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Dale    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:30:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good luck to all of you with mad cow. At least when we had it, we had a national tagging system in place so that we could track down all her calves and herdmates and keep consumer confidence up. You have nothing even close to our system, and with your media being even more sensationalist than ours, your consumers are going to have a hard time with this.

Ron,Ar    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:52:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just came from the supermarket, they were changing beef prices already, going up, not much but all beef, not pork. I call it price fixing. Good time to switch to turkey and fish.

Dave Munson    Posted 12-23-2003 at 20:33:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
I only have a quarter in my freezer. I would expect the price of beef paid to the farmer to drop and drop quick. I can say that I met the cow and know what the cow was fed. Nice clean farm.

On the other hand normal super market shoppers are woefully dangerously ignorant.

The United States exports about 10 percent of its beef, and the loss of any foreign markets would create a glut in U.S. meat supplies. I think U.S. beef exports to Japan alone totaled about $842 million in last year.

Prices should CRASH down, not go up.

Willy-N    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:36:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
They just said Japan and Korea won't import any US Beef now it allready has started! Only good thing is the little guys will be able to sell Butcher Cows easier now but the bigger processing outfits are going to have a hard time convincing the public again it is OK. We have freinds in England and that was a mess over there with the Hoof and Mouth problem. Seems like farmers have one problem after another. Mark H.

cow lady    Posted 12-24-2003 at 11:39:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
The BSE ordeal sends chills down my spine.

If it gives anybody any comfort...We as producers have had safe guards in place for several years. One is that we keep careful records of our feed and are held responsible for what we feed our cattle. NO animal by-products are to be in cattle feed! I understand that the effected dairy was buying feed from an OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE feed mill. We also have trace-back procedures in place. But not nearly extensive as Canada (we need to take a lesson from them!)

I guess what really gets me, is the media depiction of the "downed" cow. They play the tape over and over without telling us that the cow was paralyzed due to calving problems (it does happen)NOT because she showed signs of illness. Sick animals are NOT to go into the food chain. We are lucky the safeguards caught her.

This will have a severe impact across the board. (Grain farmers need to hold onto their hat.)

Now that we are all in the same boat, I truly hope we can be open to knowledge and experience, and learn from each other (just like we did in Kindergarten!)as Americans, Canadians, & Europeans. And I hope the Aussies don't rub it in too hard, as this situation puts them in the drivers seat.

For all of you lucky enough to have a nice crown roast saved in your freezer...Enjoy, and pray for us trying to feed the nation.

p.s. Sorry 'bout the soap box...Peace to all.

toolman    Posted 12-24-2003 at 11:54:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
i wish you well , i have seen what this can do , our cattle industry here in canada is in bad shape and this happened way back in may, some of these countries including the states may take as long as 7 years to completely reopen the borders, no farmer / rancher will last 7 years, and your right it has a huge trickle down effect, grain farmers aren,t the only one, trucking ,feed lots, butchers the lists is endless and yes the consumer the people who need to eat.

Dale    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:44:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah Japan and Korea closed the border almost as fast to you as you did to us. Better book your freezer beef now, the small slaughterhouses here are booked 3-5 months ahead now and they've had to double their prices because rendering costs jumped so much. Also, the consumers are going to expect a BIG reduction in freezer beef prices.

toolman    Posted 12-23-2003 at 20:04:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
dale you must be canadian, i am too have you heard anything about our government closing the borders to american beef?

Dale    Posted 12-24-2003 at 05:46:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Toolman they're going to wait for the results to come back from England, at least 48 hours. Doesn't matter much anyway, nobody has been shipping anything of consequence north since late May and even now I doubt that our prices will be very attractive to them.

toolman    Posted 12-24-2003 at 08:02:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
thanks dale , yes i was watching the news after i came home last night and seen that, i would hope our government would act based on the science rather than kneejerk reactions based on policital reasons, lots of good people got hurt up here and are still being hurt , i would hate to see that happen to anyone else, the american farmer or the canadian farmer, they,re both just trying to feed their families, but id worry about consumer confidence in the states, here we rallied around our producers which i thought was good, i still buy beef and belive our food is as safe as any.

Willy-N    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:49:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well I have 2 cows in mine and several out in the pasture for next year that is not a problem for us. I do feel for the other guy tho. No cut in our prices in fact they go up next year and a couple are sold allready. Mark H.

Dale    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:54:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
You're going to have to take a cut now, everybody and their dog is going to be selling freezer beef and happy to take whatever they can get for it.

Willy-N    Posted 12-23-2003 at 18:59:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Custom meat for the people we know seems to allways sell. We don't have that many head in the herd that are for Meat. Mark H.

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