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What's your true cost of electricity?
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digger4819    Posted 01-10-2004 at 10:56:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
A while ago you had a message to do with converters and off line electricity. Well I sat down and figured mine out and it amounts to 18 cents a kilo. This includes a facility charge, and state and local tax. Basiclly killowatts and the price paid to the electric co at the bottom of the bill.
Also you discussed off line elecetricity. Mine amounted to $16.69 for the inverter (400 watts).
Also two marine batteries for $70.00 apiece,for a total of $140.00. So for a total $156.69 I have a back up electrical system. I also built a charger for the system consisting of a old tiller motor, a belt, a GM alternator and a old 2x8, also a couple a angle iron pieces from a old bed frame. We have the lights that are twisted bulbs that use 15 watts of power. We live in the north so ice storms and blizzards do take a toll on electric lines. The neighbors have shivered in the cold as we sat and watched tv. True its not true green power but I would rather be prepared than to cuss the dark. This is the cheapest system I could come up with so if someone can improve on it let me know. The batteries will be used in a boat come spring. Also going to try and make a wind generator come spring.


jf    Posted 01-10-2004 at 13:44:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
thats super. Try running a washer, dryer, oven, fan forced heat pump and electric water heater all at once. In ky 6.5 a kwh. Thats where i am staying. Good luck


Digger4819    Posted 01-10-2004 at 17:02:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Jr, ya trying to run that stuff when the powers down, it don,t work.


jf    Posted 01-10-2004 at 17:43:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
more power to ya


Richard Easton    Posted 01-10-2004 at 14:34:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have no idea what I pay, but I would like to know about "alternative" systems.
I have a couple generators that I use when power goes off and have a stream with good fast current flowing in it. Does anyone know of a way to make a paddle wheel or something that could run one of the generators? Or where I could get this type of info??


Pelton turbine    Posted 01-10-2004 at 15:25:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
do a web search --- use the word Pelton. Good little turbines. Lots of info, but some exspensive stuff. Mike D.


Lazy Al    Posted 01-10-2004 at 12:48:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
I like your set up Digger I don't have the inverter and battey set up yet but I'm going to get set up like that . WE have two meters one for house power and one for electric heat . The house power costs 9 cents and the heat cost 5 cents but they vary now and then . Still pretty cheap for the work you get out of electricy .
We burn wood in a furnace and I'm heating my water with that too . Have a wood cook stove in the kitchen and a working wind mill . So other than having no lights and having to rely on kerosene lamps and of course no computer we can out last an outage if it didn't last to long. I'd probably have to start talking to the wife huh?
There's a picture of my furnace heating water in the photo gallery some place not to far back.

I was thinking of getting an inverter and battery set up and take a few circuts off that for lights and and a receptacle or two and use it all the time having a battery charger charging the batteries . Then when the power went off I would have like a UPS system and if the batteries went down charge them with a generator . [ UPS ( uninteruptable power supply ) ]
I ran extra wires to the barn so I could have lights out there at least with if the power went out .
Al
Al


Mike D. w/question    Posted 01-10-2004 at 12:43:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
What kind of t.v. do you use with a 400 watt inverter?

Our deep cycle batteries run 12 volt automobile back-up bulbs for light (very bright) but I had no idea that an invertor that small will power a television set. Holy Cow, I thought those things drew way more juice than that. What t.v. set do you use?


Willy-N LOTS    Posted 01-10-2004 at 16:29:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
A inverter that will make 400 watts/3.3 amps 120 volts will consume 4,000 watts at 12 volts 33.3 amp draw to make that amperage. Takes 10 times the power at 12 volts to convert to 120 volts. Mark H.


Hey Digger!    Posted 01-10-2004 at 15:28:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Still want to know the specifics of your t.v! Mike D.


digger4819    Posted 01-10-2004 at 16:56:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mike we have a little portable that can run on the system about 9 hrs between charges. It is a combination 12 volt and ac. We run it on the ac.

If we want to watch the big tv, a 38 incher then I have to start the charger because the batteries would only last a hour.

It will also run my puter, gateway with a 17 inch moniter as long as the generator is running.

It is a system to get ya by. Will not run a fridge or a freezer. Looked at one but the cost is $299 with a 1500 watt inverter but the run time isn't that great.


thanks-    Posted 01-10-2004 at 17:30:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
sure sounds like you put a good system together to get you through a storm- Mike D.


Dave Munson    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:56:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
7.6 cents per kilowatt (winter rates). Mid Illinois on net.


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-10-2004 at 11:10:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The true cost of electric is about 1 1/2 cents per jigawatt. the rest is all taxes! LOL! I like your idea,need one myself. I burn wood to heat, probably ends up costing the same or more by the time you figure saws, chains, gas, damage to house (smoke,ashes, etc.), cost of woodburner,wear and tear on my bod, higher insurance because of owning a wood burner, etc.,etc. Probably costs more in the long run!! But I like spreadin' my $$ around, I just hate givin' it to the power companies! I recently just built myself a house and by the time I figure all the expense of chimneys, fireplaces, woodstoves alone, it will take me 20 years to break even. Your setup sounds cheap and worthwhile, I like it.


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