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Propane vs. natural gas
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jt    Posted 01-10-2004 at 18:08:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
We will have the opportunity this spring to convert from propane to natural gas heat. Any opinions here on which is better? Cheaper? It would be nice to get rid of the 500 gallon propane tank. But it will cost, I'm guessing, about $500 to have a gas line run from the house to the street. We believe the furnace can be converted relatively easily. We had natural gas all our lives and last year (different house) it cost (budget billing) $98 every month. We kept the heat there about 68 degrees. We moved here about 2 months ago. It costs $600 to fill the tank. We're paying close to $200 a month to keep the house at a shivery 62 degrees. BUT in the summer months, there will be ZERO costs for propane, so in the long run it could actually cost quite a bit less. Comparisons are difficult because there we also had a gas stove and water heater. Here those are electric. The electric bill here is only about $5 a month higher than it was there. Has anybody here switched from one to the other while living in the same house so the two can be compared fairly? Thanks!


Winergy Canada Inc.    Posted 08-23-2004 at 17:43:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You can directly compare using EnergyWiz, a complete do it yourself home energy audit system.
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Cosmo    Posted 01-11-2004 at 05:56:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
In my small town it costs the customer nothing to have gas run from the street to the meter. The customer is only resposnsible for piping from the meter outlet. Change over is easy. Only the orifices in appliances need changing. Minimal work.


Hal/WA    Posted 01-11-2004 at 01:17:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think that if you investigate the cost of a given amount of heat (BTU's or whatever) comparing propane and natural gas, you will find that natural gas is much cheaper heat.

I have natural gas in the house I built a few years ago. The year before I built, the gas company ran a large main down our road and natural gas became available. We burned wood in our old house.

The first year the natural gas was really cheap and never went higher than $80. We have a gas furnace, gas dryer and gas water heater and at that time had 3 teenagers in the house. The kids are gone now and the rates have more than doubled, but we seldom have a bill that is over $100. My electrical bill is also lots lower than it was in the old house, at least in the winter. Air conditioning runs it up in the summer.

Unless your area is a lot different than mine, I sure would go with natural gas over propane if I had the choice. Much cheaper heat and you never have to do almost anything with it.


marlowe    Posted 01-10-2004 at 18:55:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
LP and lock your price in and own your tank i'm locked in at $.84 a gal you can't do that with nat.gas


Ron,Ar    Posted 01-10-2004 at 19:03:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Man I can't believe what I am hearing here. These local LP guys here have divided up the state into operating areas and no one will cross over into the others area. I tried to get the state representative to look into it but he was to big a buddy with the LP guy. That one reason I go with natural gas. The local LP guy gouges us real bad here. Our natural gas company is a multistate conglomerate and everybody pays pretty much the same in a three state area. LP is running 1.80 a gal your tank or theirs.


marlowe    Posted 01-10-2004 at 20:51:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
what the H is the old pres. in charge of your LPG???


Ron,ar    Posted 01-10-2004 at 18:44:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here it is far more desirable to have natural gas.Propane is far more volitale in price and availibility. Natural gas usually falls under the state utility commission. propane prices here are set by the local guy and not under any agency. I really think that natural gas is the better choice by far. I've had both. Natural gas usually burns better and ya never run out. I read Kellys post below and I cannot imagine her situation being right but different areas may have different supply and delivery problems.


KellyGa    Posted 01-10-2004 at 18:16:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I hate paying the natural gas people here. They gouge you to death in the winter, to the point some people can't pay, so they freeze. Old folks that are on a fixed income and such. Makes me so mad. I don't cut that darn thing on until it gets unbearable. I don't pay them a penny more than I have to. We were looking at a house that was all electric, now that sounded nice. There used to be only one supplier of natural gas, then they made it where everybody could get in on the game, so now everybody has these "competitive prices" that are higher than we EVER paid before. Makes me sick to pay em. Okay I am done ranting and raving, I will be quiet now. OOh, my father in law is on propane, he loves it. Used to be on Natural gas at his old house.


ret    Posted 01-10-2004 at 19:19:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
had my home built in fall of 99. Propane use for about 1400 sf in the winter is 2.6 gal. a day.
That is just for heating purposes. Also, thermostat is set at 73. I asked them about locking in a price per gal. but they said they didn't do it. None of them here in this area do. N.Va.
REt


cowlady    Posted 01-10-2004 at 20:54:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
I HATE PROPANE. There, I said it. I feel better now. whooo.

seriously though, even if you don't get a bill in the summer the winter costs EAT YOU ALIVE! It is currently $1.25/gal here plus $144. per year for them to come check on it every month. A couple of years ago it was over $2. You are held at their mercy! AND, the fools almost blew us up, CARBON MONOXIDED us, and ruined a BRAND NEW FURNACE because they didn't change the Natural Gas to LP orifices properly on the furnace, fireplace or water heater! There's your permit, and inspection process for ya. (but that's another story ;^)


cowlady    Posted 01-10-2004 at 20:59:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
one other thing while I'm on a rant...We ran empty one Christmas Eve. They didn't want to come out. Their solution? "Don't you have a bar-b-que grill you can bring in 'till we can get there?" Geez Louise.



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