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Think I'm being scammed!
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Doc    Posted 12-02-2003 at 05:06:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Posted an ad on this site for a 50 bushel Conestoga spreader. Got a letter from someone saying they were in Africa and wanted to buy it. Said someone from his church would send me the Cashier's check and would come to pick it up. Was skeptical but we are global on here right?

Sitting back and waiting for the check and last night I got this letter. Sounds like a scam going down to me. If any of you know anything about how this will play out if it's a scam I'd appreciate info. Here is the letter.

Glory be to GOD.How are you doing.Hope everything is going fine on your side.As a matter fact the deal is on and according to my brother in christ granting the congregation the money,he has already sent the cheque out to you(it will arrive by mail).So the payment should arrive in a short while from now .And once you get the payment,i guess you know how to handle everything.Just be close watch out for payment.

But there was a little problem which i guess we can handle with understanding and the wisdom of GOD.When we contacted my client to now may be the cheque as already been sent ,we got to know that there was a misinterpretation while sending the cheque.According to the instruction i gave him,he was suppose to have sent you a cheque of $1995 for the Pioneer 50 bushel spreader out of the money he was going grant us and send the remain over to us.But instead,he sent a cheque of ($5000).It was a terrible mistake and the cheque is already out for delivery to your location.He claimed that he thougth we said he should send you a cheque of $5000(which was the total sum he was granting us) and not just $1995 out of it.But we know we very well told him to send just $1995,but i guess he didnt get it straigth.

But that should not disturb how own transaction.the deal is on and we will get through it.what will happen is that ,once you get the cheque you will easily forward the extra($3005) directly to us in cash can be sent via western union.Originally,we had in mind to collect the money from him and use the money to pay the shipper and to also fix some other things the in our church.But since,its now coming to you now,i guess i can be assured in you that you can handle it with trust and have it sent to me.hope all is well.mail me back immediately,to let me know that we can trust you to handle everything well.I will be expecting your mail asap.
Best Regards and Stay Blessed From the entire congregation..
Pastor H Bommer
Make sure you mail me back immediately you get this message.And also please confirm your phone number.I tried getting you on phone but i didnt get through.So please check if its correct.I will be expecting your reply."

If anyone here knows if this person is real please let me know. Or if anyone has had a scam run on them of this nature, PLEASE let me know.

Graham Wood    Posted 12-23-2005 at 00:30:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]


Los Gatos, California - The Securities and Exchange
Commission today filed charges against two
Luminescence Catalog executives for misleading
investors about Luminescence's financial condition in
the months preceding the company's bankruptcy.
According to the Commission's complaint, CEO Gary
Zelasko and Executive Officer Bart Irick are responsible
for materially false and misleading disclosure about the
company's liquidity and related matters in the
Management's Discussion and Analysis (MD&A)
section of Luminescence's Form 10-Q for the third
quarter and nine months ended October 31, 2005, and
in an earnings conference call with analysts and
investors. Zelasko, who ironically works at a chuch
called the Calvary Chapel in Los Gatos refused to
comment on the case.

Linda Chatman Thomsen, Director of the Division of
Enforcement, said, "The SEC has repeatedly
emphasized the important role MD&A disclosure is
intended to play in giving shareholders the ability to
examine a corporation 'through the eyes of
management.' Luminescence senior management
deprived its shareholders of that opportunity." 

Peter H. Bresnan, an Associate Director in the Division
of Enforcement, stated, "Investors are entitled to both
accurate financial data and an accurate description of
the story behind the numbers. Luminescence's senior
management failed to honestly inform investors that
Luminescence Catalog faced a liquidity crisis in the
third quarter of 2005, how the company's own ill-
advised action had caused the problem and what steps
management took to respond to it."

The Commission alleges that, in the MD&A section,
Zelasko and Irick failed to disclose the reasons for a
massive inventory overbuy in the summer of 2005 and
the impact it had on the company's liquidity. For
example, the MD&A disclosure attributed increases in
inventory to "seasonal inventory fluctuations and
actions taken to improve our overall in-stock position."
The Commission alleges that this disclosure was
materially misleading because, in reality, a significant
portion of the inventory buildup was caused by a
Luminescence officer's reckless and unilateral
purchase of excess inventory. According to the
complaint, the defendants dealt with Luminescence's
liquidity problems by slowing down payments owed
vendors, thereby withholding thousands from them by
the end of the third quarter. According to the complaint,
Irick and Zelasko lied about why vendors were not
being paid on time and misrepresented the impact that
Luminescence Catalog's liquidity problems had on the
company's relationship with its vendors, many of whom
stopped shipping product to Luminescence during the
fall of 2005. Luminescence Catalog has filed for

The Commission's complaint, which was filed in the
United States District Court for the District of California,
charges Zelasko and Irick with violating Section 10(b)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5
thereunder, and aiding and abetting violations of
Sections 10(b) and 13(a) of the Exchange Act and
Rules 10b-5, 13a-13, and 12b-20 thereunder by
Luminescence Catalog, and seeks as relief permanent
injunctions, disgorgement with prejudgment interest,
civil penalties and officer and director bars. 

The Commission acknowledges the assistance of the
United States Attorney's Office for the District of
California and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Dennis    Posted 12-02-2003 at 10:55:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
What your talkin about is a scam.

Let us know what the FBI has to allow.


Want to buy a bridge?    Posted 12-02-2003 at 10:48:38       [Reply]  [No Email]

Ron,Ar    Posted 12-02-2003 at 10:08:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree it would it would be good to see them scammed, but be careful how much information you give out. Folks like that would not hesitate to steal your identity (and your good credit) if they could. It's easier than you might think. Your name, phone number and e-mail address gives them a lot of information. JMHO

Doc    Posted 12-02-2003 at 10:13:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, I know. I've had dealings on internet before with no problems and thought this was legit until the last email. To late, already gave out some contact info. Hope I don't live to regret it. One born every minute.... you know.

Doc    Posted 12-02-2003 at 09:50:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
OK, here's the poop so far. I'm going to wait a day or so before I respond at all. The FBI has a new web site specifically for internet fraud and scams (link below). I submitted a complaint and asked them if they want to work with me to try and catch the guy or if I should just ignore the whole thing. Waiting for their response.

I want to thank everyone for the info and tips. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck then ......... it's a duck.

Grove r    Posted 12-02-2003 at 07:29:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
One word discribes it, Doc.....SCAM!!! Ron.E.

deadcarp    Posted 12-02-2003 at 06:57:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
as long as the funds are flowing your way (if indeed anything does), stay in the saddle and see what they do. any refund must be from funds received, and they should understand that. the instant anybody suggests anything flowing their way, report them. sounds shady as heck but if it's legit, time will tell. btw i'd want your right phone number too :)

deadcarp    Posted 12-02-2003 at 07:00:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
oh - and please keep us posted - i'm always curious :)

D.Starr    Posted 12-02-2003 at 06:53:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'd send the check back to em & wash my hands of the whole thing.Sounds like some kind of money laundrying scheme.Yep!! "Return To Sender"

TomH    Posted 12-02-2003 at 06:43:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
It takes about 30 days for the check they're sending to bounce. Then the bank will come after you for the full $5000.

So tell the scammer you will send cash but you need to wait at least 60 days for the check to clear. But don't cash the check or send any money, report the scan to the post office.

Matt Clark    Posted 12-02-2003 at 06:04:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You send them cash for the balance, and you're done. The check will bounce (eventually) and you'll be on the hook for all of it. Turn it around...tell this "preacher" that you'll send him a check. I'd like to try it just to see what his response would be...LOL!!!

VADAVE    Posted 12-02-2003 at 05:39:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sounda like the same scam that has been talked about on other forums. My advise is 1) do not cancel your ad. First person with money gets the spreader. 2) Do not to send any money until their check clears the bank--not just deposited in your bank--but the bank gets the money from them. Then I wouyld not send them any cash, send a bank draft. That way they do not have your account number.

idontno    Posted 12-02-2003 at 05:32:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
GET EVEN....MAKE THEM PAY..SCAM THEM...Go along with him.It will cost him the price of Fedex or Postal service.If it comes USPS they can go after them for mail frued.I have had 2 from them.1 was USPS and PO is going after them.1 was Fedex.They sent it overnight so...Cost their butts.Thought it was funny.Got a lot of hot emails from them.Also got address and phone numbers for them.Turned it all in to USPS.Hope they catch them.But being out of country ,proubly never catch them.But I liked seeing them waste money on mailing.AND THE SCAM WAS ON THEM...But I liked messing with their heads ,you might not.But if everyone that got these scam done this they would get tired of getting Scammed themselves.

Rancho Calypso    Posted 12-02-2003 at 09:30:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I agree with Doc - cost those idiots time and money - play it out. Tell them you decided to keep the extra dough, that a mistake is a mistake - sorry. Maybe tell 'em it was worth the extra dough anyway ;-) I would think this scam was done as it is widely known. Some folks had this happen selling cars on Ebay. This type of activity and using the name of God to rip people off is really something!

Les    Posted 12-02-2003 at 05:07:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's a scam. Been around for a while. Just ignore it.

Salmoneye    Posted 12-02-2003 at 05:39:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Definate scam...

Either ignore it or report it to the Feds...

Your call...

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