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Somethin's been worrying me
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Cindi    Posted 12-12-2003 at 04:36:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's even worse now that I work third shift and have been traveling the back roads in the dark on an almost nightly basis.

I was talking to a man night before last. He came into the store at about midnight to buy an aquarium for his sister for Christmas. Said she'd just awakened after an eight month coma. She hit two cows in the road coming home one night and the resultant crash just about killed her. He wanted the biggest auaraium we had. It was a hundred and fifty dollars. He said it was worth every penny as it was what she wanted and he wished we had a bigger one.

There's just no way to really prepare for something like this is there? I think about it all the time. What would I do if I came upon a bunch of cows, or even one in the road. Or a deer, or a wild hog. I use my brights and slow my speed at night, but somehow it doesn't seem like enough preparation.

What would happen if I came up on an eight foot alligator stretched across the road? It would be hard to see and it would have to be the equivalent of hitting a speed wave at fifty five miles an hour. I have visions of becoming airborne. If I tried to stop and hit it at a slower speed, couldn't it possibly flip the vehicle?

I have heard horror stories about hitting a deer and having it come through the windshield, the driver being impaled with a hoof or an antler. Shudder. Somehow I never hear any stories...oh yeah, hit a cow last night, wrecked my car but I'm okay. Are there any such stories? Or do they all end in tragedy?


KellyGa    Posted 12-12-2003 at 18:21:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had 8 deer in aline jump a fence and cross the road one morning right around a corner of road. Had to stop and wait on them, I was sure somebody was gonna come barreling around that bend and eat my rear end up, but they didn't and Tip got quite an eyefull that morning. She had never seen deer, but she was going nuts, she wanted those deer!!! Now when I say "Wheres the deer?" She gets all excited. "Wheres the squirrel" is the big go getter! Imagine she will have a good time out where we are going!


Dale    Posted 12-12-2003 at 18:04:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
There's a deer collision here just about every night. Had 3 within 500 feet of our house this year so far. Deer aren't a big deal usually though, moose or elk are another story. This summer at about 11 at night we clipped a moose with our passenger side mirror, 18 wheeler behind us hit him square on and did about 10 thousand damage. Moose have most of their weight high so you usually take the legs out and take most of the mass through the windshield. Had a log truck just north of us hit an 1800 lb bull elk and totalled the truck.
Starting to have more collisions now with black bears though, three that I know of in this area lately. In one, the police took their time showing up so the volunteer firefighters went into the woods after a wounded bear with fireaxes because they knew there were a lot of houses in the area with kids outside. Luckily she just went deeper into the woods instead of looking for somebody to vent on.


Ray    Posted 12-12-2003 at 17:54:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just the other night up the road about 5 miles
a driver hit a horse that ran into the road
about midnight,it went through the windshield
and almost kicked the guy to death.I don't think
he died,but was in bad shape,haven't heard
anything lately.


Newgen    Posted 12-12-2003 at 17:23:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I always figure if you worry about everything that's supposed to kill you you'll end up worrying yourself to death!


Rickstir    Posted 12-12-2003 at 10:47:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know the feeling Cindi. I drive 50 miles to work through some of the most deer populated counties in Missouri. I just bought a Dodge Ram 1500 quad cab pick up. First thing I did was mount a sturdy (and I do mean sturdy) brush guard on the front. Second was to get extra driving lights that cover a bigger area that the standards.
Deer, and I guess aligators, can be anywhere but there are some areas more likely to have deer travel. Be aware where woods come right up to the road, as well as tall crops (corn in Missouri). Also where a woody creek crosses the road. Slow down a tad and watch for those eyes. One trick to spot deer during the daylight hours in the woods is to look for something horizontal. Most lines in woods are verticle. A short horizontal line may be the first thing you can see on a deer. Helps in driving and hunting.
And by all means, don't swerve to miss an animal. Rolling over in a ditch or hitting a tree is many times worse that any critter. Best to hit it strait on and take your chances. Wear that seat belt!


LH    Posted 12-12-2003 at 10:37:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi, Ive hit 3 deer in my life and never done any real damage to my vehicles in the process except maybe a busted headlight (I drive older sturdy vehicles)But being a cop I saw lots of the newer vehicles nearly totalled by hitting dear, etc. The worst ones are big livestock like cows and horses they are like hitting a brick wall at 55 mph.


Les    Posted 12-12-2003 at 09:31:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sort of like the swamp donkeys we have up here. Hundreds of collisions every year. And they are a lot bigger and much harder to see than deer. Some day, it might be me. Oh well.


~Lenore    Posted 12-12-2003 at 09:03:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I make a conscious effort not to worry.

I have a little cross stitch framed that says:

"Worry is like a fast get away on a rocking horse"

It also has a little cross stitched rocking horse on it.

I live in a little country town,
but did not realize how country til last week.
I was right in town, three blocks from home on a small dark street.
I looked just in time to see a large doe right in front of me,
stopped dead still by my headlights and a fawn in the ditch behind her.
If I had not been alert and going on 30 MPH.
I would have hit her/them.


One of my best friends did hit a black cow on the highwat at night/early morning about 4AM.
It totaled her van and bruised her up .
She was up and telling me about it the same day.


Cindi    Posted 12-12-2003 at 11:10:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Worry is like a fast get away on a rocking horse"

This cracked me up. Thanks Lenore.


John    Posted 12-12-2003 at 08:31:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
My family often drives up to our cabin in the U.P. of Michigan at night. after having too many close encounters with dear i deacided to do something about it. I constructed a light bar that attaches to the roof rack of our Caravan. it has 4 55 watt lights on it. two point forward and the side ones point towards the ditches. the light bar is very easy to remove after the trip. there are two switches inside the van. 1 for the forward lights and one for the side lights.

the ditch lights have helped me spot many deer that i would have otherwise not seen until it was too late.

I always turn the lights off at the first sign of an oncoming car or when approaching a car from behind. The lights are illegal, but i figure my family's safety is more important than a traffic ticket.


Ya know...    Posted 12-12-2003 at 08:01:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I hear we are in for a 'Near Earth Incident' right around Christmas...Some are saying it is the end of the world...Pretty sure that the Beech Bark Beetle is wreeking havoc in the upper midwest and New England...And last I heard the Flu was going around too...

Salmoneye, Who Thinks He'll Worry About Other Things This Week


Salmoneye, what did I....    Posted 12-12-2003 at 11:09:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
....do to tick you off?

Cindi (who worries about many...many...many...things)


lol...    Posted 12-12-2003 at 11:57:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am most certainly not ticked...

I just find it interesting some of the things that upset you...You appear to get hung up on some things till they worry you to the point of obsessive fright...I was just trying to help by adding a couple more things for you to think about ;-)

"In many more relaxed civilizations on the Outer Eastern Rim of the Galaxy, the Guide has already supplanted the great Encyclopaedia Galactica as a standard repository of all knowledge and wisdom, for though it has many ommisions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least widly inaccurate, it scores over the older, more pedestrian work in two important respects. Firstly it is slightly cheaper, and secondly it has the words DON'T PANIC inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover."...Douglas Adams...'The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy'

Rule #1 of Life...DON'T PANIC...Plenty of time for that after the bleeding stops...

Salmoneye,


Red Dave    Posted 12-12-2003 at 07:53:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know what you mean about the deer, cattle & other critters, but I never had to worry about alligators!

I hit a deer with my Jeep once, a spike buck, killed the deer and damaged the Jeep, but I wasn't hurt. Lots of deer hit around here and people do get injured and killed. Couple weeks ago 3 people were killed when they hit a deer on I 83 in York Co, crossed the median and hit a semi head on. I also personally know (knew) 2 guys who hit deer while riding motorcycles. One was injured, one was killed by it.

I have not seen any reliable research which shows that those whistle type deer repellers do any good, but I do have a set on my van, just in case.
The only thing I can suggest, that could be considered reliable is don't overdrive your headlights beam. It seems to me that only deer, or maybe a horse would be moving fast enough to surprise you at moderate driving speeds. That ain't 100%, but it will improve your odds.


Kat in NJ    Posted 12-12-2003 at 07:28:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The worst animal/car accident I knew of happened in broad daylight. The son of someone I used to work with was killed when a loose horse ran out in front of his car. Broadsided the horse and threw it up on the windshield; horse went right through the glass and landed on top of him driving.

As for deer, New Jersey is overpopulated with them and, of course, between the gun laws and overdevelopment, you can't get a decent hunt to thin them out. I agree that you need to go slow at night, be wary and it doesn't hurt to put a deer whistle on the front of the car.

But you still never know...a friend of mine and her husband were driving at night in an area where its a long, windy, country road with a steep embankment to one side. A big whitetail buck came right off the top of the embankment and dropped down onto the hood of their pickup truck, went through the glass and sent both of them to the hospital. She was okay; her husband had some neck problems that took awhile to square away and that he still has some difficulties with.

It pays to be cautious, but somethings you just can't possibly predict. But you can't stay home all the time just because something might happen. Stay alert and keep the high beams on whenever possible!

Kat in NJ


kraig WY    Posted 12-12-2003 at 07:10:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
I kind of know what you mean. I drive a lot through the Black Hills at night. Night before last I came upon a heard of elk, (in excess of 100) taking their own sweet time crossing the road. Last summer, before my wife got home her fathar gave her a totally restored '63 Ply. I was gonna drive it to Spearfish SD one night but was two lazy to take it to town to top off the tanks so I took my truck. Coming home I wacked a deer about 65 mph. Only screwed up the bumper of the truck. It would have totaled her car. Went home and put her car in the garage. She would have killed me if I wrecked the car before she even saw it. Lots of deer and elk around (not too many gaters). Its the ones you don't see that get you while you are watch for the ones you see.


TB    Posted 12-12-2003 at 06:20:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi... Every day you, we Take a chances Some are big some are small. If I was to Spend my time worring about what couldbe I would never leave the house. Here the odds are that I will hit anouther Deer. The thing is to hit if you have to slow down if you can but don't swerve When you swerve to miss and louse controll is when the most (worst) injuries accore. The truck is expendible the deer is expendible. You arnt. Now hitting a cow I have herd of but not as often as wild animals. So all I can say is keep controll. Later


Okie-Dokie    Posted 12-12-2003 at 06:16:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Slow down at night. Use your high beams when possible. Pay attention to things in your periferial vision. Mostly just give yourself a little extra time and drive about 5 mph less than the posted speed limit.


Doc    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:31:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just drive cautiously at night and keep your wits and periferral (sp) vision tuned.

Then stop worrying about it and start worrying about what your going to do with the money when you hit the Florida Lottery.


Cindi    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:36:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think you have to go and buy those little ticket thingies before you qualify to win and I never can think to buy any. Lol!


RichZ    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:23:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yep, Cindi, I worry about the same types of things (except I never worry about alligators). One thing you can do that MAY help somewhat is to mount those deer whistles on your front bumper. Around here, most people drive a lot slower at night because of all the deer we have. You can always tell the tourists at night, zipping around in their sportscars. They wouldn't stand a chance if they hit a deer, and isn't it amazing, that most of the cars that hit deer around here are driven by tourists. DUH!!!

I always slow down and even stop even if I see one deer cross the road, because where there's one, there's usually a herd. Last fall, a herd crossed the road, right past our farm, and I stopped my van and waited. Suddenly I saw the brush move, and knew another was coming, so I didn't move. A buck popped out of the brush, and ran right into the side of my van, even though I wasn't moving. He was stunned, then got up and ran into it again, finally he wised up and ran around it. I got two dents in the side of my van, for my trouble. But, we consider our vehicles farm vehicles, so I really don't care if they get dented. I buy them new, and run them into the ground. Got rid of my last van when it had 310,000 miles on it, and it was still running great. Gotta love GMC.


Cindi    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:38:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich, I'm the same way. Don't even bother to try and protect a farm vehicle. It always ends in hurt feelings.

Cleats...95% huh, well that makes me feel better.


Cleats    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:13:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Have a real deer problem here, where we live in Michigan, have a person killed about every 2 or 3 years locally. Moterclyles are the worst thing to be on when hitting a deer.
However, easily over 95% of the accidents end without injury to humans.
We run the loudest tires we can find, seems to help. The biggest trick is to watch for anything glowing at night, that is when they move the most. Their eyes reflect light a long way off. Sometimes they look like fireflys but don't count on it. Always figure there is another one or two after seeing one cross in front of you. Never believe they will do the logical thing, they seem to get confused by vehicles and will sometimes come back across the road after getting safely across. And it goes without saying, keep your speed down and your eyes open


Lazy Al    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:53:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Cleats.
My grand dad was born in Mayville not far from you . Could you send me an email I have a question or two for ya . I not having any luck
finding any decendents down his cousins line . you might have heard of the family . I have a
stencil for a mail box that one of them might want I would send it to them if I could locate one and they wanted it .
Thanks in advance
Al


cleats    Posted 12-12-2003 at 10:39:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry, I don't know a soul from Mayville. Nice area though.
This is not my computer, it belongs to the a friend that I work part time for. I kind of watch over things when he is on the road. I don't think he would like me putting his email address out over the internet.


Patria    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:13:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey Cindi, good to see you!!

Been thinking about you, are you sleeping well?
Eating good? I wouldn't say I'm worried about you, I think you are a strong willed woman, but take care of yourself, pamper yourself, you know?

Anyway, just drive carefully, and no 'daydreaming' while at it, eh?

Patria


Cindi    Posted 12-12-2003 at 05:35:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Patria. Eating better and sleeping better than most in my position. One plus is that I get two days off IN A ROW which really helps... I get two good nights of sleep, but my last night of work I am a bear to be around. (grin)


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