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Should we be allowed to have concealed Weapons
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Hunter Ohio    Posted 01-10-2004 at 10:35:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Please VOTE YES
Its Our right to protect ourselfs


LH    Posted 01-10-2004 at 22:24:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not only yes, but he11 yes. Until 2 months ago I was an Indiana resident my entire life, and had a concealed carry permit since I was old enough to get one. Now being a new resident in New York not only can I not carry, I cannot even own a handgun until ive been a resident for 3 years or so I have been told by the authorities. There are so many conflicting laws on concealed carry in the various states that it becomes a very confusing issue. My wish is to see a national concealed carry law, that would eliminate all the confusion and corruption in various states issuing permits to some and denying to others


Nope...    Posted 01-11-2004 at 02:40:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
You want to take yet another right of 'self-determination' away from the states?

I don't think so...

Salmoneye


LH    Posted 01-11-2004 at 16:09:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
In this case yes. I think the NRA is right in promoting a national concealed carry law


RN    Posted 01-10-2004 at 17:15:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ohio concealed carry- conflicting laws- curent/previous statute said not legal to carry concealed but court defense of self defense/neccesity allowed. Prosecuters routinely charged and plea bargained most cases to lesser terms but defendant had to plead guilty. About 3 years back some defendants refused to plead down and went to trial - they won case, prosecuters appealled to Ohio appeals court-lost again. This established case law precedant that got a lot of prosecuters, politicians nervous. Judges told them to clarify the law- concealed carry procedures/statute noted as a good legal way to do it, otherwise a lot of cases would be going to trial and prosecuters and police might be in trouble. Wisconsin has similar legal problem- cases have gone to appeals court and now precedant exists for home and business concealed carry without any training requirements. Vehicle carry case was not heard-legal technicality, Judges comment is legislative act would be preferred to courts/judges having to hear cases and dismissing even the ones with some merit. RN


Richard Easton    Posted 01-10-2004 at 14:47:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
YES !! UNLESS you live in the Republic of Kalifornia. Anyone with real common sense would move from California to the real world and not vote for the liberal Democrats.


Jim in Minn    Posted 01-10-2004 at 16:06:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'll drink to that!


rhudson    Posted 01-10-2004 at 13:04:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
we have had concealed carry in virginia for some time. with no problems. a bad guy would not go through the paperwork, classes, and fee process to do it legaly. the bad guys are going to carry whether your state has laws or not. i'm thinking it tends to put everyone on even ground. i think you should only carry if something about your job or lifestyle warrents you to. my wife and i both have paperwork, neither of us carry now.


Ennis    Posted 01-10-2004 at 12:04:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
YES! But not with a felony conviction on record

Then put into effect a mandatory sentence for using a firearm in a crime. Punish the criminal not me


TO35    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:40:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
..... "The Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms" period...

I am with you on this one vote yes...
best wishes
TO


Salmoneye    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:28:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I wish I could help...

VT has no gun laws other than the ones imposed by the feds...

Concealed carry has been challenged here once...The City of Rutland passed an ordinance outlawing concealed carry...A Man named Rosenthal was 'convicted' under the ordinance and appealed all the way to the Vermont Supreme Court...Conviction was overturned and the ordinance ruled 'unconstitutional' according to The Vermont State Constitution...This was in 1903 by the way...

I hope you get the 'right' to carry back soon...



Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:36:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Salmoneye, you should change your handle to Encyclopedia Brittanica!! You're a wealth of knowledge, just like Wile E. Coyote....Super Genius! You must be older than the hills...1903? LOL!!

Good day


LOL    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:53:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope...

I just seem to have a spongey brain...Sops up all the messes I encounter...

This was an easy one though, as I have had this 'discussion' before and had looked it up years ago (before the internet was the thing)...Back then, I actually had access to a couple of law libraries...It took me a while to find in real books back then, but I knew that I had heard of the case at one point...I was actually in a 'discussion' with a newly graduated police officer from a different state that swore there had to be a law against carrying a gun here...

He lost ;-)

Salmoneye, Who Will Only Be 41 This Year...



Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-10-2004 at 10:54:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I conceal one now, it is becoming law in Ohio soon, that way they can get some $$ out of me for what I've been doing for years!
Then when things go sour, they can holler, "Big Bad Gun" again and take 'em all!!
Just like they did with "assault" weapons, give them to everybody then take them away because they are so bad, then in the fine print under Brady's definition of:
"Assault Weapon": any firearm that holds more than one cartridge; a firearm that can be reloaded without stopping to reload.
This means your pump shotgun, etc., too!! They don't let the public know about the fine print. It would ruin the effectiveness of the word "assault". People think of assault weapon as a machine gun.
That leaves you with your muzzleloader or "single shot pea shooter" in which are not very effective when the National Guard comes knockin' at your door because you had your kid to close to a crocodile. Waco,TX


Jim in Minn    Posted 01-10-2004 at 10:50:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Depends on whose concealing them.


Dieselrider    Posted 01-10-2004 at 16:35:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree that there are those who should not have one, let alone the right to carry one. However I would like to have that right myself because those that should not are not likely to care weather they are allowed or not. In a bad situation I would like to think I have at least one other option than to out run a speeding bullet. I've been Batman before but, never Superman.


Cindi    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:41:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with Jim. Not everybody has the right mindset to walk around with a deadly weapon within easy reach.


ret    Posted 01-10-2004 at 12:12:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey, I agree completely with you Cindi. In Va. you have to take a gun course and be free of any felonys. Then, they have to issue one to you. But try to get one in Ca, almost impossible
REt


Cindi    Posted 01-10-2004 at 12:31:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
ret, I don't know what the law is here but I will be finding out soon. I want to take a trip up north this summer and I don't want to go without my pistol in the glove box. I don't know if that qualifies as concealed but I suspect it might. So whatever it takes I want to be able to do that.


Kevin    Posted 01-14-2004 at 17:40:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I use to have a CT pistol permit and traveled to my camp in Vermont. I could leave the state w/ my pistol in a locked case till I got to VT. As a precaution anyway, I always removed the cylinder of my single action revolver, and kept it separate from the pistol. I always feared getting stopped passing through Mass. where gun laws are tougher.I also removed the bolt of my rifle, and removed the barrel of my shotgun. None of these UNITED STATES are UNITED w/ their separate gun laws. I did live in Vermont for 6 years, recently, and everyone had a firearm, Even tow truck drivers had gun racks in their trucks. Can't show a firearm in a truck here in Ct. anymore w/o being suspect. Kevin


TnDave    Posted 01-10-2004 at 15:12:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know you'll be ok in GA. They consider your vehicle an extension or your home. I'm not sure abt Tn. I have a permit, so I've never checked. I know if you have a Fla. permit it will be recognized by several states. NRA has a page with a list of state laws and which stated recognize permits from other states, but I can't find it right now...I know it use to be there...


Cosmo    Posted 01-10-2004 at 14:09:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi, several states have reciprocity (sp). If you are legal in your home state they will recognize your concealed carry permit if you have one. I think the NRA website can give the laws of the various states. New York and some others of that ilk will lock you up if you even know someone who used to have a gun.


Jon in WI    Posted 01-10-2004 at 14:09:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Forget the glove compartment. That's the first place a break-in or officer will look, especially if in an accident. Get a small bottle or can of mase.


Red Dave    Posted 01-10-2004 at 13:29:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just be careful about it. Don't let anybody know you have it. Laws vary from state to state. Even some of the cities have their own regulations. Some places it's legal, some it's not.


Cindi    Posted 01-10-2004 at 19:01:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I plan to keep it in the glove box at all times unless it's needed, and take it into the motel rooms at night. No point having it if it's locked in the car and I'm locked in a motel. Lol!


Kevin    Posted 01-14-2004 at 17:20:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have just recently heard of a state that is going to require a gun owner, to obtain liability insurance on all their firearms. I forgot which state it was.This is something I've never heard of before? Has anyone heard of this upcoming law that someone wants to pass,or is this just RUMOR. Kevin.


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