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No water from well to house
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Stressed    Posted 12-10-2003 at 06:50:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We are trying to move into this old farm house. Water was shut off after last people moved out probly 2 years ago. When we went to turn on the water pump the pump blew. When we pulled it out it was no wonder it was completly covered in rust. Replaced the pump and pressure vavle the pump works builds pressure then shuts off. There is a bladder tank hooked up also but there is one problem we dont have water going to the house. We checked the backflow valve at the house and the well and they both are fine. They open and close. Could it posibly be something with the bladder tank? We are stumped and dont have much money to call the pros.


Michele    Posted 12-11-2003 at 21:24:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Any chance it's a clogged filter? My filter will stop water from going to the house if it gets too clogged.


wvbill    Posted 12-10-2003 at 16:47:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ask the neighbors who might have installed or worked on water in the past...ask for local handy man,he might just come over and trouble shoot for you,,offer to trade work with him....it may be a simple solution.....otherwise,sit back and look it over figuring out how to trouble shoot or ways to test it yourself.


deadcarp    Posted 12-10-2003 at 08:55:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
we had a similar problem last spring. moved back in february (dead of winter) had to get the submersible and pipe replaced, then the pressure was turned down to try to limp thru a leaky supply line til thaw. it lasted 2 days, the leaking water followed the pipe to the house and we started flooding the cellar. so we shut it off, kept a fire going in a barrel stove, thawed enough ground to dig down 5 feet to the supply pipe end, managed to slip a 1" plastic pipe thru the existing 1 1/4" plastic, coupled it in, buried it again and it's been there ever since. good luck :) yup from the sound of things, you either have a frozen line, a valve shut off or broken pipe. if it'll run thru a garden hose, the big job's done.


Charlie    Posted 12-10-2003 at 08:31:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sounds like a valve leading to or in your house is shut off.? Anyway, you may want to check a tap at the house when the new pump you installed is running but if you've heard/seen the pump cycle more than once, you may have a problem between the pressure tank and your house- the water is going somewhere
Your H2O rig is setup with no pressure gages?


calpso    Posted 12-10-2003 at 07:37:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I think more information is required here. How far is your well from your house? Do you have any water source (like a hydrant) between the well and the house? You have pressure at the bladder tank (which is in the pump house or?). Do you have water to the water heater or ? Perhaps you can get a pressure gauge on an incoming pipe at the house to see if you have or can maintain pressure. It is possible you have a break in the line from the well to the house. What size and pipe type is being used? Where are you?


Stressed    Posted 12-10-2003 at 10:33:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
The well is about 40 feet from the house. We have taken the pipe apart in the basement at the shut off valve there so when the pump comes on it should shoot water straight into the basement. We are in central Indiana and it has not been cold enough yet to freeze. Actually we have been messing with this for over a month now. There is no other water source between the well and house. We have ran a small snake (10 feet I think) from the house towards the well and back from the well towards the house and its open that far. Could there be another check valve burried somewhere along the line. It is 1 1 1/2" galvonized pipe.


Lazy Sl    Posted 12-10-2003 at 12:11:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stressed
The pipes have to ad up . If you have a pipe in by the well heading for the house and one in the house heading for the well , You would figure that is one pipe . but is there some place else it might go . If it was rusted out your pump would cycle on and off . So is there a valve by the pump ? If there is take it apart and see if you have water there . and work your way back to the pump . A valve might not be opening or some thing .
Put air on the pipe in the house and see if you can hear it out by the well . or see if holds
presure . Let people know what you find out .
Al


Jimp Co    Posted 12-10-2003 at 11:57:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
I take it that this is a standard well with the pump submrged. Right?
Do you have pressure showing at the tank and does it drop when you release some from the drain valve and they re-pressurize when the pump comes on?
If so then you have a restriction in the line, either another valve or it is plugged up.
So far you have checked only 20 ft. of the pipe. How far is the well house from the house?
Can you get some wire or even romex or single strand electrical wire and run it all the way through. ( Even a long tape measure will go through that 1 1/2" pipe.) watch for ells tho. If it gets stopped, you can measure the distance and dig up the pipe at that point. There just may be a buried valve ther.
Hope this helps.


Red Dave    Posted 12-10-2003 at 11:47:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not clear on a couple points, is your pressure tank in the basement or in a well pit? Is the pump pumping and filling the pressure tank?

If you are putting water pressure in one end and it's not coming out at the other, and, you are sure there are no valves or branch lines in between, you are getting short of options.
I see two ways you may want to procede:
1/ Dig
2/ Try what deadcarp did and see if you can get the pipe open enough to slide a little smaller plastic pipe inside it. Maybe a 1" plastic would fit inside your 1-1/2 galvanized? You'll have to measure carefully to decide what size to try. A 1" pipe would easily flow enough water for most average household needs.

Maybe somebody else sees another option, but from your description, I don't. wish I could think of a better way to help you.


Red Dave    Posted 12-10-2003 at 07:27:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't know where you are, so I'm just guessing, but could you have a buried line frozen? Maybe a closed valve in the line you haven't yet located? Is it iron pipe that is rusted closed?
Like I said, I'm just guessing.


Pitch    Posted 12-10-2003 at 12:05:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
What I think you need to do is to start at the pitless adapter. If you have water coming from the pump to that point every thing in the well itself is ok. There is every possibilty that the galvanized is plugged or even broken after sitting for two year without use. If it was mine I would just replace the galvanized with black plastic and be done with it. Fifty feet with fittings and clamps would set you back less than 100.00 bucks and renting a trencher for a day another hundred. The way it is now you have a chunk of buried metal pipe of indeterminate age with probably 4 metal unions in its length and it has given nothing but problems and even if you do open it how long is it going to last.Remember the two years of nonuse allowed air into the pipe and set up a perfect situation for corrosion to build up. Go with plastic before winter sets in.


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