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Put the School Bus in the ditch today!
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Willy-N    Posted 01-06-2004 at 16:20:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Got a suprise going to get the kids today on the biggest hill. Bus grabed a small drift and slid sidways into the deep snow. Had to back down the hill and try again. I just put the chains on for rest of the winter till I see the roads again. This hill takes a while to build up the ice on it and now it is there. Mark H.


Dieselrider    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:18:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Glad your ok.
When we lived in Curwensville,Pa. One winter morning the bus was stopped picking up our three boys, when a lady from up the road came flying down the hill, slid on the ice and rearended the bus. Our middle son was on the steps of the bus just inside the door. He was bounced around a little but, everyone was ok on hte bus. One of the boys in the van she was driving was thrown forward and really took a bad shot to the head. They thought he would really have trouble, but he turned out ok. I still get shook up thinking what could have happened there. God really looks out for us sometimes.


Willy-N    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:40:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have had many close calls with others going to fast and allmost hitting me and they are my neibors and know when I am on the road? Being a 1 1/2 lane primintive road it can get hairy sometimes. Mark H.


Linda in UT    Posted 01-07-2004 at 01:14:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Glad everyone was ok with their mishaps.

When I was driving schoolbus in MT, a fellow ran my red lights when I was stopped to let a couple of kids off at a farm. Totally out in the boonies on a dirt road. I saw him flying up behind me as I stopped and only popped the door to turn on the reds, but didn't open the door so the kids could get off. Not exactly legal, but far safer, under the circumstances. I got his plate and called it in to the state troopers.

The case went to court in the city and the fellow showed up to give his side of the story, while I told my side. He claimed the road was busy and there were vehicles coming up behind him, so he had to pass the stopped schoolbus to keep from being rear ended.

The judge listened very patiently then, before he found the fellow guilty the judge leaned forward in his chair, looked the defendant in the eye, and told him he was a liar. The judge went on to explain he grew up on that very narrow farm road and still owned property there. He knew the road was to that day seldom traveled and that the fellow was lying through his teeth. He found the defendant guilty and gave him the maximum fine.


Willy-N    Posted 01-07-2004 at 06:40:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I belive the fine here is 295.00 for blowing by a Bus with the red lights on. I have been lucky so far. My route is all dirt roads in the Boonies and like it that way less traffic to deal with even though the roads are bad in the winter because sometimes the plow does not go thru befor I do. Mark H.


Linda in UT    Posted 01-07-2004 at 09:33:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Our routes were all dirt, too, except for a stretch on a two lane highway. I only drove that route once. Several kids from one family rode that bus and at the end of the route their parents would be waiting with a truck to take them the final 20 miles back into the hills to the ranch.

On other routes some kids would drive themselves several miles out the ranch road to the bus stop. They couldn't see over the dash without the benefit of several pillows and the help of their younger siblings, who were glad to tell the "driver" where to go.

The State put on an advanced driver training course at an old military base about once a year. They only allowed you to attend once, as it was a blast to go through the course, especially the skid pan. ;-) I managed to get into the course twice - once as a school bus driver and again a few years later as an ambulance driver.

I think the fine was about the same in MT for blowing past a bus's red lights. I also think about $1000 should be added to it. It's a pretty scary feeling to watch someone go past the lights.


toolman    Posted 01-07-2004 at 10:08:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
out where i live , we had a TOURIST that blows by the school bus quite often, despite repeated calls to the cops, it kept happening, well one day the TOURISTS called the cops seems some of the locals who had kids riding the bus and a couple of their friends decided to take their baseball bats and play a game of ball aroung the guys car, they got a little to close to the car and when he came out to complain it turned into a boxing match, he didn,t enjoy it and called the cops who were too busy to attend,oh and he doesn,t live here anymore, sold out he did.


KellyGa    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:12:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I tell you what, I don't see how y'all drive in that mess! When I was younger, I used to deliver pizzas, and of course we would be open, even if it was icy and snowing. Apparently pizza delivery was the only thing open. Schools would be closed, peoples power would be out, and they would order pizza. Real nice tips, if you made it there! Around here, if there is even a slim chance of ice on the roads, the schools close. Of course, y'all all knew that about us here in the south. As far as I can tell, we really can't drive in the white stuff. Good time to stay home and hibernate, or play in the snow! It never lasts anyway, it always warms up and is gone by the third day or so.


Ron,Ar    Posted 01-06-2004 at 16:49:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ya did good there. One of ours got rearended today by a Ford LTD. Not much damage to the bus but the car is totaled, no injuries tho.


Willy-N 7 years    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:37:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
7 years I have only slid over to the side twice both on hills but have got going under my own power. Never have hurt a bus yet and I drive on the worst road. Knock on wood because several of the other bus drivers have wrecked and ditched them bad enought to need a wrecker to get them out. Mark H.


TO35    Posted 01-06-2004 at 16:57:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron...Geeze our drivers must drink the same water....we had one pull in front of a ranger pickup...folded the bus back bumper under the bus at the corner
ranger totaled.....driver was headed for manditory drug test when I clocked out....

Glad yours worked out Willyn....


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deadcarp    Posted 01-06-2004 at 16:32:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
bet your circulation improved rather quickly didn't it? that's an awful feeling when things just get loose and you didn't plan on it - all you can do then is try to think ahead, avoid big mistakes and keep it upright. be careful out there everybody :)



Willy-N    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:45:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
I did cuss! But no kids on the bus to hear me. Pulling that long hill the tires just started spining about 3/4 the way up it in the curve then it went over a foot into the side snow. I let off and kept it straite and on my side. Hard part was backing back down it! You can't use the brakes if you want to steer. Mark H.


toolman    Posted 01-06-2004 at 16:43:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
at a contract job one at a mine , boss volunteered me to walk a d 9 up a a road,first time on a cat for me , well i got half way up, keeping one set of tracks in the ditch in the snow, when i had to cross the road to get to the other ditch,soon as i left the ditch she took off on me ,threw me back couldn,t reach the blade control, went round an round for a bit pushing this pulling that finally dropped the blade got it stopped , lookedup boss and foreman we,re laughing their fool heads off on the mountain side,said i did good , at least i kept it on the road, who would have thought that cat tracks aren,t all that good on icy hills haha,always good to get the blood pumpin isn,t it .lol


Taylor Lambert    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:41:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark I almost did the same in a 10 wheeler Mack today iam trying for my CDL's and a friend loaned me a truck to get refreshed in. Some Dumb A$$ on a four wheeler hopped the road in front of me. The ditch was shllow and narrow so I had a time getting it out never stopped moving though.
Toolman I had an Ice blunder here we had a 2 inch snow and we went to the Landfill Dad ran to get the scraper and feed our ducks there. We got to the top of the hill in dads 79 ford van with no power steering or brakes. We got to the top of the steepest hill breaking through the ice till we got to the top where it had melted and rethawed. We slid so fat down it we had 2 choices the pond or the drop off on the other side of the levee. We hit the ditch and got hung so dad and I took the D5 and came to get the van. We slide in several places with it. A pddlewheel scraper is fun in a 13 acre icy parking lot in 5th gear lol.
I like Snow but in 94 we got a big Ice storm and stayed without power 2 weeks no water all the good stuff just like camping. Yo ucan bet after that the power company got 2 new tractors with Brown Treecutters and ROW sprayers.


toolman    Posted 01-06-2004 at 18:28:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
taylor have you ever run those 35 ton cat haul trucks, they are fun get them going on the ice and all you can do is sit there and watch out your mirrors as your going in circles and try and aim it backwards at something soft lol, but at least with them you can power brake(give it power with the hand throttle while you brake to keep the wheels from locking up) but on them 250 ton haulpaks when they start you just hang on and hope for the best haha.


Taylor Lambert    Posted 01-06-2004 at 19:00:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Never been on ice in a rigid haul truck did get into some in a concrete drainage ditch in an articulated Moxy. My back end ung a dry patch and dumped the bed over. Id love to drive a Haulpack or other mine truck once or twice.


Willy-N    Posted 01-06-2004 at 17:52:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Those Duals like to slip and with no 4 Wheel Drive that is another problem. It is tricky to drive with Duals on ice when empty on hills or even flat, you drive by the seat of your pants and feel of the road. Mark H.


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