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Water Help, Version Two.
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Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-20-2001 at 07:12:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Lately along with the rust, I have been loosing pressure slowly. My brother-in-law said to give the valve a shot of air. Well I did this. I did an extremely rookie mistake, and kept watching the pressure gauge on the bottom, which never left 30 psi. Finally my idiot light in my brain went on, and I grabbed my tire pressure guage, and read 70psi, on top. Anyway, I had great pressure. The sticker said max op pressure is 90, so I figured I was fine. But I did decide to relieve it to 50psi, since the gauge on the bottom said 32psi. The switch started freaking out. I relieved the pressure to 35, and the switch works, and the pump comes on fine. But the valve immediately under the tank, I hooked up a hose, and got tons of water I emptied into the crock. But I have no pressure at the faucets. I have pressure at the faucets for about a second, then nothin. I went thru the archives, and seen the water-logged scenario. I printed the pages, should this repressurize my faucets, by draining the thing? Thanks in advance.

Jeff    Posted 11-25-2001 at 03:12:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I had a simmular thing happen ,very low water flow and although the preasure was at 35# IT WAS ONLY A SMALL MAS OF preasure it would kick the pump on every 2 or 3 seconds. It turned out the bladder in the preasure tank had a hole in it and was full of water. the top of the tank was holding the air preasure.the tank was only 1 1/2 years old- - new tank ad solved the problem

Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-21-2001 at 04:12:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well, here's what happened. I opened the nearest faucet, and pressure for 2 seconds. So I figured the clog must be before this. I shut off pressure, and about four inches before the Tee, I cut the pipe. I wanted to see if I had pressure to this point. This is the good part. I told my wife to hold a bucket above her head, in the line. She agreed after I assured her that her suspicions are wrong, and she was perfectly safe from getting wet. I turned the water on, and started getting water. Then I gave the nozzle a good two turns open. As I looked up, I noticed a very strong stream of 33 degree water pouring on her head, and the bucket over flowing. I don't think I need to tell anyone the look on her face. What made it worse was the dog was standing right next to her, he started to lick her and the half ladder she was standing on. I guess he was thirsty.

I figured the system must be water logged, so I said I was headed into town to pick up a new pvc pipe, and coupling. I NICELY ASKED when I was gone if she could continue to let the air out of the air nozzle on top. she said she was gonna dry up, start dinner, and would go release the air. I said fine, I really do not see you getting wet again.

When I get home I received the second look of the day. She informed me when she was letting the air out, as it was getting low, water started to squirt out and all over her. I told her it's crazy, that should of never happened. She then showed me the pages from this forum of how to leave a valve closest to the pressure tank open and how I must of overlooked this. I told her I could handle the rest, and why not take the rest of the evening off. Anyway, I tied up the piping, pressurized the system to 40 psi, tightened up the nut on the long screw in the switch, and opened the valve. Works great, and pressure is better than when new last year. Now back to rust issues tonight.

I think flowers are in order tonight.

Franz    Posted 11-21-2001 at 10:25:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOTSA flowers, and plenty of soothing salve, like you doin dishes for a month, and takin her out to dinner, and you can figure on gettin underwear for Christmas too.

Lew    Posted 11-20-2001 at 20:07:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The pressure (when the pump is off) is created by the air compressed in the tank. The flow is produced by the presence of adequate water. If you have pressure (air) but no flow (water), then either there is no water to flow or something is preventing the water from entering the system. If the tank is full of air then there is little water available to flow but enough air to hold the pressure and prevent the pump from coming on. Since there is a bladder in the tank, the air does not enter the pipes, just the small amount of water that the air can push. It is the reverse of water-logged. If you remove most of the air from the tank, then the pump should cycle every time you open a tap and water should flow. If it does not flow with the pump running, then there is an obstruction (maybe your rust) somewhere in the system. Hope this helps. Lew

Nathan(GA)    Posted 11-20-2001 at 19:54:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you have pressure at the bottom of the tank, then I'm with the others, something is restricting the flow.

I just installed a convertable jet pump on a 65 foot well just for washing my 2 vehicles. The instructions said to have the bladder 2 lbs less than the cuton pressure, which is 20 lbs.

If feasible, you could hook a hose to the bottom of the tank and to a faucet on the outside the house to backflush the lines. Be sure the faucet is open and the line disconnected at the tank.

Franz    Posted 11-20-2001 at 13:51:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Couple things, Are you loosing pressure, and still have good flo, or are you totally loosing water at the faucets?
First possibility, too much air in the tank, the pressure in the bladder in the tank is supposed to be no more than 5# above cutout pressure on the switch. Too much air in the bladder will make it fill the tank and keep water from accumulating in the tank.
Second possibility, given all your rust, the bottom fitting on the tank might have crapped up.
It may be necessary to put a strainer between the pump and the tank if you're getting crud in the tank.
Another possibility, if you have an above ground deep well pump, the diverter valve for the jet line may have screwed up, sending most of the water back to the jet instead of into the tank.

Les...fortunate    Posted 11-20-2001 at 11:40:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You must have something obstructing the flow between the tank and the faucet. How old are the pipes? What are they made of? If both hot and cold act the same in every location, it's (the obstruction) probably not too far outside the tank in the direction of flow.

Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-20-2001 at 11:48:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
All PVC, one year old house.

Les    Posted 11-20-2001 at 12:21:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
You'll have pressure but not flow if something is obstructing or restricting it. Is there possibly a valve that isn't fully open?

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