias and maybe for high school and college cadet training

screaminghollow    Posted 12-01-2003 at 12:51:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Is the rifle a Krag or is the caliber of the cartridge a 30-40 Krag. Years back I had a Remington rolling block in 30-40 Krag. I understand some of the other single shots were made in 30-40 Krag caliber. Like the Winchester Highwall. Your message is a bit confusing since the Krag rifle was a bolt action repeater. It would be a breach loader, but so would the single shots. Your use of the word "block" intrigues me. No one refers to a bolt action as having a block. There could be a falling block action, rolling block action, swinging block action, break open action etc. If it is an old single shot, it might have quite some value even as a rust bucket for parts or restoration. As a Krag bolt action however, maybe only 50 to 150 bucks in the shape you describe.

Dave Wi.    Posted 12-01-2003 at 13:19:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like you know them.It's not a bolt looks like lever action but a single shot.It's so rusted I cant get it open.

screaminghollow    Posted 12-02-2003 at 07:04:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
There's some tricks to older guns if you could post a picture or diagram of it I might be able to talk you through the easiest way to open it and to ID it. Standard hardware store screw drivers will mess up the mild steel screws and bolts in short order. Penetrating oil on the screw holes and action for a few days may help. A good set of gunsmithing screw drivers can avoid damage to the screws and bolts. Believe it or not, those little replaceable tips for drill drivers can fit better than a standard slot screw driver because they are hollow ground. If it is a Winchester Highwall, it could be worth 200 to 300 dollars just for the parts. Check the American single shot rifle association web site and some of the antique gun web auctions (like pictures of various old single shot actions. My bet would be a Remington rolling block, a Winchester highwall or perhaps a Stevens 44 1/2. Possibly even a Ballard or Remington Hepburn. There were many manufacturers of such old rifles. I'm intrigued to say the least.

Dave 2N    Posted 12-01-2003 at 13:42:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This sounds like it might be a Hi-Wall. Go easy on it; try some penetrating oil for a while to get the lever and breesch block to work. this might be a neat piece to have.

Stan TN    Posted 12-01-2003 at 16:46:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes get it to open than take it to a gun show. Any Winchester made before 1964 brings crys of joy to Winchester collectors. Ask a lot for it, in fact think of a lot, then ask twice that much.

Bill Wallace    Posted 12-01-2003 at 09:44:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A .30-40 Krag rifle is .30 " caliber with 40 grains of black pwder originally, now available with smokeless powder. It was the standard rifle caiber before adoption of the .30-'06 Springfield (.30" caliber, adopted in 1906).

Jim in michigan    Posted 12-01-2003 at 07:13:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dave, I will give you your 20 back plus shipping,, my uncle had one and it was a beast ,,cost about 3 bucks a shot..I would like one to just hang on the wall...Jim

Dave Wi.    Posted 12-01-2003 at 08:44:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thats my intentions also,thought was an oldy,just want to clean it up and display it with my 38-40 rifle and revolver + 32-20 rifle I got from Grandpa. (I think I got lucky)

Ron,Ar    Posted 12-01-2003 at 07:28:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bid 25.00 :^)

kraig WY    Posted 12-01-2003 at 07:04:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
the 30-40 Krag was the military rifle our Army used between the 45-70 Springfield and the 1903 Springfield. It was used during the Spanish American War. It was a good rifle. Somewhat in power between the 30-30 and the 30-06. It used smokeless powder but in them days the cartirges were named for the calibar-30, and the amount of black powder that would fill the case 40 grains. IE 45-70, 45 cal, 70 grs of black powder. Some of these, the 30-30, 30-40 Krag, never were loaded with black powder but still named the cartridge after the black powder loading.

LH    Posted 12-01-2003 at 09:12:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Krag-Jorgensen was also unique in the box magazine loaded form the side. Had a sporter version years ago I wish I still had, they were a fine rifle

dusty    Posted 01-03-2005 at 20:49:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I just got a 30 40 krag I dont know much about it other than my father says it is a calvery version. its in great shape and has a strange magazine on it not removable. can anyone tell me something about it and how much it may be worth.

Ron/PA    Posted 12-01-2003 at 11:44:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Exactly LH, that's what made them so attractive to us kids, was the side loading action. It was a cheap way to get away from the breach load action of the springfields.

Stan TN    Posted 12-01-2003 at 16:41:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Admittedly the Government sold them at $1.50 a pop after they became surplus, but they weren't cheap. Just examine the machining that goes into the magazine box.

Grove r    Posted 12-01-2003 at 08:08:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
My oldest bro owned a 30 US which is the 30-40 craig rifle, long barrel, lever action, looks a lot like the 300 Savage, open sites, deadly accurate, in the right hands. Will accept the 303 cartridge as well, but does not carry the power of the regular ammo. and no, not for sale.......have a gooder, R.E.L.

kraigWY uhhh    Posted 12-01-2003 at 09:53:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Be careful, the 303 is actually .313 cal. where is the 30-40 is .308. Depending on the condition of the rifle, pressure could be excessive

Ron/PA    Posted 12-01-2003 at 08:13:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
My next oldest brother had a craig, and we found out too late that if the bolt was not seated 100% there was a chance of the bolt opening and eliminating several of your front teeth. Supposedly this came with wear, I guess my brother's had just enough wear to warrant a brand new set of store boughten teeth at the ripe old age of 19

Wally P    Posted 11-18-2004 at 19:56:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I also have a 30-40 Krag box mag. rifle. This one was made by Springfield in 1896. There is not a bit of rust on it, inside or out. Fine piece.

Dave R    Posted 12-07-2004 at 13:06:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The .30-40 Springfield Krag rifle was the first US military issued, smokeless powder repeating rifle. First model and issue was 1892. The last being 1903. Very distinct side magazine loading concept. Various reasons the US Govt. went with this model, it was easy to breech load primarily (conserve ammo), as the trooper was also issued a Mills Belt w/100 loops to carry your bullets in (around your waist). The M1896 and M1898 carbines were the rifles Teddy Roosevelt's men carried up San Juan Hill, during the Spanish American War of 1898. The infantry model is the same, except the longer barrel and lug for the bayonet. The Navy carried these through WW1, and finally gave them up soon after. These were the sweetest shooting military weapons ever issued. Everything since was configured with the .30-06 (mule kickers), up to Vietnam. We were up against the Spanish Mauser (8mm) and could only get 5 rounds off, to their 8-9 rounds. The magazine box and track was not a smooth idea. Lots of complications jamming when the breech gets too hot, and the troops too excited. These were the best deer huntin' and shootin' rifles ever produced by the US Govt..cherish the history!

Ron    Posted 12-18-2006 at 11:45:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a 30 40 craig that was sent over piece by piece during WWI. all made it except the stock. a gunsmith fitted a remington stock on it and I have been hunting deer with it for over 20 years; nice, accurate and dependable rifle. I prefer the silver tipped shells but am unable to find them. anyone know where they can be acquired?

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