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Iraq and the draft
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steve19438    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:19:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
if the united states still drafted soldiers does anyone think we would be in iraq? with a volunteer armed forces and a comparatively small numbers of GI's as casualties this country seems to be accepting the war. WHY?


Mark    Posted 01-14-2004 at 11:50:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know why all the liberls are on during the Day. Becase there a bunch of lazy welfare recieving Saddam loving bafoons that dont work.

You can find a job now, It might not be one you like but give me a brake


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 09:49:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually there will not any need for the draft. Everyone will have to join the military in order to have a job, it's all that will be left. Furthermore, it's the only way that you will get to go to college, you won't be able to afford it anyway. Hmmmmmmm? Let's look at the Big Picture? Let's look at the scam of things! Maybe all these immagrants that everyone keeps yappin' about should do there time their first years here?


ALIAS    Posted 01-14-2004 at 08:55:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
It ain't a question of accepting the war. I believe it's more in the nature of doing what's right. But, I do think the draft should be reinstated. Reason being that it would; 1) give those uninspired college students something to bi1ch about and; 2) we could unload a lot of our disloyals onto Canadian Soil, and; 3) It would give the politacos enough bi1ch fodder to chew on for at least the next 10 years. God save GWB from the democrats. peace and love gfp


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 09:43:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's obvious that you don't have any kids that are or will be of the "draft" age. If you do then you don't care a whole lot about them. There is not one person in this forum that really knows what the Iraqi situation is all about, and I'll be d@mned if my kids are going to get killed or kill others just because good ole faithful never told a lie GW says so. If they "foriegners" step foot on American soil, I'll be the first one there. You, nor no one else knows the truth about Iraq. We do know this.....USA created the situation at hand. GW is corrupt as any of them. If GW feels so strong about, then I'll send my kids right after he sends his. Get Real people.


Fawteen - Oh, and BTW    Posted 01-14-2004 at 10:03:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
My son was an Airborne Ranger for 10 years. Got out when a series of training injuries reduced his choices to a desk job or a discharge.

He's not gonna send ya a bill either...


steve19438    Posted 01-14-2004 at 10:49:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
it's called taxes!!! (five year army and a vietnam veteran)


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 09:57:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
...We do know this.....USA created the situation at hand...I'll be d@mned if my kids are going to get killed or kill others just because good ole faithful never told a lie GW says so...

Saddam had nothing to do with it, right?

You ought to thank your lucky stars not everyone thinks like you do, or you'd be speaking German, Japanese or Russian right now.

But hey, it's a free country, and I spent 22 years of my life defending your right to say whatever you want, so go right ahead.

No charge.




Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 13:46:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeh, Yeh, I hear it everyday, you spent twenty two years at your choice, the topic at hand here was the draft. I yet today protect your freedom to live, but yet I do not think as myself as a hero as obviously you think that you are. I chose my career as my choice, I was not drafted, in other words forced to do it. Were you drafted for 22 years?? I think not. But yet you think of yourself as better than I whom did not choice to work for the government (military). I think that it is a great what our military does. It is also considered "great" to do what I do for US citizens, but I do not expect to be praised as to which you do. Big difference between "joining" and the "draft". You may not have a problem with putting the lives of your children (If you don't have any then there is no need for me too even converse with you), in the hands of a politician just because he says so with no proof whatsoever, doesn't mean that I am. So you are saying that you know everything about this issue, all the details, etc. etc.??? If you do then I want to know what TV, newspaper, radio station, website. that your wacthing. Please let me know. You will believe anything you read or are told, must come from being in the military? Bush could say that Hitler was behind it all, Hitler had planned this years ago and it is now just stating to materialize..............and you'd believe him enough to have your kids kill or be killed. I'm glad that you're not my father.


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 16:41:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
I "joined" because it gave me a choice. If I waited to be drafted, (which was inevitable) I'd be at their mercy. One can discharge one's duty to their country without being stupid about it. And before you go off on another rant, yes, I DO believe everyone has a duty to their country. Admittedly, military service is not the only way to meet that moral obligation.

I stayed because for the most part I liked what I was doing.

I'm not quite sure why you think I have a hero complex, I didn't do anything even remotely heroic. The perception of your attitude that I got from your post was Not ME. Not MY children. My observation, based on that perception, was that this country would be in deep trouble if EVERYONE had that attitude.

And like it or not, you DO owe your freedom of speech to the folks that defended this country and it's Freedoms in the past and continue to do so today.

Oh, and BTW, with your attitude, I'm probably as glad that you're not my son as you are that I'm not your father.

Have a nice life.


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 19:11:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL!! Just as I thought.
I do believe that people like you are why people like us came to the "New World", to get away from the you do as your told, don't ask any questions, you believe what I say, take my word for it Kings and Queens of europe.


Salmoneye    Posted 01-14-2004 at 14:22:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
"I think not. But yet you think of yourself as better than I whom did not choice to work for the government (military). I think that it is a great what our military does. It is also considered "great" to do what I do for US citizens, but I do not expect to be praised as to which you do. Big difference between "joining" and the "draft"."

What exactly is it that you think you do for me again?...Why do you think you have no choice?...Why are you so bitter?...

And why do your late afternoon/early evening posts get so freakin rambling and incoherent?

I do really love the names of your ISP's servers though...Someone has a sense of humour at least...

NameServer: ITCHY.MINDSPRING.NET
NameServer: SCRATCHY.MINDSPRING.NET




UScitizen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 11:44:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I guess you did not know that the CIA helped to put Sadam into power ?


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 16:57:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
And???

The CIA did something incredibly stupid. That's not exactly a news flash...


~Lenore    Posted 01-14-2004 at 20:20:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
According to my news sources the CIA still is.


Jim in Minn    Posted 01-14-2004 at 10:17:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the 22 years. We all appreciate it!


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 10:30:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
You're entirely welcome, Sir.

Spare a thought now and then for them that's in the trenches now, in whatever capacity.


kraig WY    Posted 01-14-2004 at 08:16:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was a poor kid, I couldn't afford a bus ticket to Canada so I had to join the army to avoid the draft. They were kind enough to pay my way to Vietnam so the draft couldn't get me.


Red Dave - Why????    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:54:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why is this board infested with trolls lately?


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:57:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's too cold under the bridge, so they come in to warm up by the computer...


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:26:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Whatthehell has the draft got to do with anything? That would have no effect whatsoever on the situation.

If we had mandatory universal military service, a lot of kids would get a better start in life. Amazing what a little enforced and accelerated 'growing up' can do for a 20 year old that still lives with Mom and Dad.

Fawteen, Who Volunteered Before the Draft got Him.


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 13:55:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's my Super Hero, with tunnel vision!!

May I kiss your stinking feet?


Fawteen - MERCY!    Posted 01-14-2004 at 16:44:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm devastated. Your powers of logic and ability to refute another's position with facts and data have overwhelmed me.

I bow to your superior intellect.



Salmoneye    Posted 01-14-2004 at 14:32:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Deep breaths...Warm, fuzzy thoughts...

Now listen closely...I will whisper your mantra...It is unique and belongs to only you...You must repeat it over and over till it becomes you and you become it...

Owa...Tajer...Kiam....Owa...Tajer...Kiam...

Say this while you think of your quiet, happy-place...

Nirvana will come to you, My Friend...


~Lenore    Posted 01-14-2004 at 07:48:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mandatory 2 year miltary service;
I think would be great for our kids and our country.
Isreal does it.


Jim in Minn    Posted 01-14-2004 at 08:04:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Agree, but Israel is different. They are fighting for their lives. Here there is no outside pressure not to live the good life that can spoil a youngster. Patriotism in this country is spawned mostly by family values, not by national leadership. After 9/11 we witnessed a resurgence in patriotism. This was the only time in a decade that we mirrored an Israeli national ferver. Sad, but apparently true.


Jim in Minn    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:52:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Very interesting. I did the same in my Junior year of college. Figured I had 3 choices: Canada, finish school get drafted or enlist for 3 years and back to school under the G.I bill. I enlisted and was very lucky. Military discipline should be the 13 & 14th years of a high school education.


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:55:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
...Military discipline should be the 13 & 14th years of a high school education...

My point exactly. I enlisted in the Navy. Figured if I was gonna wind up in Viet Nam, at least I'd have some steel between me and them and a dry place to sleep.

As it turns out, the closest I got was Japan and the Phillipines.


Jjim in Minn.    Posted 01-14-2004 at 07:26:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yup, one of the best decisions in my life. Can you believe I actually volunteered for Vietnam while serving in the canal zone? The powers that then be, must have figured they had enough trouble over there. I never got a response. Thank God!


Salmoneye    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:29:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was wondering too...

Yet another attempt to say that we are all sheep in the eyes of the left?

Salmoneye,


Fawteen - and BTW    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:44:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
You tryin' ta give sheep a bad name?


Sid    Posted 01-14-2004 at 07:22:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Speaking of sheep's reputation. Are all sheep,liars or not?


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 07:44:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh yeah. Lie like rugs...

":^)


Fawteen    Posted 01-14-2004 at 06:30:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hard to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent...


Rowdy Yates    Posted 01-14-2004 at 13:52:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
My exact thoughts..........but I would have added....self centered, brain washed, childless opponent.


Fawteen - Ouch again    Posted 01-14-2004 at 16:48:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Self centered? Yup.

Brain washed? Hmmmmmm. Hadn't considered that possiblity. What sort of tin foil do YOU use to avoid that fate?

Childless? Ah, nope. Three kids. 7 Grandkids. Great grandkid on the way. Not that that proves anything, particularly.


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