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Red Cross Crooks?
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Bob    Posted 11-09-2001 at 10:25:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Today's Column

It’s time for the American Red Cross to wake up and smell the coffee.

Its credibility and its future are on the line. Either it sends all the money to the survivors of the victims of the September 11 atrocities, or it loses the trust of the American people.


What’s going on?

Well, in one of the great outpourings of generosity in American history, more than a billion dollars were donated in the wake of terrible terrorist attacks. About half those dollars ended up in the coffers of the American Red Cross.

And the problem is, they’re staying there. At least 200 million of them are. Two hundred million donated dollars siphoned off by the Red Cross for its own use.

Which is one of the biggest cases of sticky fingers you’re ever going to see.

And officials of the American Red Cross aren’t ashamed of it. Rather, they’re proud of it, defending it as a service they are offering the country. Essentially, they’ve stolen our money and now they want us to thank them for it.

Instead of sending the money to survivors of New York and Washington and Pennsylvania, the American Red Cross is keeping a Fort Knox-sized cut of the loot to fund future programs. The organization says it needs to, in case of future terrorist attacks.

Which is all well and good.

Except for the fraud.

And that’s what it is when money is collected under false pretenses. And every dollar that doesn’t go to directly relieve the victims of September 11 is a dollar fraudulently collected.

By the American Red Cross.

Which is about as serious an indictment as you can make against a charity. Because skimming by any other name is still skimming.

And the fact the American Red Cross is misappropriating this money in the name of doing good works is irrelevant.

And arrogant and typical.

But it is still wrong.

And the American public is onto them.

Those dollars were donated for one reason: To benefit the families of people killed on September 11. America saw the suffering and wanted to help.

The sentiment of all those donors was expressed last night by the president of the United States when he said more than a billion dollars had been collected to be sent “to the victims’ families.”

And if that’s where the president said the money was supposed to go, I’d suggest that the American Red Cross make sure that it gets there.

And this weekend it will have the chance.

Maybe it’s last chance.

Because if the American Red Cross fails in its duty to get donations where they were intended to go, then maybe the American people should abandon it.

Maybe they should cut it and its programs out of their lives. Maybe they should cut it and its programs out of their budgets.

And maybe the American Red Cross needs to drink deeply from the cup of humility. Maybe it needs to look to its roots as a service organization built upon human service and good deeds. Clara Barton tended the wounded, but the organization she founded is now best known for collecting money – from government contracts and from charitable contributions.

And it can start by getting this money where it belongs. Every dollar of it. It can start by opening its coffers and its books and proving that it has not kept one dollar of this money for itself, its programs or for any sort of purported future use.

And if it fails to, the law must wade in.

Either the Congress, or the Justice Department.

And there must be accountability. And if that includes civil or criminal legal action, so be it.

If the American Red Cross must be saved from itself, so be it.

Because the most valuable commodity the American Red Cross has or offers is trust, and its actions since September 11 have jeopardized that trust. The American Red Cross must move immediately to save its good name, and that will only happen by a reversal of its decision to keep what George W. Bush has called “the victims’ families” money.

Here’s hoping the American Red Cross does the right thing.


Franz    Posted 11-09-2001 at 23:11:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Now, now, lets be nice about them bullsnotting folks over at the Red Crook. I mean they do have expenses, and they had to dump 10,000 pints of blood down the drain just a week ago, because even though they knew blood can only be stored for 42 days, they overcollected because unaware folks got generous after 9/11. It has to cost a lot to dump that much blood, even after you skim off all the platelets and other components for SALE.

Jim    Posted 11-09-2001 at 19:57:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
They were already charging the Doughboys in WWI - remember my Grandfather telling me his best friend on the farm across the street was sent to France, he got off the boat and the Red Cross was there with coffee and donuts - they could not enter the tent unless they had the required "donation". My Grampa's best friend told him if he heard of him donating to the Red Cross dont bother ever stepping foot on his land again. Jim

Anna    Posted 11-09-2001 at 19:37:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Our family has not given to the Red Cross after my uncle was in WWII. They were traveling by train through England and got off to get a cup of coffee at one stop. The Red Cross made them buy their cup of coffee using a book of 12 stamps they had to buy first($.10 for each stamp) that was only good in England. Those soilders never forgot of forgave the Red Cross.


Lazyhorse    Posted 11-09-2001 at 18:26:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Most folks don't realize that whe the Red Cross gets involved with disaster relief, assisting fire victims, etc. that those folks who recieve assistance actually get billed for those supposedly free acts of assistance. I know one guy whose mother died while he was in the service in Germany. Red Cross made the arrangements for his trip home, and paid for the trip, and expenses. He later recieved a bill with an outlined payment plan option which included interest on the expenses they had paid. If all these cases are like this, then where else does the donated money go except to administrative fees and into the pockets of those administrators.

Snowdancer    Posted 11-09-2001 at 18:58:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My father was in India during WWII. I still remember him telling how the Red Cross charged the guys for cigarettes & toiletries when they visited the servicemen. This was in 1942 - 1944 !!
Till the day he died in 1982, he refused to give money to them, instead he gave to the Salvation Army who also were overseas & gave the servicemen the items with no mention of payment.
We did not donate to the Red Cross during the 9/11 incident, there were other organizations such as the search dog teams & fire/emt teams across the country who could use the money that they had paid out to send teams to NYC. Many came from small communities without major capital resources.

Rudy2    Posted 11-12-2001 at 18:16:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My father also served in India and told my mother and myself the same the Red Cross was supposed to ONLY distribute cigarettes etc that were ALREADY BOUGHT and paid for in the US to the men stationed over there. The Red Cross turned right around and refused to hand them over without payment AGAIN from the GI's there. My dad was very adamant about NEVER giving to the Red Cross and he too also supported the Salvation Army which treated everyone..and still does..very well with NO hidden costs etc attached, as opposed to the Red Cross. I will NEVER support the Red Cross, but always give to the Salvation Army. In fact, years ago I was in a VERY desparate financial situation in the middle of a very cold and snowy winter with small children. The Salvation Army actually filled my propane tank for me so we could have heat for our family that year. I have never forgotten that. God Bless our servicemen and servicewomen and the Salvation Army for all their caring and help!

Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-09-2001 at 11:31:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Here's more. Of the big three collecting, the Red cross is the most legitimate, and has donated much more than the United Way, and the other one. They definately are skimming, and a little should, to pay for their expenses to organize such a huge effort, but the are taking way to much. Also think though, not all the money they have should go to the Sept 11th victims. How about these Anthrax victims, are they not victims of terrorism. The Red Cross is not a September 11th organization. Remember the red Cross has many other underfunded programs helping Americans that this money is going to also. If you want donations to go solely & strictly & legitimately for the 11th, donate to your local charities. Ex. The local fire dept was standing at intersections holding boots out to donate. Many businesses are collecting and matching dollar for dollar. Many radio stations are having, or know about small time fundraisers that can help. Me personally, I have been donating at the fire men/woman at intersections, Kmart, Home Depot, & Selectcare. Outside of the fire men/woman the companies offered dollar to dollar contributions. Also think the gov't has already said each survivor will receive a million dollars for loved ones. this is above and beyond what they will receive from donations. Time must be taken to disburse funds accordingly. I am sad to see what happened, but how do you determine if someone gets more than another. Ex, one lady has already received 40,000 and is complaining she has not received enough yet. She also had her mortgage restructure to help, and many other things. So do the organizations give her 3 million because that is what her husband made, and someone else only 150k because they made a lesser amount. These organizations are not there to reestablish a previous style of life, that's what life ins is for. whenever anyone dies it is bad, but that is why we pay life ins. What about those policies.I think the money will get there, but things need to be sorted, to make sure it benefits everyone. They are still asking for money while everything is still fresh. Pretty soon the money will stop pouring in, then I think you will see it embursed accordingly.

Hogman    Posted 11-09-2001 at 18:07:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Red cross lost whatever degree of credibility it had over a half century ago !!!!!

It should be no surprise to anyone that They would skim off the cream for Their own use and not the good of those in need.

Take a look at Their payroll,poor lidy Dole had to struggle along on some 100 G's a year as their fearless leader.

I'll stop afore My BP gets too high.

Mabe Slickum Bill could get on with em, He'd fit right in!!!!!!!!!

mike    Posted 11-09-2001 at 18:27:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
What do you mean 100 G'S a year,it's almost
450,000 per year.

Hogman Thank You Sir    Posted 11-10-2001 at 04:33:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
I stand corrected

Alvin-Va    Posted 11-10-2001 at 19:02:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hogman,not sure you were not correct.I was thinking I had read that Liddy made 100 K a year when she was head honcho and the figure had been increased since then.I can't find my source of info.for this.Can anyone post the figures,with a source?

Burrhead    Posted 11-12-2001 at 18:36:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Alvin I was snooping around Snootie's Red Cross info til the smell got so bad I could'nt hang in there.

She started out at $200,000 per, with a speakers fee for her appearances that made her total around $1.6M per.

run liddy dole through the public info search at google and it appears Liddy and Viagra Man are just as crooked as Bush/Dick.

Hogman...velly intalesting    Posted 11-12-2001 at 18:44:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now how about good ole Bob and ADM?????

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